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Debate Score:74
Arguments:47
Total Votes:112
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Should abortion be safe, legal, and rare?

Yes.

Side Score: 47
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No.

Side Score: 27
1 point

In your sick selfish world, there is not one unborn life deserving of protection!

You vote for the Democrat Party where every Presidential candidate supports NO RESTRICTION ABORTIONS!

These are not life of mother or other extreme case abortions. The vast majority of these abortions have nothing to do with a mother's safety!

These radical pro abortion Democrats are tied hip line and sinker to the feminist abortion lobby! They have sold their souls for money and votes. People like you support their radical policies when voting for them.

Do you think you are kidding God? LOL, as if you even cared!

Side: Yes.
1 point

In your sick twisted view, rape victims should be forced to give birth. A zygote is not a baby, and there are a few situations where I support the mother's choice. if abortion is outlawed, mothers will die in back alley abortions. I would be happy to look up some information for you, and no, I DON'T like abortion, I just don't want pregnant mothers to die. All safe legal and rare abortion means is that all choices are presented, and the abortion is a last resort. I noticed how prolife compassion stops at birth. Why is that?

Side: No.
FromWithin(8239) Disputed Banned
1 point

This is my last post to an absolute liar.

The Democrat Party, that you vote for, does not stop at extreme case abortions! THEY SUPPORT ALL ABORTIONS, SO THIS IS WHAT YOU SUPPORT WHEN VOTING FOR THEM!

The GOP compromise supports extreme case abortions, and up to a 20 week limits,so stop spewing such ludicrous excuses and denials!

YOU SUPPORT ALL ABORTIONS WITH YOUR VOTE!

IGNORE!

Side: Yes.
Chinaman(2982) Clarified Banned
1 point

Do you like killing the African American population in the womb.

Dummy you like the victimization The Party gives you.

Side: Yes.
Mint_tea(4341) Disputed
1 point

You vote for the Democrat Party where every Presidential candidate supports NO RESTRICTION ABORTIONS!

Show evidence of this. What I'm finding is that most support abortion in some form but there is absolutely nothing about your favorite claim of no restriction abortions.

Side: No.

He has no evidence, just Fux Noise....................................................................................................................

Side: No.
FromWithin(8239) Disputed Banned
1 point

GET REAL!

Do you ever watch the debates when the panel asks them all what their abortion stance is?

Did you see they all want to end the Hyde Amendment, which protects tax payers from paying to kill babies.

Did you watch the GOP compromise 20 week limit abortion bill (unless extreme cases) get shot down by every democrat except for a couple?

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION THAT BUT FOR A COUPLE, THEY ALL VOTE LOCK STEP TO KEEP NO RESTRICTION ABORTIONS LEGAL!

I have posted the facts on the votes for the GOP late term abortion Bill many times. It's easy to see if you actually cared.

The truth is that you could not care less what these extremists support... you would still vote for them!

Side: Yes.
FromWithin(8239) Disputed Banned
1 point

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/01/29/republicans-push-20-week-abortion-ban-bill-get-democrats-record/1075817001/

It matters not what the facts show, you are a complete Leftist joke and could not care less.

Side: Yes.
Chinaman(2982) Clarified Banned
1 point

The Democrat supports killing African Americans in the womb but i thought your party was the Party of Compassion.

Is that not true.

Side: Yes.
1 point

Absolutely. Abortion for convenience ought to be opposed as a crime. That being said, underage girls, rape victims, chid abuse victims, people whose kids are going to be in a life-long vegetative state, and women whose pregnancies risk their lives, all ought to have safe access to abortion.

And if this is refused and access to abortion at will is adopted, then men also ought to have the legal right to give up all their responsibilities and duties in fatherhood. It would require only the signing of a document to the effect of "I legally relinquish all rights and responsibilities", and would have the same legal, financial and cultural implications as a woman giving her child away at a safe haven zone.

One rule for one gender and another for the other, is not equality. It is precisely, by definition, the opposite.

If a man is legally compelled to shoulder parental responsibilities, barring exceptional cases, then why should women be any different?

To that effect, we must hold both sexes accountable for providing for and nurturing healthy babies, exempting the cases mentioned above.

Side: Yes.

Agreed. I am personally opposed, but prochoice. I don't think my rights began until I was viable.

Side: Yes.
seanB(959) Disputed
1 point

If my girlfriend were to get pregnant, I would be furious with her if she had an abortion. Legally, it is her right, where I live. But I would probably never speak to her again. Because I believe there is such a thing as an unborn life. And it is as much a part of my progeny and my legacy, as it is her's.

I also am angry at the fact that, while she has at least three avenues out of parenthood: abortion, adoption, or legal relinquishment, I as a man have none. If she gets pregnant and decides to abort: I have no legal input. If she gets pregnant and decides to keep the child, I must be legally compelled to provide for it. If she gets pregnant and decides not to name me on the birth dcertificate, I must spend tens if not hundreds of thousands fighting for paternity. If I decide that I don't want to be a father, she can legally compel the government to take a significant proportion of my income to finance her own parental decision.

As a man, there is no such thing as reproductive rights. And I must admit, I resent her somewhat for having this level of power over me in society.

But I also care about her, and I care about unborn children, and I would be completely against abortion in a personal circumstance. However, the fact that it is a legal choice, makes me question whether society and women really want true equality. Because: what would that look like? Men can legally give up all responsibility: who would pay for all the children out there whose mothers get child support payments?

It is a screwed up system. As a man, I can have my child taken away from me and spend years in a legal battle even just to have any access to them. But if the shoe were on the other foot, I would be legally culpable for kidnapping.

It is atrocious. I despise this system.

But I also believe in a fair medium: abortion that is rare and necessary, safe, and legal, equal parental rights, equal parental responsibility, and equal financial culpability, with no advantages or biases for either sex.

Side: No.
1 point

Absolutely. Abortion for convenience ought to be opposed as a crime.

I think people are looking at this backwards. I think that, unless you can prove you are a fit parent, you should not be allowed to have kids and the crime should be not having an abortion.

Side: No.
seanB(959) Disputed
2 points

Who decides what a "fit parent" is?

It's bordering on eugenicist.

Side: Yes.
1 point

I disagree. Bodily choice is a human right..............................................................................................................................

Side: Yes.
Chinaman(2982) Clarified Banned
1 point

The B if pregnancy is going to risk a woman's life then why not have the surgical procedure done to tie them there tubes.

Side: Yes.
seanB(959) Disputed
2 points

Because it is their choice. Plenty of women will happily give up their own lives to save their unborn children. What you are doing is twisting my argument. I said that in the case where a woman's life is threatened by a pregnancy, she ought to have access to safe and legal abortion, should she choose to go that route. That does not mean that I believe that we should sterilize women with fertility issues.

Side: No.
FromWithin(8239) Clarified Banned
1 point

You do realize that the Democrat Party would NEVER adopt a policy of no abortions for convenience.

They would call you a fanatic and a Right wing nut case for even suggesting such a thing.

We have so many deceptive fools on this site who say they agree with that, but then elect Democrats who support NO RESTRICTION ABORTIONS!

If you ever vote for these Left wing radical Pro abortion politcians, your words are pure phony.

If you say it should be a crime to abort for convenience, then the Democrat Party should be in jail!

Side: Yes.
seanB(959) Disputed
2 points

I don't know how many more times I need to say this, but I am not an American. I don't vote in your elections. And I have made my position on abortion abundantly clear. It is there, in writing.

Side: No.
YeshuaBought(2860) Clarified
1 point

You do realize that you don't have the right to a woman's uterus?.....................................................................................

Side: Yes.
seanB(959) Disputed
1 point

And also, you country is effectively a two party state. Are you saying that people, even if they disagree with 10% of Democrat policies, should vote for the opposite Republican party when they disagree with 90% of their policies?

It seems to me like people tend to vote for what they believe is the lesser of two evils in the USA: Dem or Republican.

That doesn't mean that every voter agrees with the most extreme policies of their chosen party.

Perhaps, rather than attack everyone who votes differently to you, you could work instead to give people more voting options.

I know for a fact that not everyone who votes Dem agrees with no restriction abortion, but perhaps that issue is only one of a multitude of issues that are important to them. And perhaps, by voting Democrat, a majority of their viewpoints are likely to be pushed for, even if there are those tehy don't agree with.

I mean, I am sure there are elements within the Republican party who you disagree with. Yet you still vote for them.

Side: No.
1 point

Mistake post mitake post mistake post mistake post mistake post

Side: Yes.
1 point

i think the abortion is not legal it's a murder, in Pakistan it's not legal, but I some circumstances its true, https://www.plurk.com/p/niviwz

Supporting Evidence: stop cats from scraching furniture (www.scoop.it)
Side: Yes.
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