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We should limit growth in some way. Maybe a good start would be to stop researching science of aging. One thing we don't want is for people to live 200+ years.
Definitely, but in conjunction with educating the public on overpopulation. Its not working in China because china isn't so friendly towards females. Laws must be adapted to fit the need of the population of the country, not just thrown into law and expected to thrive like what happens with most laws in most countries.
Okay, I mean it's pretty straightforward. This policy leads to a high rate of infanticide and abandonment, for one thing. Chinese women also have the highest suicide rate of any other country because this policy favors males so much more than females, as families can only have one child, which invariably leads to a preference of one sex over the other.
Well, let's just think about it. Imagine a woman aborting her child because that child is female, and then imagine that woman having to live with the guilt of her decision. Imagine a woman who desperately wants her daughter, but has that daughter forcibly stripped from her womb. Imagine a Chinese girl growing up knowing that her parents wished she were a boy, because then she would have a greater value. These circumstances probably can be attributed greatly to the one-child policy. In this way, the policy directly contributes to elevation of males above females and it's easy to see the results.
And why should we care how people feel about the law?
Unpopular laws are characteristic of an overreaching government. Citizens should have a reasonable say in the law.
Laws are presented for national stability not to suit the emotional requirements of others.
So you're in favor of killing people because it's better for national stability? Yeah, screw all those people who care about their family members and other human lives. Seems legit.
Unpopular laws are characteristic of an overreaching government. Citizens should have a reasonable say in the law.
Yes I agree, but who chooses what is reasonable and what is not? The Government. If it brings more harm to the system then it is deemed unreasonable.
So you're in favor of killing people because it's better for national stability?
Not the point. No one would have to be killed if they just didn't have another child.
And no one is stopping them from having another child. If they really want to have another child simply move to somewhere where this law does not exist.
Yes I agree, but who chooses what is reasonable and what is not? The Government.
No, the citizens do.
If it brings more harm to the system then it is deemed unreasonable.
Right. And I think it can be argued that the policy has brought way more harm than good to the system, therefore it is unreasonable.
Not the point. No one would have to be killed if they just didn't have another child.
So you're arguing there's enough inherently wrong about having a child to warrant death? I find that ridiculous.
And no one is stopping them from having another child. If they really want to have another child simply move to somewhere where this law does not exist.
This should not be the case. One should not have to leave their country simply because they want a family.
Please provide proof that sexual desires are controlled
Well don't take it quite so literally.
Can you not agree that if someone doesn't want to have their child/killed taken away that they may abide by the law and control their desire to have unprotected sex?
and proof that the Chinese don't want to see children killed.
Proof is their reaction. They commit suicide because they've seen their children die/taken away from them.
If you lack information yourself you can't make a good argument.
So go do some research first then come back with hopefully a better argument. :D
Can you not agree that if someone doesn't want to have their child/killed taken away that they may abide by the law and control their desire to have unprotected sex?
Nope, people in America don't want children at all and can't stop having unprotected sex, so I can't conclude that your statement is correct.
Proof is their reaction. They commit suicide because they've seen their children die/taken away from them.
So, you are saying that the one child policy causes suicides because the women can't control their sexual desires(kills your claim) and have children when they are not supposed to (you claim this wouldn't happen with your pro one child policy), so clearly they must not want to see children killed. Uh, how come their actions lead to dead babies? Shouldn't they have not had babies then?
f you lack information yourself you can't make a good argument.
So go do some research first then come back with hopefully a better argument. :D
Oh, I am so sorry that I did what you do, I guess you are an asshole, seeing how you treat yourself. Apparently you never have evidence.
Nope, people in America don't want children at all and can't stop having unprotected sex
This is Invalid considering there isn't even a one child policy in America
So, you are saying that the one child policy causes suicides because the women can't control their sexual desires Nope Your assumption is far off. The suicides are caused because the woman/man broke the law and decided to have a child.
(you claim this wouldn't happen with your pro one child policy)
No I never directly stated that women WOULD NOT have children because of this policy, but that it could convince them not to have children.
This is Invalid considering there isn't even a one child policy in America
I provide proof, and you reject it. People in America claim they don't want kids. Those same people don't use protection. It all fits.
Nope Your assumption is far off. The suicides are caused because the woman/man broke the law and decided to have a child.
You know you have no proof of that, plus it goes against your statement that it was because they don't want to harm children.
No I never directly stated that women WOULD NOT have children because of this policy, but that it could convince them not to have children.
You said it works very well.
Can you prove I never have any evidence? :D
I saw you do this stupid proof thing before and I called you out on it. So, I went back and found where you did it before. I could have sworn it was more than once. But, I guess not. I just wanted to point out that your asking for proof reaction was stupid, and you proved me right.
I provide proof, and you reject it. People in America claim they don't want kids. Those same people don't use protection. It all fits No it does not fit you failed to include the one child policy in your equation :/
You know you have no proof of that, plus it goes against your statement that it was because they don't want to harm children.
No it doesn't go against the statement it's just including it within the other possibilities :l
You said it works very well.
Yes I did, but that does not mean that the idea is 100% successful. You are only assuming that's what i meant. :l
I saw you do this stupid proof thing before and I called you out on it. So, I went back and found where you did it before. I could have sworn it was more than once. But, I guess not. I just wanted to point out that your asking for proof reaction was stupid, and you proved me right.
Stupid proof thing? What is so wrong with asking for proof?
No it does not fit you failed to include the one child policy in your equation :/
You provide a claim. I say your claim may be false, and provide a very good reason. You say "No!". So, I will continue to disagree with you. I would argue that what people personally want would be a much stronger motivator than what the law says, so my example is strengthened by not bringing in the one child policy into the equation.
No it doesn't go against the statement it's just including it within the other possibilities :l
If you keep naming different reasons, don't they start to not have any bearing on the situation?
Yes I did, but that does not mean that the idea is 100% successful. You are only assuming that's what i meant. :l
Wait, what? We are talking about it being successful at all, not 100%. You claimed you never said women wouldn't have children. You didn't claim that all women wouldn't have children.
Stupid proof thing? What is so wrong with asking for proof?
Good question, why did you get so upset with me when I asked you? If someone gives a belief it is kind of stupid to ask for proof. If you ask for evidence or reasoning it isn't so bad. But, you use the word proof for situations that can't be proved. I overreacted though. I thought it was something you had been doing over and over again. A couple months ago someone asked me for proof when the debate topic was what do you think ... So, now I am extra pissed off when people ask for proof.
Good question, why did you get so upset with me when I asked you?
I didn't get upset. I just realized that no matter what I said, the situation would only lead to more bickering cause you were obviously just trying to annoy me which I find immature. Busting in all mad and sht isn't going to convince me of anything other than you are immature. So if you want to convince me I'm wrong in some way, chill out first.
And not I'm only asking for proof I included the option of providing an example So that i could better understand their belief or what they are trying to tell me.
I think what we've been debating about has been dealing with human emotion, which doesn't register in my brain very well anyway. So I resign
I didn't get upset. I just realized that no matter what I said, the situation would only lead to more bickering cause you were obviously just trying to annoy me which I find immature. Busting in all mad and sht isn't going to convince me of anything other than you are immature. So if you want to convince me I'm wrong in some way, chill out first.
How am I the one who is upset or immature? I used your words.
And not I'm only asking for proof I included the option of providing an example So that i could better understand their belief or what they are trying to tell me.
Yeah, I figured that out about you too late, sorry.
True. I was trying to point out that you were silly for posting that. So I posted like you and you thought I was a jerk. Weird. Since I got the expected reaction from you, I couldn't be happier. :)
You should have taken it seriously, you made a claim without any proof attached to it. Using Intangible logic, I was well justified in asking for proof.
zzz I've obviously confused you due to my lack of specification. I don't feel like going back and making the corrections for it is not worth it. And yes you win
That question make perfect sense. It asks, "Why do you need to limit population". Therefore you respond to it by answers it. That's a question.
They are 6 billion people living in the world. Now lets say that living space is about 100 square feet. Texas has 7,488,166,118,400 square feet. Do the math and you will come around 1 million or billion short or something have the number. Too many digits to keep it straight.
Why do we did Guess you made some grammatical errors there....
You've got to remove tons of those square feet because you have to include all of the gas/oil rigs and locations....there's so many. and if you are building a new living arrangement and end up striking oil you will have to remove those square feet as well.
