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Abortion should be illegal Abortion should be legal
Debate Score:46
Arguments:36
Total Votes:52
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Should abortion be illegal?

Human abortion is deliberately ending one's pregenancy not to have an unwanted delivery. These days even teenagers are trying to have an abortion so that it became a hot issue. In many countries, an abortion is illegal. However many abortions are being done illegally. Should the government legalize the abortion or not?     

Abortion should be illegal

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Abortion should be legal

Side Score: 32
2 points

Yes. Abortion for any reason other than the life of the mother should not be allowed.

Side: Abortion should be illegal
2 points

What if the Mother had been raped? Why should she be expected to have to bring up the child of a man who emotionally scared her, especially when conceiving this child was never her fault?

What is the child was going to be born with some horrible deformity? Surely it would be kinder to prevent suffering?

Side: Abortion should be legal
Sitar(3680) Disputed
2 points

Abrtion does not unrape a woman. She can give it up for adoption.

Side: Abortion should be illegal
pakicetus(1455) Disputed
1 point

Why should she be expected to have to bring up the child of a man who emotionally scared her, especially when conceiving this child was never her fault?

Who says they have to bring up the child?

What is the child was going to be born with some horrible deformity? Surely it would be kinder to prevent suffering?

Do you feel like killing grown folks with horrible deformities? I mean, surely, it would be kinder to prevent their suffering?

Side: Abortion should be illegal
MKIced(2511) Disputed
2 points

There are so many instances where a woman should inherently have early termination as an option for her child and to put a blanket statement that each and every woman must carry any child she conceives, unless it begins to actively kill her, is a gross overstepping into the personal choices are women and families.

There are diseases out there that have no cure in modern medicine and, in my opinion, will never even have a cure because of their pathology. Here's an example: osteogenesis imperfecta type 2. This is a disease where a mutation in one of the genes for a type of collagen causes the protein to be severely malformed. The major result of this is that the child will never form strong bones in utero- its bones will literally fracture in its mother's womb. If the mother chooses to carry that child to term, it will live an agonizing life that lasts a few hours to a few days. And what you're saying is that since that baby isn't killing its mom, it inherently must come to term? So you're idea is to force the mother to deal with hormonal changes associated with pregnancy and back and foot pain from carrying the extra weight for 9 months just so she can give birth to a baby that will be completely deformed and die in a few days. Not to mention that this is subjecting the baby to a short life of complete misery.

Instead, a miraculous procedure exists that can terminate the pregnancy before that fetus really feels anything and before the mother's life is majorly affected. Abortion is come cases is a much more humane act for both mother and child.

Side: Abortion should be legal

Abortion should be illegal! When you abort YOUR OWN baby, you are literally KILLING YOUR OWN BABY! When did everyone start wanting to abort?? There are so many stupid teenagers out there who have kids in college and they abort the baby!! It encourages teenagers/ youths to have sex then abort their OWN baby!! Then, you live with the guilt of aborting YOUR baby for the rest of your life! If you want to have sex, and don't want to have kids, then at least use preventive methods!

Side: Abortion should be illegal
MKIced(2511) Disputed
1 point

When you abort YOUR OWN baby, you are literally KILLING YOUR OWN BABY!

Terminology is important here. Before 8 weeks, it's called an embryo. After that, a fetus. Calling it a "baby" during the entire gestation is a tactic used to elicit emotional responses to your cause. "Killing a baby" sounds so much worse than "aborting an embryo".

When did everyone start wanting to abort?? There are so many stupid teenagers out there who have kids in college and they abort the baby!

I didn't realize there was a surge in pro-abortion individuals?? The truth is the vast majority of people do not want to abort their pregnancies. It's almost always a procedure done as a last resort.

Further more, there are laws preventing teens from getting an abortion without parental consent. As for college kids, they have their reasons! Sometimes contraceptives don't work, sometimes it's because of rape.

If you want to have sex, and don't want to have kids, then at least use preventive methods!

A lot of times, people do use contraceptives. Condoms are not miracles that prevent all pregnancies. According to the cdc, up to 18% of women can still get pregnant with condom use. The only really effective birth control methods are permanent.

As a side note, who are you to decide what other women do with their own bodies? If you're so against "killing the babies" then here's a solution: you can raise every child that would have otherwise been aborted!

Side: Abortion should be legal
1 point

Firstly, they sound different but the action of aborting the child is still the same.

Secondly, girls @ college should be carrying pepper spray or not get drunk so that they don't get raped.

Thirdly, there are other ways of preventive measures either than condoms.

BUT OVERALL WE BOTH HAVE A POINT ON DISAGREEING ANG AGREEING...

Side: Abortion should be illegal

The relationship between the fetus and the woman is parasitic. As the woman is the host to this parasite she can kick it out of her body if she wants to, as it is her body.

Furtherly regular EEG (brainwaves) doesn't occur until 25 weeks of the pregnancy. Therefore the fetus is insentient.

Side: Abortion should be legal
HarvardGrad(174) Disputed
1 point

The relationship between the fetus and the woman is parasitic. As the woman is the host to this parasite she can kick it out of her body if she wants to, as it is her body.

The relationship of an infant to its mother falls along this same criterion; so, it's fair for a woman to throw her baby off the cliff since that baby is dependent on her?

Therefore the fetus is insentient.

So you're presupposing that only sentient entities have the right to life?

I should also add that your statement isn't logically consistent; the fetus is a fetus even after 25 weeks- a number from which you stated makes the fetus sentient. But you then say the fetus itself is insentient as it is a fetus.

Furtherly regular EEG (brainwaves) doesn't occur until 25 weeks of the pregnancy.

The creator didn't offer a timeframe of which an abortion should be executable. Notwithstanding, this addition is meaningless as you previously stated that the mother has every right to rid of the parasite leaching off of her; after 25 weeks that same parasite is doing the same thing just with more brain activity.

Side: Abortion should be illegal
Atrag(5666) Disputed
2 points

he relationship of an infant to its mother falls along this same criterion; so, it's fair for a woman to throw her baby off the cliff since that baby is dependent on her?

No. But she has the right to give it to someone else through adoption or wardship of the state. Not possible with a fetus and therefore not a fair analogy.

after 25 weeks that same parasite is doing the same thing just with more brain activity.

No. The child can survive outside the womb at 25 weeks gestation. It is no longer completely dependent on its host.

Side: Abortion should be legal
1 point

The relationship of an infant to its mother falls along this same criterion; so, it's fair for a woman to throw her baby off the cliff since that baby is dependent on her?

It does not fit the same criterion. It is dependent on her but is it actually inside her body, attached to her womb, feeding from her bloodstream? A child is only a metaphorical parasite, where as a fetus in the womb literally is.

So you're presupposing that only sentient entities have the right to life?

Absolutely. If you uprooted a plant or butchered a jellyfish would anyone care?

Side: Abortion should be legal

I don't understand why it is so much for discussion-it depends upon the conscience of the woman,any recognized genetic disorder in the unborn,certainly it's a preventive measure.

Side: Abortion should be legal
1 point

We discussed this topic a few days ago under the debate title

"Is it more important to reduce abortions or a law banning it?

Please read the responses for that debate

Side: Abortion should be legal

Yeah, a woman's choice is a woman's choice.

Side: Abortion should be legal
TheDumbOx11(6) Disputed
1 point

A murderer's choice is a murderer's choice. A rapist's choice is a rapist's choice. Giving someone the choice to do something does not make that deed good or right.

Side: Abortion should be illegal
1 point

I get it you believe abortion is wrong, fair enough. You see the way I see it is a if a woman gets pregnant she should get the right to make her own choice. Now, if you believe abortion is wrong, than why do you believe it should be illegal? Shouldn't you convince woman who have to make the choice that abortion is wrong rather than forcing your own moral philosophy on them?

Side: Abortion should be legal
1 point

There is and never will be an objective definition for what constitutes a human life. Consequently, there will never be agreement on the matter of abortion and the legal/ethical status of the fetus. Opinion is thus rendered a meager basis from which to advance an argument on the matter.

Objectively and pragmatically, it is difficult to conceive of a basis from which to oppose the legalization of abortion. Unwanted pregnancies that are not aborted lead to unwanted children, imposing a burden upon individuals, communities, and society at large that could otherwise be avoided. Either way, of course, the issue has not led to the collapse or significant disruption of any society to my knowledge regardless of which way it has resolved itself. Surely there are more important issues to discuss...

Side: Abortion should be legal

If someone is a strict constructionist who interprets the Constitution word for word, the sanction for abortion is given under the Fourteenth Amendment.

The Fourteenth Amendment of our U.S. Constitution defines a citizen “a citizen” at birth. If a woman is carrying a fetus in the womb, the U.S. Constitution does not designate the fetus as “a citizen.” It would take an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to declare a fetus a citizen. You have to be born in order to be recognized as a citizen. Therefore, a woman does have the right to choose. A fetus inside the womb is not designated as a citizen according to the U.S. Constitution so by default is not entitled to life, liberty, or prosperity. You have to be born in order to be endowed with those privileges. To conclude, neither the Federal government nor any of the States can deny a woman the right to choose.

If abortion is murder, abortion would have been terminated years ago due to the cruel and unusual punishment clause under the Eighth Amendment. Again, proof that a fetus is not recognized as a citizen of the United States of America.

Side: Abortion should be legal