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Should Marijuana be legal?
Lots of people disagree with the whole 'medical marijuana' thing. So what is your opinion on it? Do you feel that it should definitely be legal, or do you feel that marijuana should be illegal? Please explain.
You should enlighten the forum onto which other debates are more original than others.
This isn't fucking ancient times when the first questions were asked by our species.
This 2013 where every single debate has been debated before. And so, unless you've got something to pull out of your ass that is OH SO ORIGINAL, perhaps these sort of sarcastic remarks do more harm than good. Not to me, to others. Your remark just frustrated me a tiny bit... about {}, that much.
I think either both marijuana and alcohol should be illegalized or neither of them should be. At least then we are being consistent, marijuana is generally less addictive than alcohol and less consequental. The fact that you can only get it through the blackmarket is really what makes it a gateway drug, exposing you to the access and presence of other drugs. Legalizing weed will also make it easy to regulate and can be made for healthier use. It will also probably bankrupt the business of spice which is a LOT less healthier than marijuana. We can also tax it putting another small dent into our current debt.
All Marijuana needs is regulation and it would be fine. Economic benefits would be astronomical. Plus eliminating the criminalization of using or possessing Mary would decrease the prison populations by what maybe 25%??
The fact is, Marijuana is more of a "gateway drug" than a harmful, dangerous drug. Marijuana leads you to take more serious (and potentially dangerous) drugs. It has been known for a long time that marijuana has the ability to cure diseases (the medicine that Franklin Roosevelt took contained marijuana, albeit in small quantity). As long as people can restrict themselves to only taking marijuana or less serious drugs, marijuana should be legal.
based solely on the fact that Alchohol, which has even been proven to cause more death and injury, is legal.
I won't get into the specifics, because sure weed has it's downsides, and technicaly it counts as a drug, whic like any drug can be abused.
I also know of no one who has ever been addicted to marijuana, i often have friends do it for long periods of time, then quit on a moment's notice for a job that may require them to take a piss test.
Marijuana is perfectly legal for recreational use in my city. Seattle is a great example for you. We have legalized marijuana and the sky is not falling.
Here, where marijuana is totally legal, crime rates are falling and we are looking forward to a big boost in state revenue when we get our weed stores up and running. Here the issue is settled, we are in favor of personal liberties. No more denial and propaganda about marijuana. The only issue Washingtonians are talking about is whether it should be legal to allow employment drug tests for marijuana or not.
I think in 2013 people are finally growing up and being adults about marijuana, at least some of us.
Have you noticed that the government is unable to keep drugs out of prisons? What makes you think making the world a prison will keep this stuff out of people's hands?
MIRJUANA IS A SAFE DRUG YOU HAVE TOO SMOKE OVER LIKE 100,000 JOINTS A DAY TO DIE...and if it was legal think about how many people would acutally go out and buy it...we'd probably lose a lot of our debt in this country....
Yes, Marijuana is harmful.Yes it's not good for you.But neither is alcohol,or cigarettes.It should be a personal choice to smoke Marijuana,Just like alcohol or cigarettes are.
Yes, Marijuana is harmful.Yes it's not good for you.But neither is alcohol,or cigarettes.It should be a personal choice to smoke Marijuana,Just like alcohol or cigarettes are.
It is harmful to a extent, as far as lung (as well as other) problems can arise.
It's like "the lesser of two evils", except Mary Jane is NOT evil and is actually quite amazing.
Mary Jane is as good for a person as caffeine is, if not more good for you than caffeine. People drink coffee, drink sodas, chocolate all of the time. People smoke mary jane all of the time.
Ethanol is bad for you. This makes people unhealthy (mentally and psychically) and also kills people. How does Mary Jane make people unhealthy? Oh maybe some temporary memory loss and some diluted brain function? OooohOOOh..
It's still bad for you. Why don't these people who do marijuana grow up and realize their habit not only hurts them, it hurts others. For one, the national medical bill goes up, furthermore they are supporting drug dealers, these drug dealers are a threat to our peaceful way of life. Now you may say ohh kozlov if you legalize marijuana than you put the dealers out of business. However, this is simply not true. Look at the Netherlands, their Marijuana dealers went into harder drugs.
2. (only harmful part is the smoke due to the properties of smoke) You support socialized medicine, this is your fault, you are the one who decided it would be a good idea to tie your health care to every other person's. If you didn't then it would effect anyone.
furthermore they are supporting drug dealers, these drug dealers are a threat to our peaceful way of life.
Thats because its ILLEGAL. When you made marijuana illegal the profits stopped going to companies that just sold weed and employed workers and started going to crime syndicates. That is drug prohibition's fault.
Now you may say ohh kozlov if you legalize marijuana than you put the dealers out of business. However, this is simply not true. Look at the Netherlands, their Marijuana dealers went into harder drugs.
Yeah, it didn't put the dealers out of business because there were other illegal drugs to sell. That is drug prohibition's fault.
Good heavens! How can you ignore the facts. To say Pot is not harmful is one thing, to say it is GOOD for you is quite another. I will ask you one simple question: Are human lungs designed to inhale smoke? NO! Massive irrefutable proof listed below:
Hmm... Smoke does not belong in lungs. This makes people unhealthy.
Ugh, smoke is in our air nowadays.. air pollution, but we cant do anything about it. Even if we dont want to, there are other sources of pollution in our world like factories, fire smoke.. which leads to an abundant amount of smoke which we inhale every single day.
'Virtually' meaning almost but not entirely. Also you can even get high off of air, too much breathing can cause lightheadness which resemble the effects of marijuana to a much less extent, and too little air does the same thing. As for the prolonged effects of marijuana, I read them, they include but are not limited to forgetfulness, hunger, impaired thinking ability permanently, but as said before alcohol can do some of the same things to your brain, and that's perfectly legal.
Just to throw in another fact I just read that chocolate is more likely to have you addicted to it than weed, and chocolate, can also mess with your body negatively.
I highly recommend that you read this article. After reading you may think once pot is legalized, you could go back to the 60's stuff, but look at cigarettes, they still sell Camel.
I'm not choosing legality because I'm a smoker or because I have a taste of nostalgia, I'm choosing it for the fairness of government and also because the negative effects aren't bad enough to justify imprisonment over it's casual use.
The price of keeping prisoners in jail for pot will most likely be entirely reversed if the government begins to profit off of it.
I'm not saying that anyone caught with a bit of weed should be chucked in the slammer. They should be fined or rehabilitated. It is just the producers and dealers that should be imprisoned.
If marijuana is legal, then the people who sell it wouldn't be doing any harm, nor the people who grow it.
As i said, I'm for legaliztion not only because it'll spare the prisons some room for real criminals but because it doesn't really cause enough problems to actualy constitute a threat, but I did see waht you said about how it would just open the gate for more dangerous drug dealers to get in, and on that point i agree with you.
I'll put it simply: You don't get high because its smoke, you get high because of the chemicals in the Marijuana. If you smoke it, vaporize it, eat it, bake it and snort it you still get high
As for the effects being less in non-smoke form that's also false, when marijuana is baked properly the effects is generally stronger and lasts longer.
Marijuana is bad for you. Smoke does not belong in lungs.
The second part of this statement I actually agree with. Unfortunately, you are out of touch with what is going on out there.
There are several ways to use marijuana without smoking it. I'm sure you already know of one or two. Making weed brownies is a good example. That is one way to use marijuana without smoking it.
Another way is vaporization. Many marijuana users do not like to smoke marijuana. We smoke something called BHO which is basically a marijuana extract. If you take this oil and super heat it (much hotter than fire), you will get a water vapor that is loaded with THC. This process requires special equipment but it gets you super high without any of the carcinogenic tar involved with smoke.
Yes, I do realize that there are different ways to do Marijuana without smoking it. And yes, it is better for you. However, there are still negative effects and they tend to last a bit longer. At least you won't have too much lung damage.
There are negative effects from people eating fast food and driving cars all the time. The cost of Health problems due to obesity is a burden to society. Cars kill people outright and contribute towards air pollution for everyone. Cigarettes and alcohol are literally thousands of times more lethal and both significantly worse for you (if you survive at all) than marijuana, and they are both legal.
Compared to alcohol poisoning or lung cancer or getting decapitated in a car accident or having to have a triple bypass (that society pays for) because you're such a morbid fatass, getting the munchies and having slight short term memory loss really doesn't amount to shit. When you get society to ban cars, cigarettes, alcohol, and regulate every bite of food it's citizenry eats then you will have a case for banning marijuana. But as it is our society is okay with people doing things that are incredibly detrimental to the user and everyone around them, like smoking a cigarette or eating fried chicken, and marijuana is only slightly detrimental sometimes and rarely effects anyone other than the user, so compared to the bad shit our culture is okay with it's amazing marijuana hasn't been made legal already.
But then the marijuana lobby has to get past decades of blatantly bullshit, false, racist, and contradictory propaganda produced directly by the United States government against marijuana. Funnily enough the more actual scientific research that is done about the drug (as opposed to the government propaganda, which was based on no scientific research and instead based on greed, ignorance, and a hatred of Mexicans and African Americans), the better marijuanas public image gets.
Look at cigarettes. There was a time when a doctor might have recommended you switch to menthol when you have a sore throat. Now, thanks to scientific research, we know cigarettes are actually very harmful and you shouldn't be smoking them period, let alone with a sore throat. This process went in reverse for marijuana; when it fist became prevalent it was thought that this new crazy beaner drug would make people go insane and murder their friends and loved ones and (for the white girls) sleep around with black guys. Now, thanks to scientific research, hundreds of thousands of people worldwide receive marijuana scrips to help them deal with their various illnesses, and many countries or states have realized marijuana is somewhere between the lesser of all evils and not evil at all and gone ahead and legalized recreational use.
The more we learn about cigarettes the stronger the movement to ban and/or restrict them gets.
The more we learn about alcohol the more heavily the industry gets regulated.
The more we learn about obesity in relation to a healthy diet the stronger the public sentiment that health is important gets and the stance against obesity gets more firm.
I don't think I need to tell you the auto industry is more heavily regulated than 50 years ago.
But the more we learn about marijuana the more socially acceptable it becomes. When the facts emerge and start trumping the racist prejudices society views weed - as a medication or a recreational activity - as being more and more okay.
I think the fact that the government initially tried (with no supporting research whatsoever) to make weed a schedule 1 narcotic with a potential life sentence attached to it and nowadays (after all the scientific research) doctors are legally prescribing the plant to patients in need pretty much speaks for itself. No other drug has this track record of getting more socially acceptable the more we actually learn about it.
Marijuana doesn't have to be smoked, this is common knowledge. Marijuana is bad for you? Uh oh, someone watched Refer Madness and Devil's Harvest to many times.
As for the medicare thing, yes I get that, however, someone else's health is none of your business. As for production, what is your point? You assume everyone will light up on the job then quit their profession so they can blaze 24/7? Seriously, smoking some weed on the weekends lowers production about as much as having a beer on the weekends does.
Not to take into account that you are trampling on people's property rights to do what they want with their bodies and not taking into account all of the crime that comes with having weed be illegal along with all of the leverage ti gives the government to take away rights.
It would help all of the people who have to deal with crime. It would help all of the people that have their rights taken away because the government needs more tools to "win" the "drug war."
The purpose of a government is supposed to be ensuring the people under it are well of both mind and body.
Current governments are ruled by idiots, that pretty much in the most literal sense. Those people have no idea what they are doing, they have no objective sense of right and wrong. And so the "laws" themselves are a mess. But hey, humanity is learning, slowly... extremely slowly... there's almost no hope left slowly. Very sad.
Right and wrong? Look, we aren't talking about legalizing murder or rape, the idea is not throw someone in jail or shooting them for smoking something you don't want them to smoke. Drug prohibition has never worked and it has always ended up making things worse.
Actually I do know why weed is legal; a bunch of ignorant old white dudes and their racist fear of Mexican influence/their daughters sleeping with black dudes.