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Debate Score:21
Arguments:51
Total Votes:23
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Should I go all the way, vegan?

I am an animal rights supporter, and plan on giving up meat and dairy, for spiritual and moral reasons, but I am wondering if i should just say "fuck it" and be a vegan. Plan answer my question, and give reasons, and evidence. I believe animals have the right to their bodies.

Yes.

Side Score: 14
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No.

Side Score: 7

Sure. If you're prepared to make the commitment then why not? I agree with you about an animal's right to life, but unfortunately I'm a bit of a hypocrite about it because I do eat meat. I grew up eating it and although I don't like the idea of animals suffering, I'm not passionate enough about it to take action. But if you are then more power to you.

Side: Yes.

I judge not lest I be judged. I am still a meat eater, but everytime I eat meat, I have a broken heart, and can no longer participate. I believe animals are spirits, that occupy bodies, and have the right, to their bodies, and to live. i have also been abused, so why should I abuse?

Side: Yes.
Nommunist(37) Clarified
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I believe animals are spirits, that occupy bodies, and have the right, to their bodies

According to most Christians animals seem to be objects that aren't even sentient. Most Christians would take offence at you thinking animals have souls.

Side: Yes.
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If you want animals to be treated well, then the people producing meat won't listen to you, because you're not their costumer. Why should they listen to somebody not buying the product anyways?

If costumers demand better products, STOP buying stuff the massproduced stuff in tiny cages and start buying the organic local meat, then you've made an actual difference.

Side: No.
Nommunist(37) Disputed
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If you want animals to be treated well, then the people producing meat won't listen to you, because you're not their costumer. Why should they listen to somebody not buying the product anyways?

In my honest opinion factory farms should be forced by the state to gradually and systematically be phased out and replaced with more sustainable and humane practices.

Side: Yes.
shoutoutloud(4302) Clarified Banned
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That would be a good idea, but there are some things that make such a legislation difficult.

First of all when one state, let's say as an example the UK, when they make a legislation demanding certain standards of production, one of two things happen.

1. The international producers that import goods to the UK meet the standards, by changing their ways of production.

2. The international producers simply stop selling their production to the UK.

Most likely, when it comes to a small country standing alone, the latter will happen. So either a country has to gain some allies, like maybe the EU, to put a greater force on international producers of meat - OR the UK just has to suffer economically. Which is usually not a popular decision to make as a politician.

The easiest way would be to change the market from the buttom up - because the producers will change their ways of production if their product doesn't sell. That's why I think veganism and vegetarianism is a terrible idea. Instead of boycutting meat, why not boycut the producers that make the industry such a horrible place for animals?

If more people bought local and more organic products, more producers would change their methods to meet that demand.

Side: Yes.

I agree. i actually think the meat and dairy industries, should be illegal.

Side: Yes.
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I do not believe, in killing animals, or forcing them, to lactate, and killing, their babies. That is essentially a dick move, and what really is, happening.

Side: Yes.
shoutoutloud(4302) Clarified Banned
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Yes. It happens all around us in nature. Humans aren't the only one's feeding on animals, you know? :)

Side: Yes.
JustIgnoreMe(4290) Clarified
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