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Not abolished, allowed to disintegrate under scientific knowledge. Any kind of "abolishment" would cause more trouble than wars BETWEEN religions.
Besides, many of the nicest people in this world are religious. Problem is, religions are being taken over (as they have since their beginning), by those who see their chance for control of the masses now slipping away with an awakening of facts that can't be denied. I think they'll be reduced to a few cults by the end of this century .... if we survive them.
Human rights violation..........................................................................................................................................
The Constitution recognizes a number of inalienable human rights, including freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, freedom from cruel and unusual punishment, and the right to a fair trial by jury.[61]
Rights come from God not government, and I have the right, to do whatever I want. I also have the right to equal protection under the law, and bodily choice. I will sue for assault anyone who uses my body without my consent. Oh, and I will thank you kindly British wanker to at like you know the Constition, when you do not.
No the belief that rights come from God is part of Messianic Judaism, and Christianity...............................................................................................................
No the belief that rights come from God is part of Messianic Judaism, and Christianity
The completely unfounded belief that an invisible entity there is no proof exists gave you rights there is no proof exist is a mental health condition. You are unwell and belong in a psychiatric ward. Normal people do not make up their own realities. That is abnormal.
And as for having the right to do whatever you want, then you are contradicting Messianic Judaism and Christianity anyway, so as per usual you are talking utterly delusional gibberish.
It's none of your business, what I do, because it does not, effect, you. What I do is between Yeshua, and me and the people I respect/ You are not one of them.
I don't take orders, from hypocrites, like you..............................................................................................................................
I did not create Yeshua, you have that backwards.......................................................................................................
Your entire mind is backwards. Nobody created Yeshua because Yeshua is not real. The only reason you believe in this fairy tale is because somebody else on Earth told you about it and you believed them. That's the reality of the matter whether you like it or not.
And the same, to you. I can't believe you interupted my prgam, for this drama.
You are not the centre of the universe Dana. You are such a self-centred person that frankly it is a joke watching you babble on about Yeshua. Yeshua the selfless socialist who fed and healed people for free. Then there's you, the rabid far right wingnut who thinks she has the right to kill people who annoy her.
Yeshua is, and I never said I was............................................................................................................................................................................
No. I'll reiterate, leftists believe in an individual's right to choose their own belief. That means that any person can believe whatever they want, as long as they don't break the law. We also believe in self-determination, which is the right to dictate what happens in your own life, as long as you don't infringe on other's rights.
There's nothing "insane" in that. It doesn't apply to any one group. It gives every individual a fair shot at life, provided they stick within the laws of the land.
Attempting to ban religion only makes people feel persecuted and their response is to hold in more tightly, and with less rational thought. Religion should be understood for what it is, and in that way, will eventually become relegated to the realm of myths where it belongs.
We defend it because even if we think it is wrong, we can't stop them for beileving what they want. We defend it because it is the human right to do so. I defend any religion because that's what civilized humans beileve in America you have the right to free speech you are a free person to do what ever you feel, even if it is not what you agree with.
We defend it because it is the human right to do so. I defend any religion because that's what civilized humans beileve in America you have the right to free speech you are a free person to do what ever you feel, even if it is not what you agree with.
This is a damned Disney fantasy. Wake up, will you? It is because of thinking like this that your country is being run by neo-Nazis. People are not born with a sixth sense about who is telling them the truth and who is lying to them, so when you give liars the same freedoms of speech that you give honest people, there is absolutely no reason to believe honest people are going to end up in charge.
Religion is a serious psychological infection of the mind caused by a genetic predisposition in children to believe blindly what they are told by parents, elders, and/or tribal chieftans. Not four centuries ago, European Christians were hunting and burning women to death. African Christians are still doing it today. Please spare us your naive proposition that these madmen have the "right" to infect others with a virus which causes everything from strange behaviour to murder.
One has to be dumb to be an outlaw .... but not THAT dumb.
I don't "defend" ANY religion, neither do I condone ANY religion. Still, as an American, I DO defend the right to believe in ANY religion. That's called "Freedom of (any) Religion", or none.
What country did you say you were from?? OH! ..... Trumpland! Didn't that sink to the bottom of the sea .... or sump'in??? ;-)
Spport for President Trump is not a country................................................................................................................
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DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS INFRINGING ON OTHER'S RIGHTS?
You can shut up, you raging mad lunatic. You literally want to force women into childbirth, so you have no business even discussing infringing anybody else's rights.
I am just saying, what most Christians are thinking!............................................................................................................................
The most remarkable irony is that Jesus, a man who healed people, fed them and bathed them without ever charging a fee, a man who told people to sell all their belongings and give the money to the poor, has the precise opposite politics to Dana. If Jesus came back today and ran for president under a different name, she would spit on him and call him a commie. This is the cognitive dissonance these people are living with.
Yes I do, and you don't have the right, to disrespect, me. I have done nothing wrong, and you are done here, little girl. Only a baby killing whore, would murder, her undborn baby. Babies have the right to live, so use birth control, have your tubes removed, or don't have sex.
And which of those options applies to rape victims? Are you going to tell them they should have been on birth control BEFORE they got raped? Are you then going to call the victim a baby killing whore because she had the audacity to become pregnant from rape and wants to abort so she can have her say in her own body again?
What about the woman who planned to have a child but there is something terribly wrong with it that would make it's life painful or possibly kill the mother? You going to call her a whore then too? How very....christian...of you.
Appeal to emotion, fallacy. That is a vast minority, of most abortions. You are very dishonest, and I will not, engage......................................................................
It's not a fallacy, that's a bullcrap excuse to not answer, it's examples of what real women can go through. But if you can't feel emotion for those women in those two instances then you have no business calling yourself Christian. I've been honest, you've been dodging. Again. Disengage all you want, there is no black and white in this subject and pretending like there is means you have no idea what many of those who fight for abortion really want.
Litte girl, you dont have the right to say whether I am a Christian, because you are not Yeshua, and you are not a Christian. Of course, I am a Christian, and saying otherwise, is slander.
You keep calling me "little girl" because you think that....what? Puts me in my place? You think I'm little? Maybe I'm younger than you? Thanks I think. Again though, you run into the issue of claiming you are something but not acting like it. You literally called rape victims who want to abort, whores. Do you think that's what Jesus would do? Do you think that's what Yeshua wants?
Youare a stupid lying cunt. I was not refering, to rape survivors. If you are too retarded to know this, that is your problem...............................................................................
How would I know this? You dodged the question and refused to answer the examples given, wasting time calling me "little girl", "stupid lying cunt", "bitch", and a few others instead of clarifying or providing a counter-argument. See how that works?
Youare a stupid lying cunt. I was not refering, to rape survivors. If you are too retarded to know this, that is your problem..........................
It doesn't matter whether you were referring to rape survivors because rape survivors are factually part of the demographic which will be looking to get abortions. And you can't simply exclude rape survivors from your plan to force women to have unwanted kids, because what happens if -- as is obviously likely -- the accused denies it?? The case will take months if not years to even get to court, during which time you presumably plan to force the mother to have the child.
Until you learn that you are the one who is being stupid, there is no hope of ever having a reasonable discussion with you. The planet is already vastly overpopulated, resources are scarce and they are being hoarded by the most financially powerful. Your plan to ban abortion will literally destroy the human species because the Earth will not be able to sustain us. That's the level of stupid you are, so when you make the same accusation of those disagreeing with you, it is ironic on a scale which is practically Biblical.
Yes it does matter, because she was lying. You are like a nagging wife, and I want to say, shut up, bitch!.....................................................................
No she wasn't. You are the one who is lying, just like you were the one who was lying yesterday when you claimed to have only sent me one message. Mint_Tea asked you a series of absolutely reasonable questions. This is what she asked you:-
And which of those options applies to rape victims? Are you going to tell them they should have been on birth control BEFORE they got raped? Are you then going to call the victim a baby killing whore because she had the audacity to become pregnant from rape and wants to abort so she can have her say in her own body again?
She was asking what you were going to do about rape victims so shut your lying mouth please. Some of her questions were loaded, but there are no lies in there.
You keep calling me "little girl" because you think that....what? Puts me in my place? You think I'm little? Maybe I'm younger than you? Thanks I think. Again though, you run into the issue of claiming you are something but not acting like it. You literally called rape victims who want to abort, whores. Do you think that's what Jesus would do? Do you think that's what Yeshua wants?
That's why you can't really argue with her. Her own beliefs already contradict themselves without any refutation from anybody else. A few days ago I literally showed her a medical dictionary to prove that a baby and a fetus are not medically the same thing, and she claimed it was a liberal conspiracy.
The actual charge of making an appeal to emotion fallacy is something she learned from me in the first place, when I pointed out it was what she was doing last week. She obviously held onto the phrase as ammunition, while of course categorically denying that labelling abortion "baby murder" is an appeal to emotion. She will argue something in defence of her own bias, and then make the precise opposite argument two days later, again in defence of her own bias. If personal bias is a person's only priority then you can't really ever change their mind about anything.
It's pretty well known that she doesn't always apply the correct term/word to the correct action, hell I'm capable of confusing them too but I'll own up to that. What's amazing is when her contradictions are pointed out with evidence, she can't even address it and falls back on being a victim. I go between desperately hoping a counterargument will open her mind for just a little bit or hell even a legit counterargument from her opening MY mind just a little, and feeling like a bully by simply engaging in ANY debate with her...even when I'm ignoring her bile and trying to be nice.
Yes, she does that a lot. It's one of the most deplorable character traits I have witnessed in humans and it seems to be a tenet of the fascist ideology she has been brainwashed with. Fascists demand a monopoly on victimhood because it is how they justify all the incredibly evil shit they do and/or say.
You are literally the most infuriating hypocrite I have ever met Dana. The double standards on you are just ridiculous. You have spent the last three days deliberately mislabelling abortion as "baby murder" and you want to accuse someone else of using appeals to emotion?
Yes I do, and you don't have the right, to disrespect, me.
Get over yourself you infuriating hypocrite. You literally called women who have had abortions whores, and you have done the exact same thing in this post too. And you want to talk about other people disrespecting you?
Wanting rights over your own body does not make someone a whore so fuck off you horrible woman.
I have done nothing wrong, and the baby, is not part, of the mother's body.................................................................................................................................................................................
No one will ever be able to terminate religion, it is a belief that you have. Just cause you don't agree with religion does not mean you have to practice it. If it hurts your feelings walk away because it has nothing to do with you.
to abolish religion denies freedom to peacably assemble, freedom of speech, and freedom of religion. even if you are not religious, you should realize that most religions better the world by holding people to a higher moral standard.
Nah, no need to abolish it and create martyrs because religion will continue to fade away as mankind evolves.
I truly hope you are right but I am very pessimistic about it and in fact am tempted to believe the opposite. Faith (i.e. believing something with absolutely zero evidence it is true) is a force which works in contrast to evolution, because faith is absolute (i.e. unchanging) whereas evolution works by improving what was there previously. Once you believe something is true to the point that you are unprepared to change your mind even when faced with evidence it is not true, you have closed yourself to the process of learning and hence have halted your own intellectual evolution. Even worse, this contradictory force usually doesn't die with the owner, but rather is passed onto children and relatives.
The data is divided on it too, I think. In Europe there is perhaps some evidence that religion is slowly being left behind, but in the States it is bigger than ever. I think the last stats I read on it had something like 89 percent of Americans identifying as religious, which is simply astonishing.
I think in the end either you'll be proven right or religion will eventually destroy our hopes of survival. It isn't actually the belief in God or Jesus which is the problem, but rather what you have to do to your own brain to get to the point where you are prepared to believe things just because you want to.
How would you abolish beliefs and ideas anyway? It would be a terrible idea, not just for moral reasons, but because it would be extremely impractical. I also agree with what WinstonC said.
I think abolishing religion would be a huge mistake because it is essential for society to function. Fundamentally, religion enables people to form certain values that are benefitial to society. They are taught not to steal, not to murder, to help people in need ... But religion is also something that people hold on to, because it enables them to find rational and logical explanations to questions they have been wondering about since they were kids, such as why we're on Earth. They feel like they have somebody that looks out for them whenever they believe in God, and in the end, it only makes them more optimistic.
First of all, I would like to say that you just said some incredibly stupid things.
Religion is not necessary for society to function at all, and why would it 'enable' someone to form 'certain values' when they are perfectly capable of doing that by themselves?
Then you say that people can find 'rational and logical' explanations to things like 'why we're on Earth'. That is one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever heard. If religion can offer one single solitary explanation that is founded in anything other than fantasy and fairytales I am yet to hear it.
How could anyone who believes in the god you are speaking of possibly feel optimistic when all that allegedly comes from it is nonsense.
I think abolishing religion would be a huge mistake because it is essential for society to function.
No it isn't. That's quite literally the most stupid thing I've heard all day. I suspected you were yet another bronto sock account. Now I am sure of it. Only he would say something so stupid and overtly false.
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Forcedd religion maybe, but voluntary and law abiding religion, no. Voluntary law abiding religion is a right, and a universal answer to religion, does not exist.
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