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Yes definitely!!! NO WAY!
Debate Score:30
Arguments:21
Total Votes:31
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Should Tazers be banned in the police force????

well basically, tazers are used in the police force and can be used in the police force. They can sometimes hurt people and can be gotten hold of by other people not in the police force. So should they be banned or got rid of????? 

 

Sammy xx

Yes definitely!!!

Side Score: 8
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NO WAY!

Side Score: 22

Not banned, but just stop using them. This is just another way of the brute force that the police uses. Sure, force is needed, but guns are much more effective.

Side: Yes definitely!!!
2 points

Before we begin: I actually have some personal experience with tasers so maybe I can provide a unique perspective on the matter. I went through a taser training course with a number of police officers and actually was tased as part of it.

You say in your argument that "guns are much more effective." I believe this statement misses the point of what tasers are designed for. In situations where a suspect poses an immediate threat to someone else a police officer is authorized to use deadly force and in these situations the officers are always going to use a gun. In this sense a taser is not a substitute for a gun, but instead a tool to be used in other situations.

What other situations? Well what if someone is being combative, but no to the point where deadly force would be authorized? In this case a taser is a way to force compliance. Even the threat of being tased can often get a suspect under control. Is the taser unique in the respect? No. In fact most agencies that use tasers now have only begun doing so in the last 10 years, and before that there were other, more crude methods for ensuring compliance. Pepper spray is one example, and as is a nightstick. These are non lethal tools that officers use if a suspect is not cooperating. I would like to argue that a taser is a much safer, less cruel alternative.

First lets talk about how a taser works. It shoots out 2 metal prongs approximately 25 feet (depending on the model) into the suspect. Their spread is usually about 8 degrees (once again, it depends on the model). They then deliver 50,000 volts of electricity for 5 seconds. The electricity is generated by the gun itself, and runs from one prong, through the suspects body, into the other prong. The larger the spread of the prongs the larger the effected area is. The way the taser actually works is through interrupting neuromuscular activity causing the muscles in the effected area to tense up and immobilizing the suspect.

Like I said this lasts for 5 seconds, and let me say from personal experience it was the most painful 5 seconds of my life (imagine the worst charlie horse of your life in every muscle of your body). Now how can the most painful 5 seconds of my life be less cruel than pepper spray and a nightstick? Because literally the instant the current stops there are no side effects. For me, my legs were a little sore as if I'd worked out the previous day, but otherwise nothing. I felt perfectly fine and the other people I saw get tased reported the exact same phenomenon. This is not the case if you are pepper sprayed in the face or hit with a police baton. The pepper spray can burn for over an hour after it is applied and a nightstick can cause permanent injury depending on where your hit (broken bones are worse than 5 seconds of pain). With a taser the only thing you have to worry about is the suspect injuring himself or herself when they fall. Additionally, pepper spray is not nearly as controlled as a taser and therefore the likelihood of another officer or an innocent bystander being effected is greatly increased.

Therefore the taser is an extremely effective and useful tool for police to protect both themselves and the public from dangerous or fleeing suspects.

Side: No way!
1 point

Before we begin: I only read the first two paragraphs before I fell fast asleep. Why? Because I don't care nor need to know about the history of the tazer.

This is an excellent example of police bruality of how effective tazers are. Note skip to 2:30. It is simply an excuse for more police brutality without more violence. For it was there that I learned a valuable lesson, one I shall never forget: in a police state, we're all criminals.

Think about it — how many laws have you broken today? This week? This month? Have you changed lanes without a turn signal? Exceeded the posted speed limit? Hired a neighborhood kid to cut your grass and then paid him under the table? Engaged in commerce with someone who is in the country illegally? Bought lemonade from an unlicensed "dealer" in the form of an innocent child?

Side: Yes definitely!!!
catticus90(360) Disputed
1 point

Tazer guns play an important part of criminal control here in the UK. Officers are not armed with guns, therefore some form of protection is needed against armed criminals.

Side: No way!
2 points

Tazer guns play an important part of criminal control here in the UK. Officers are not armed with guns, therefore some form of protection is needed against armed criminals.

No guns in the UK. Just when I thought the UK couldn't get any more fucking lame.

Side: Yes definitely!!!
Bohemian(3860) Disputed
1 point

Sure, force is needed, but guns are much more effective.

Gunfire may result in death, and as some situations may call for force but not deadly force in which case tasers (not tazers) are preferable.

Side: No way!
1 point

Gunfire may result in death, and as some situations may call for force but not deadly force in which case tasers (not tazers) are preferable.

This is why there are batons. I understand you enjoy the abusive powers of the STATE MONOPOLIZED police departments.

Side: Yes definitely!!!

Takers are horrible and they should be banned. Some police get a kick out of using takers on others.

Side: Yes definitely!!!
3 points

They can sometimes hurt people

Well, yes. That is the point. The pain is enough to bring a perpetrator to a stop, yet not enough to kill or to cause permanent damage (rare exceptions).

Non-lethal weapons are an incredibly useful tool for police agencies, and officers who use them are required to undergo it first themselves.

and can be gotten hold of by other people

As can absolutely anything.

Side: No way!

Well, yes. That is the point. The pain is enough to bring a perpetrator to a stop, yet not enough to kill or to cause permanent damage (rare exceptions).

Actually what's nice about tasers is that usually it isn't the pain that's causing the compliance, it's the fact that it causes neuromuscular interference. This means that even if the person could resist the pain (which it is very possible for a determined suspect to do) their muscles won't respond while they are under. The wider the spread of the two probes, the larger the area of muscles are effected.

Side: No way!
1 point

You're absolutely right.

Side: NO WAY!
2 points

When the Big Island in Hawai'i got the new tazers - there was 434 tazer incidents in one year. the second year, all had video cam AND audio whenever it is used. there were about 4 tazer incidents on the second year.

Tazer can kill people with a hidden medical condition that the cop won't be able to tell - taz whould be used very rarely. Someitme talking a person out who want to be respected and recognized on a problem they have works toward defusing a heavy situation.

Side: With cams only
1 point

Non-lethal yet incapacitating weapons surely have their place. I had to under go tazing before I was allowed to use one. Let me tell you, it is the worst feeling in the world.

There are many scenarios a police officer may encounter where he needs to keep a distance between himself and a perpetrator but that situation doesn't call for the use of deadly force; a tazer is ideal. It incapacitates the subject momentarily and allows for other officers to subdue the individual.

Side: No way!

Tazers are about the only fun a cop gets to have. Do you know how boring it can get, sometimes, being a cop? Have you ever tazered someone? Do you know how much fun that can be? Why deny our cops a few laughs ;)

Side: No way!
1 point

they can hurt people but they are better than beating the crap out of people

Side: No way!