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Uh, totally! Of course not!
Debate Score:350
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Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?

Given the recent Newtown shootings in Conneticut, do YOU think that guns should be banned in the USA, at least, to civilians?

Uh, totally!

Side Score: 138
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Of course not!

Side Score: 212
4 points

first i want to say "Uh, totally" sounds very immature.

I think that it is way to easy to get weapons in America. This is because of the "Old West" when it was the "good guy" and the "bad guy". Now it is not that simple; in the "Old Wild West" you had to have a weapon because you could be attacked by Nativ Americans (who was protecting there lands which where stolen from them). Now a days the "enemy" can be anyone and everyone (over 21+) can have a weapon. The thing that happen is that we get more weapons to protect our selfs from people with weapons, so we just keep getting more and more weapons.

This leads to us always being afraid over "What was that in the garden, SHOOT IT!" and end up killing you're friends and civilians. I think that we must get a much stronger gun registration.

Side: Uh, totally!
Omnesiah(165) Disputed
1 point

Guns aren't only for "self defense". Most gun owners are hunters or they participate in shooting sports. In some cases, the gun is how some family's survive. Some people can't afford to buy food they they hunt deer and other game. I'm currently a gun owner and i use them for shooting sports, like target shooting.

Side: Of course not!

Regulation or restriction on the sale should be imposed, a ban isn't going to work anyway, as much as drugs are banned, they are still circulating the streets. Gun sale should be controlled and only those who gone through testing and training should be allowed guns.

Side: Uh, totally!
2 points

I love those who don't read argument and just pass the post with a vote down.

Side: Uh, totally!
1 point

I also love people who vote up and down people for there arguement side; isn't it great!

Side: Uh, totally!

Just ban them. If someone can come up with a reason for guns besides putting holes in things you don't want alive then I'm all ears.

Side: Uh, totally!
Omnesiah(165) Disputed
0 points

Sports, like target shooting. Target shooting is also a great way to relive stress because you have to focus completely to take a strait shot. Secondly, Hunting, while it may still be used to kill something, its for a good cause. Many family only have enough meat to eat because someone in their family can go out and catch game. It can save allot of money for their families.

Side: Of course not!
Roblovesargu(61) Disputed
0 points

10,000 dead people. 400,000 crimes annually. What don't you get.

Side: Uh, totally!
1 point

Technically, the government cannot ban the sale of all guns to civilians in the U.S. Not constitutionally anyway. However, if you mean that the government should repeal the 2nd amendment to the constitution of the U.S., hell yes! This specific amendment has long outlived its use.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

States now have an all volunteer full time armed forces, known as the national guard. Nowhere in the 2nd amendment does it state that the right to bear arm is to protect against a tyrannical U.S. government, as some gun rights advocates claim. In fact, this is considered treasonous.

The reason many are willing to keep their guns till death (i.e. ...from my dead cold hands) is due to fear. For most of these people, guns have been the security blanket from childhood on against unsubstantiated threats that are primarily produced and maintained by the media. Many minority groups have been used to justify such unsubstantiated threats, but none like the blacks. Blacks remain the ongoing bogymen that keep many gun lovers awake at night and scared during the day.

It is illogical to continue to allow guns to proliferate to an extent that our existence is threatened just so that we can appease a few who have failed to outgrow their childhood fears.

Side: Uh, totally!
1 point

Yes. Government should ban the sale of guns. People they don't know when to use guns and to who? They use it where ever they are just to be seeing a giants/bosses. If you check now from the South of America there are shooting each and every week because of legalizing guns for safety. People die like birds in a painful way. Young pupils carry guns at school, colleges and university to scary the opponent which is a bad reputation in a society. Government and it's cabinet should take this problem further before it becomes a horrible united states of Guns not united states of America.

Side: Uh, totally!
1 point

Yes! 21% of the USA have guns, and a part the 21% are going to belong to gangs. Selling guns legally makes it much easier for gangs to acquire them.

However, there are some important uses for guns. Self Defense(especially in big cites, such as Washington DC and New York) and hunting.

So I believe people should only be able to acquire one with a license.

Side: Uh, totally!
1 point

Absolutely, simply because guns kill innocent people. Do you see people walking around with guns in places like Blackpool no. Where as in places like Houston and Austin people just walk around with guns. I totally agree with the fact that guns do not cause the damage it's the person holding it which causes the damage.But still just being able to walk around public places in America with a gun increases the risk of someone being seriously injured or even killed. Which is the main reason why I think people should not be aloud to purchase guns In america or any other place in the world simply because of that risk.

Side: Uh, totally!
1 point

Yes because people buy guns for what reason? To kill. if it is against the law in kill, it should be against the law to own guns, since they are made to kill. people sometimes argue against me with "hands also can kill". but hands are not made to kill. they are made to hold things, open things, etc. Unless your are a certified hunter or law enforcement , carrying a gun around shouldn't be legal.

Side: Uh, totally!
1 point

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the exact reason why the majority of all countries worldwide despise America. The idiocy in allowing pretty much ANYONE to have ownership of a gun. Like, wow! How stupid can you get?! The most common perception American see the gun as is a "tool to protect with", but guess what?!? You would not need this "protection" if they were illegal in the first place!

The only good use that America's guns would ever do is in the highly unlikely event of a zombie apocalypse. Which, like I just said, is highly unlikely.

Side: Uh, totally!

Guns are dangerous and banning them would be wonderful. Get rid of the guns!

Side: Uh, totally!

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a startling revelation for 2015. It is projected that deaths from guns will surpass deaths from car fatalities in 2015. An estimated 33,000 Americans will lose their lives from guns as opposed to an estimated 32,000 Americans who will die in car accidents.

The gun violence in America is an American Shame!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-12-19/american-gun-deaths-to-exceed-traffic-fatalities-by-2015

Side: Uh, totally!
0 points

Given recent shootings, such as the one in Connecticut, that wouldn't have happened had the usage of guns been banned in a civilian population. Also, guns cause war, and we want to stop war. Why not just ban guns from American civilian populations?

Side: Uh, totally!
Scout143(651) Disputed
3 points

Guns don't cause war. That's like saying a hammer built a house. The people behind the tools cause the war, or build the house. A gun is a tool. Every tool can be misused be it a hammer, chainsaw, or gun. It's the psychopaths that misuse the tool.

Side: Of course not!
hlakam(9) Disputed
1 point

Yes, guns don't cause wars. But they certainly make wars more likely and deadly. A hammer's entire justification for existence is to hit a nail on the head. In comparison, a gun's existence is to kill, namely to kill people. So, stop the BS that guns don't kill. Guns kill, and they kill fast and extremely efficiently!

Side: Uh, totally!
warrior(1854) Disputed
2 points

But murder is banned and that didn't stop the killer. The problem with gun control is you can't legislate crime out of existence.

Side: Of course not!
Roblovesargu(61) Disputed
2 points

Guns take crimes of passion and cause murders. Without a gun is much harder too snap and kill a school full of kids with a knife.

Side: Uh, totally!
demoniofuego(5) Disputed
1 point

most murderers feel that their killings are just and fair and that they are dealing justice.

Side: Of course not!

First of all guns will still be provided to armies and such, you know the people who actually are involved in war? Civilians having guns has nothing to do with war. And yes it would have. Criminals don't obey laws. they would have killed innocent people anyways. Banning the usage of guns would have done nothing to prevent that.

Side: Of course not!
Oiden(396) Disputed
1 point

Guns Cause War

No, idiots in charge of countries and the people cause war.

It would have happened even if guns were banned, he would have gotten hold of another gun or a knife then gone in stabbing.

Side: Of course not!
-1 points

yes picos ther is alot of crim out ther and if you have a gun you can defend your self or even beter you can help the pipol in danger.

pleas check out me deabat(if you se a opertunatey too mack money should take it)

AND im 12

Side: Uh, totally!
5 points

Unless you want to change the Constitution, you should be able to have guns. It is the finger that pulls the trigger that kills, not the gun.

Side: Of course not!
Roblovesargu(61) Disputed
4 points

No it's the gun. Try killing someone with a finger. Is fucking impossible.

Side: Uh, totally!
kozlov(1753) Disputed
4 points

In 2011, hammers murdered more people than AR-15's in the USA.

Source: FBI

And it's the finger THAT PULLS the trigger.

Side: Of course not!
4 points

Clearly it Is NOT the gun. So you are telling me that the gun has a mind of its own? It decides to kill people? No. Its the person who wields the gun. How much more clearly can I state that?

Side: Of course not!
3 points

I could easily kill someone with my finger, or my bare hands.

His point was the intent to murder someone doesn't require a gun to carry out. With the chemicals in my house I could make a bomb that would easily blow up a classroom. With my car I can run someone down and grind them into a pulp. With my knife I can slice someone to pieces. If someones wants to murder someone else, they're going to murder them, gun or no, and I think that was his point.

It''s better to regulate the psychos who might kill someone than every little thing they might think to kill someone with.

Side: Of course not!
Elvira(3447) Disputed
3 points

It's realatively easy to kill someone with a finger, you just need to know how. Well, two fingers actually, sharp jab to the mid-bottom of the throat.

Side: Of course not!
3 points

Lol yeah. Without a gun it's harder (not impossible) to kill someone. This way though, the bad people will come into posession with guns that much easier

Side: Uh, totally!

If more innocent death is desirable, then it is a brilliant idea.

Side: Of course not!
Roblovesargu(61) Disputed
5 points

You're comparing to Mexico, where there is an active cartel war going on. Ridiculous. Try Canada on for size smart guy.

Side: Uh, totally!
2 points

Not comparing anything to Mexico, many people in America get killed because they have no gun whereas the criminal does.

Side: Of course not!

I am glad this discussion was brought up, I strongly disagree that the Government should have the right to ban the sale of guns to the civilians in America. The second Amendment gives us the right to "Bear Arms". That is a right that the government has no right to take away. Their argument is hardly valid, they want to stop the selling of firearms to people because they think it will decrease the crimes and school shootings along with other dangers that are caused by guns. But it isn't the 'Gun' that is doing the killing! It its the person who wields the gun! They should be the ones taken out of society, not the gun itself. Do they honestly think getting rid of guns will solve anything? Granted the fact that the one thing it will be successful in is enraging many Americans. And since when do Criminals follow the law anyways? There is a reason they are criminals! Banning the sale of guns is not going to stop them! If they want to kill they are not going to simply think to themselves "Oh you know what, guns are banned, therefore I really shouldn't kill all these people" NO. That's not how it works. If they are twisted enough to want to murder people in the first place, then they will find a way around the law. They could care less about what the government says. Americans have the right to own guns. In fact, the majority of us use them for the GOOD. They can actually PROTECT us from those who use them to induce harm. So that is my opinion. And I hope I made it clear, and maybe even brought light to some of you who perhaps didn't look at it this way.

Side: Of course not!
hlakam(9) Disputed
1 point

Here is the 2nd amendment in its entirety:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

States now have standing armies called the National Guard. That nullifies the 2nd amendment.

Side: Uh, totally!
4 points

Mexico has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world and they look pretty safe.....right?

Side: Of course not!
Roblovesargu(61) Disputed
3 points

You're comparing to Mexico, where there is an active cartel war going on. Ridiculous. Try Canada on for size smart guy.

Side: Uh, totally!
warrior(1854) Disputed
3 points

They don't have complete gun control like Mexico Canadians can still own certain types of guns

Side: Of course not!
2 points

Yes, Mexico hes been ranked by the UN as the second most dangerous country right after India!

Side: Of course not!
2 points

My point exactly. Of course I was being sarcastic but thanks for clearing that up so the liberals didn't get lost

Side: Of course not!
4 points

the bill of rights allows us to "bear arms" and therefore the government cannot ban gun sales. if anybody thinks so then they obviously did not even so much as go to their history class

Side: Of course not!
4 points

more robberies need to end this way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9z331amWAA

Side: Of course not!

"A free people ought to be armed." - George Washington

Democrats need to stop doing this.

Side: Of course not!
3 points

Worth saying that banning guns from a society used to them is no t same thing as looking at countries that never had generalized possession of personal weapons. Banning guns in America would probably lead to more crime.

Side: Of course not!
3 points

If we ban guns they will just move to a black market, and then we cant track them.

Side: Of course not!
Roblovesargu(61) Disputed
3 points

You mean like when criminals steal "legal" guns from dummies.

Side: Uh, totally!
Gokumohan(335) Disputed
3 points

No when smuggling rings and the like get them .

Side: Of course not!
3 points

I'm not even going to go into what the constitution says. We all have lives we want to keep, weather it's ours or someone else's. Having a gun as a weapon is what keeps us safe. Yes there are people who have them who do bad. Even if you make guns illegal do you think no civilian will get one? Some drugs are illegal yet people still use them. Making guns illegal to the public won't change anything. Actually it will make things worse because the people with good intentions with them won't be able to have them when they need them.

Side: Of course not!
Roblovesargu(61) Disputed
3 points

Owning a gun makes you 88% more likely to be killed by one. Feel safer now?

Side: Uh, totally!

We all have to go sometime. ;)

Life became so much more simple once I made the concious decision that I have no intention of living forever ;)

Side: Uh, totally!
2 points

Okay, that's totally correct. I fully support that and it actually makes sense. Apparently the number of civilians that own guns in the US is 270 million. COME ON GUYS!

Side: Uh, totally!
Fardarmist(105) Disputed
1 point

What makes you say that? You can say any number to me but you've given me no proof to back that up.

Side: Of course not!

No. The problem is not guns and school shootings are not that common compared to car accidents. Should we ban cars? The problem is crazy people and there are better solutions than banning guns. One possible solution is to require guns be kept in a safe when the owner is not near them. If a gun gets stolen because the owner was at work and the gun was not in a safe, for example, and the gun is used in a violent crime, the owner is liable. That is much simpler to implement and more effective since the number of guns in this country is astronomical and the black market will always be able to smuggle guns into the country. But hey..., that's just me ;)

Side: Of course not!
Roblovesargu(61) Disputed
2 points

Where is the evidence that banning guns doesn't help. Look at New York City. Is statistically the safest city in America now and it has a the strictest gun laws in the country.

Side: Uh, totally!

Where's the evidence to back up your statement? I'll show you mine if you show me yours ;)

Side: Uh, totally!
warrior(1854) Disputed
2 points

A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:

• 34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"

• 40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun"

• 69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim" crime prevention at its finest

Side: Of course not!
2 points

i've got news hear about gun control in england. it seems they dont like it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKdBxpKqUvs

Side: Of course not!
Roblovesargu(61) Disputed
1 point

Jesus. Did you just use something from info wars as an actual opinion of people in England? I suppose you believe in reptilian shape shifters as well? Crazy person.

Side: Uh, totally!
warrior(1854) Disputed
1 point

Reptilian shape what?!?! I haven't the slightest clue as to what you are talking about I got that vid from YouTube you dolt

Side: Of course not!
2 points

No! Banning the sales of guns to civilians will only make it that much easier for criminals and "Adam Lanza" type people to obtain them. In reality, there is not a lot of shootings, we hear about them BECAUSE they are rare. Giving guns to good people can protect families and CHILDREN from bad people

Side: Of course not!
2 points

If the government decides to take guns away it will more than likely cause a civil war or a revolution and I doubt most of the people in the military want guns taken away, so who is the government going to have take the guns away? And there's always room in the black market for guns.

Side: Of course not!
2 points

Well, guns should not be banned for the same reason people need them for many guns are used for protection. Some people say that guns should be banned but what difference will it make. Most of the people who do bad with guns get them illegally so what difference will it make if guns are banned. Both those who do bad and who do good with it will have to get it illegally and our crime rate will increase rappidly.

Side: Of course not!
2 points

No way! there is a law in the constitution in the second amendment saying that all men have a right to take up arms.

Side: Of course not!
2 points

Banning guns wont do anything except create more trouble. When things become banned or not made anymore they become more valuable, which means more and more people are going to want them. Not every killer uses an AR-15 to kill some one thats just what everyone has in mind as a killer weapon. Anyway if they did ban guns from people who go and get a background check to get one, what would stop people who buy or get the guns free from the black market, nothing. If someone wanted to kill a shit load of people in a classroom they could do it easily by like picking up a pair of scissors and killing them. nothing will stop killing, death is everywhere, everyday is a chance you may die or live that simple

Side: Of course not!
2 points

Guns are an important part of life in America. Just because a select few have mental problems and go off killing people, it does not mean all target shooters, hunters, and gun owners should be penalized. Currently there are tons upon tons of gun laws already in place that make it difficult to purchase fire arms (at least here in Connecticut). The U.S. Government just needs to enforce the laws that are already in place. F.Y.I here in Connecticut we have some of the strictest gun laws in the country and the Newtown shooting still happened. Its not the guns that kill people, its the people who use them.

Side: Of course not!
2 points

If we want to loose more lives fine.

Chichago IL has strict gun rules, the people can't have them, and they have a very bad crime rate. Other cities, that are big in size, have no gun restrictions and a low crime rate.

See the connection?

Side: Of course not!
2 points

Definitely no!!! Yes, guns help kill people, but one of the things stated in the constitution was the right to bear arms, and you cannot go back on it!!!

Side: Of course not!
1 point

just found this website info is supper helpfull some is a little dated but not too much so 80s at the oldest http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#crime

Side: Of course not!
Roblovesargu(61) Disputed
1 point

The best part about that is you glossed over all the info that completely refutes everything you're saying.

If only 0.5% of the population has ever used a gun to prevent a robbery then they aren't doing shit.

Side: Uh, totally!

Consider 67% of crime is committed with a gun. That's a pretty awful fucking trade

Side: Uh, totally!
warrior(1854) Disputed
1 point

i didnt gloss over any thing i just copyd it there and pasted it here.

Side: Of course not!
warrior(1854) Disputed
1 point

0.5% of only 4,977 houses hardlly the whole country my friend

Side: Of course not!

That is a great website, thanks. But hey, guns are dangerous. I have to say.

Side: Uh, totally!
warrior(1854) Disputed
1 point

Theodore Roosevelt said it best "the rifle is like the ballot in that its usefulness relies soully apon the character of the user"

Side: Of course not!
1 point

If you want civilians to be defenseless in the event of armed conflict, then yes. Otherwise, no.

The thing that I find to be most ridiculous about this hotly-debated issue is the idea that it's better for guns to be in the government's hands then regular civilians...as if government officials have a different moral fabric than a regular civilian. Who's to say that if the government has most / all of the guns they won't use them for evil? History shows how ridiculous that idea is.

Side: Of course not!
1 point

Trying to get all gun away from the people will just start riots and it well turn into a civil war millions of people well get killed.

Side: Of course not!
1 point

1) It's a violation of the constitution; which in itself is illegal (2nd amendment )

2) This would probably create a multi billion dollar black market industry for guns all over America, while giving criminals more power too.

3) Personally I think it's not the guns themselves but the overall accessibility and lack of safety measures (background checks...etc) we have that really gets people killed.

Side: Of course not!
1 point

Disarmed People = Are Dominated People

Simple as that so do we really want to ban guns?

Side: Of course not!
1 point

The best way to control a person is to take their guns away.

Side: Of course not!

While I do not like guns and do not desire to own one, an outright ban wouldn't be constitutional, it probably wouldn't prevent criminals from obtaining them illegally, and legal availability of guns is not a primary factor in determining violent crimes.

The only form of increased gun regulation I support is applying state regulations to gun shows. You shouldn't find it easier to purchase a gun at a gun show then at a gun store in the same state.

Side: Of course not!
1 point

The job of the government is to protect the people and pass laws and regulations that support and uphold the constitution. While many will say that guns are dangerous, it is simply a constitutional right that the government must protect. To completely ban the sale of guns to citizens would take away a key right given to us in the constitution and would lead us down a dangerous road. That being said, I am all for increasing the background checks and strengthening the process to get guns. But completely banning them is not going to happen.

Side: Of course not!