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Yes, he meant it! No, He was kidding!
Debate Score:34
Arguments:23
Total Votes:35
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Should Justin Carter be jailed for his sarcastic remarks on Facebook?

(CNN) -- It was a sarcastic Facebook comment during an argument about a video game. And, according to the father of 19-year-old Justin Carter, it was enough to land his son behind bars for months, facing the possibility of years in prison.

Carter, who is currently on suicide watch in Comal County Jail near San Antonio, Texas, has been locked up since February. He faces a charge of making terroristic threats, a felony that could theoretically bring a sentence of up to eight years.

Read the rest of the story here: http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/02/tech/social-media/facebook-threat-carter/index.html?hpt=ju_c2

Yes, he meant it!

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No, He was kidding!

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3 points

Sure, he should be arrested for threatening a school. BUT, now that they have determined that he isn't actually threatening a school, it is time to let him go.

Side: Yes, he meant it!

While 8 years would be excessive, he should face some consequnces for what he did. I would say give him some community service time.

He may have just been kidding, but look back at all those other school shooters who made similar threats. Afterwards people were constantly asking "why did no one see this coming and do something to prevent it." Well it looks like people have been taking note and are no longer turning a blind eye to such threats, even when they are meant as humor. In "The Gift of Fear", a book about accessing dangerous situations, it lists violant humor as a larger indicator to a dangerious person as opposed to famboient threats. It is the more subtle warning we need to take note of.

Side: Yes, he meant it!

WHAT! More evidence of the development of the police state.--------------

Side: No, He was kidding!
1 point

I am starting to agree with you. .

Side: No, He was kidding!
3 points

This makes me want to blow up a school .

Side: No, He was kidding!

I can see why this brings up such anger. Some things on the internet are far worse than what he said. Yet they pick him. Personally I deem this as unfair.

Side: No, He was kidding!
Sitara(11080) Clarified
1 point

I know that you are being sarcastic, but do not fuck around with that. Many regimes will arrest you.

Side: Yes, he meant it!

Regimes? Like muslim regimes ?

Side: No, He was kidding!
2 points

Obviously the woman who reported him doesn't go online too often, because the internet is full of comments far worse than what he said. His joke wasn't funny and it was in bad taste, but that's all it was; a joke. Let the kid go home. I'm sure he's learned his lesson.

Side: No, He was kidding!
2 points

And so our right to say what we want finally dies ...

Side: No, He was kidding!
2 points

Did you make that Tee for him Andy?

Side: No, He was kidding!
1 point

Seriously, I want to get that shirt.

Here's a link

Side: No, He was kidding!

I don't think this is fair. If this is not an expression of freedom of speech, what is?

Edit: If they have no proof, then I don't see what he did as any worse than internet trolls, and ragers who boast their achievements, and the likelihood that they could attack you. Proof of the weapons, not of the comment. That's just a boast, if no proof exists.

Side: No, He was kidding!

I agree with guitar guy. There needs to be protests against this! This is nuts! So, if someone refers to killing someone in a video game on face book. I mean, like in Call of Duty, should they be arrested?

Side: No, He was kidding!

What if a threat is made, no one takes it into consideration, and the threat is done? I am glad the officers took action. Release the kid.

Side: No, He was kidding!
1 point

I can understand if someone posted that with punctuation that implied they were serious, but he pointed out he was joking; even if it was a bad one. If this comment was really enough for Police to focus on this young man then, they could keep an eye on him. But, it sounds like they are exaggerating this way out of proportion; like so much else.

Also, there could be more to this story that is not known. However, I do not think what he said should be enough to charge him with such a crime; that being said, maybe people should check into those laws. The 'government' definition of terrorism is pretty broad and that is not the only language politicians twist around.

This is also, not the first time they have arrested someone for posting crap online; for example, the vet in Virginia who was taken into custody and placed in a mental institution without a court order. He had posted lyrics to a song to express his frustrations toward the 'government' on facebook. Makes me think that having a facebook account is quite risky.

Side: No, He was kidding!
1 point

I havee said shit like that. Lecture him and leave him be. .

Side: No, He was kidding!
1 point

No! Some people need to learn to take a joke! I mean he was joking why would you call the authorities if he was joking?!

Side: No, He was kidding!
1 point

No, it was a joke. A bad one at that, but a joke. Release him and let him be. Stupid justice system needs to take a chill pill. Common sense has died it seems.

Side: No, He was kidding!

Fuck first Amendment rights

The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

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Side: No, He was kidding!
1 point

No, that's ridiculous. It was an insensitive comment, and I would have given him shit for it, but not jail. I understand for the need for security, but there is also a need for common sense when investigating such things.

Side: No, He was kidding!
1 point

Ive read up on this, and I can honestly say that America had just plain given up. They now just don't even care what other countries think of them anymore. They just jail anyone they feel like because it's funny. That's the impression I'm getting here.

Side: No, He was kidding!

He was kidding, that is the kind of stuff I often hear when I play various multiplayer online games. He most likely was trying to show his friends his viciousness in the violent game. If any punishment he should be kicked of the site. 8 years in prison is far to extream.

Side: No, He was kidding!