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Should gay marriage be illegal?

Should gay marriage be illegal or legal around the world?

Indal

Side Score: 32
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Annya

Side Score: 25
2 points

First of all, I want to say that I do not have anything against gay; I am not saying kill them or if I see one I will not say that he or she is disgusting. I just think homosexuality is innately unnatural. If gay marriage will be allowed everywhere then it can have a huge impact on our society and the future generation. Children will be growing and thinking it is normal when a boy likes a boy and a girl likes a girl. In 1982, Americans were asked whether they think gay and lesbian relations are normal. 34 percent of them responded that it is “acceptable” and 52 percent said it was "not acceptable." In 2001, 40 percent of Americans said that homosexuality is “morally acceptable” and 53 percent answered that it is “morally wrong.” In 2008, 57 percent said that homosexuality is “acceptable” and 40 percent said it was not. Nowadays, in 2017 already 60 percent of Americans responded that gay or lesbian relations are "morally acceptable," and only 37 percent said they are "morally wrong." A lot of people already think it is normal to be gay and imagine what might happen in the future when gay marriage will be completely allowed? People who I talk about this always respond the same "THEY ARE PEOPLE, THEY HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS, AND THEY CAN LOVE WHOEVER THEY WANT TO.” Yes, love whoever you want to, any race, any nationality, and any age, but not the same gender! God created us in pairs; men with women and women with men, and that is it!

Side: Indal
wisdumb(77) Disputed
2 points

It always goes back to the god argument. Apparently the only reason people are offended by homosexuality is because "God didn't make us that way". It's primitive thinking. If you got rid of this idea, there would be no reason to bully these people. Who cares what they choose to do with their lives anyway? Even if god does exist, isn't it his place to judge and not yours? Most people accept homosexuality and that is not a problem. It's nobody's business. They don't reproduce so what are you afraid of anyway? Just let people be themselves.

Side: Annya
2 points

Apparently the only reason people are offended by homosexuality is because "God didn't make us that way

I'm not brothered by homosexuality. I actually just don't care.

Side: Indal
2 points

Even if god does exist, isn't it his place to judge and not yours?

Sniff sniff (tears up). My little Bronto Jr. is all grown up. I'm so proud. I knew I raised you right...

Side: Indal

If i could, i would up vote you up to the number of letters in your statement. There is profound sense in every part of it.

Side: Indal
seanB(950) Disputed
1 point

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Side: Annya
Tsunami(3) Disputed
0 points

You know what? Shut up. If you don't think that human life is worth it, then how much is yours worth? Hmm? I'm waiting...!

Side: Indal
John_C_1812(277) Disputed
1 point

The issue is Gay Marriage can be tested as illegal anywhere in the world that holds a judicial Court. The danger was in some Countries this type of attack to principle has very serious punishments for the crimes that are being tested. Sadly the open plagiarism was not a sufficient warning to holed the title Gay Marriage from test. The test of crime most effects a witness on a perjury level and manipulating of witnessing on an official legal document. However constitutional test can be Fraud, and religious test to hold political office, as these type proceedings have their own clause of discovery for limitation.

Also keep in mind Gay is an accusation that is placed as a burden on a person, so a person might put Gay or lesbian on a draft card or draft registration, as they have been openly in public accused. The issue with the military is compounded by the point accusation is a assault on the United States Constitution state of separation and a persons character. Bottom line international obligation to United States Constitution is far less by oath than domestic republic obligation.

Side: Annya
2 points

I completely understand that they are human beings and they have a right to love whoever they want to. However, their orientation is not acceptable. Gay people are not born this way. There is not even a scientific evidence for proving that they are born gay. A lot of researchers that have studied this case say that the environment and the genes affect the orientation of a person. Dr. Lisa Diamond, a top researcher with the American Psychological Association and lesbian activist has acknowledged that gays are not ‘born that way. Fr. Johannes Jacobse, founder of The American Orthodox Institute, supported Diamond’s point by saying "Sexuality desire is fluid, homosexual desire is not ‘hard-wired;’ that ‘born that way and can’t change’ is a myth; feelings don’t overrule volition (behavior is a choice, one does not need to act on every feeling — especially sexual feelings); the ‘born that way’ argument is political, not scientific; sexual orientation is subject to change among others.” Homosexuality is an illness that develops as a person grows. If you tell a child that loving the same gender is normal, the child will think so. Parents also play a big role in the development of a child as a person. If parents accept homosexuality then their child will to. Yes, sometimes children have a different view on a certain situation than their parents; however, they will still listen to their point and consider it. The things parents did not teach their child, the society will teach, and correct what does not fit their views.

Side: Indal
1 point

It is amazing that a lot of children got adopted; they have a family now. I am really happy about it. However, these children will be growing and they will be accepting the homosexuality. More and more people will accept the unnatural orientation of gay people. As I said previously, homosexyality is an illness. It is like cancer; it develops, but if you notice it earlier, you can heal it. The same is with homosexuality. A person does not just become gay as he or she borns. His or her sexual orientation develops. It is fluid and it can change in people. Therefore, when parents notice the unnatural sexual orientation of their child they should talk to him, talk with experts like psychologists. When we are born we don’t know what is good or bad, what is right or wrong, what is normal and what is not. We learn as we grow. Close your eyes and imagine yourself on the place of a child whose parents are gays. Everyday you will wake up and see two men or women in bed, kissing and hugging each other. The people who think homosexuality is normal might think it is okay and you do not mind, “they are humans.” But just imagine. Imagine introducing your parents to other people. What will you say, “this is my dad and my…..dad” How do you know that children who got adopted are happy to have gay parents? Yes, they might be I do not know because they are humans just like us and they have rights, I totally agree. Of course, these kids question themselves, “why other children have a mother and a dad and I have two dads?” Because they are kids and as I said they are learning as they grow, they make their own conclusions. Or imagine your child being gay. Your son comes to you and says “mom, it is my boyfriend.” And again people who are for homosexuality might think I will support him and say it is okay. But do not forget one thing, you do not have a child yet. You were born from the love of your father and mother, from the love of a man and a women. If your dad fell in love with a man or your mom was with a woman, you would not be born. So you are okay if one day your dad comes to you and tell you and your mother, “daughter and wife, I fell in love with a man.” Will you be okay with that? When it actually happens to you, you will understand. Don’t lie to yourself. When something is about other people, in this case gays, it is okay, you say they have human rights. But when it is about you, no, you do not want your child to be gay or have gay parents. In order to understand other people you should put yourself in their shoes.

Side: Indal
1 point

You are saying gay people should be equal to other human beings when Blacks and Muslims are still facing discrimination? Nowadays, people do not want to make colored people and Muslim as equal as us only because of the color of their skin and their religion, but are willing to make gays equal. Accepting homosexuality does not mean making gay people equal to others. Accepting it means making the world and its people anomalous. Everything has continuance. If you send all gays to an island in about 30 years all of them will die. Because there is no continuance in gay people. And now as more and more people accept homosexuality, especially children and teenagers--the future generation, and a lot of them become gay, there is a question appears "Is there continuance in the future?"

Side: Indal
jolie(9810) Banned
0 points

Marriage should be illegal. It gives women way too much power over men ;)

Side: Indal
0 points

Hello I:

I agree with you... Homosexuality sucks.. And, if you wanna get RID of gay marriage, that's simple too.. All you gotta do is take away the RIGHTS that go along with marriage.. But, as long as RIGHTS are attached to marriage, gay people are Constitutionally ENTITLED to those rights...

It's about RIGHTS, and nothing more than RIGHTS... You DO believe in EQUAL rights, don't you?? Oh, you DON'T??? Well then.. There ya go..

excon

Side: Indal
wisdumb(77) Disputed
0 points

I think you meant for this to be on the other side .

Side: Annya
2 points

The general reason most believe that homosexual marriage should remain illegal is because they say is unnatural. It is unnatural because homosexuals cannot have children.

But if you mean by unnatural that it cannot be found in nature, homosexuality is actually very natural.

Anthropological studies shows that in history and today, as well as developed and primitive societies, homosexual behavior is common.

Its frequency among humans and mammals ( monkeys, Dolphins, apes, and even lions) makes it natural.

It would be more correct to say that in American society, homosexuality is not normal. If that is the reasoning behind marriage laws then it would make sense to not allow any abnormal couples to marry.

Side: Annya
John_C_1812(277) Disputed
1 point

Most people believe homosexual marriage should remain illegal is due to the plagiarism of the word marriage. Marriage was a witness account created describing a Union of state between man and woman that was not sexually biased.

Side: Indal

I am not for or against gay people, but honestly it is not you to decide what they do. There should be no argument, who cares if it is "unnatural" who are you to decide. They are people you are people. There are so many other problems in this world we need to deal with. In conclusion just stop with this argument it is not you to decide.

Side: Annya
2 points

There's no reason that anybody should really be concerned with gay marriage. If two people want to legally join, it's none of your business. Everybody should get to choose what they do with their own life as long as they aren't endangering others. If two men want to live together and enjoy the benefits of marriage, they should be able to. If you don't want to, that's up to you. Leave them alone.

Side: Annya
1 point

I believe that gay people should be allowed to get married and the law should never get in between that. One of the many reasons I think it should be legal for a homosexual to get married is, just as a straight heterosexual man or woman are completely granted the right to get married it is equally as fair for a gay person to also be granted this right logically. Homosexual people have never in large protesting groups tried to outlaw heterosexual marriage, so if they don't seem to have anything against our rights, why should we have anything against their human rights? They are human just like any other straight person and their values should mean just as much and we should all never be allowed to punish a person for their sexuality, especially when they weren't thrown into it. They were born with this desire that is completely normal and should be acceptable.

Side: Annya
FromWithin(8241) Disputed
3 points

What you seemingly can not graps is the slippery slope. When you allow one small group of people to change our marriage laws under ludicrous equal rights rationale, then you must allow all groups.

Do you want a man being able to have 30 wives and all of those wives gettng Government benefits from the marriage?

Do you want men being able to marry consenting children? You scream kids are not allowed to make that choice because they are too young? WHERE IS THEIR EQUAL RIGHTS?

Do you see the slippery slope when we start forcing every State to change their marriage laws?

Side: Indal
Gypsee(347) Disputed
2 points

Hahaha FromWithin, what I am about to tell you might frustrate you. I know you dislike it when people do this. I just ask for you not to see it as a way to poke you. I will be using your own words against you.

This was an argument you used in a debate about free speech where you pointed out an illogical liberal argument:

In order to brainwash Americans into censoring our most basic religious freedoms, the Left had to make you fear that if we allow religious expressions of symbols such as nativity scenes, we would all of a sudden have symbols of witch craft all over our public lands. LOL

The way I understood your criticism is that liberals believe if we allow one group to speak everything and anythIng can be possible. You gave the example, that allowing Christians to display their religion will allow all sorts of pagan rituals on our street in front of our children.

Now how is that argument different from your argument above : when you allow one group you must allow all groups?

Side: Annya
1 point

It will diminish youth suicide. Many young teens are in the realms of self discovery, learning more about their bodies their feelings, the people that surround them and most importantly the harsh and cruel reality of the outside world. Many teens suffer from depression and even worse suicide because of non acceptance and bullying. One of the many reasons is there sexuality. Who are we to push young teens to the point that they don't find a reason to continue living just because of their sexuality.

Side: Annya
Gypsee(347) Disputed
2 points

Although I agree with your side, I disagree with your argument. I believe that attraction is developed early in life and is formed as our personality forms. The simple reason I say this is because your argument suggests that sexual orientation can be genetically transmitted. And that would not make sense because homosexuals cannot have kids.

edited : actually I take that back. Theoretically, there could possibilities of transmission if homosexuality was a recessive gene. The test to prove the genetic component would be using twins. I am sure there are studies out there where they asked themselves if one twin is gay, genetics would impose that the other must be as well. I would expect that sometimes both twins were gay but the real interesting cases are when one is gay and the other isn't. That would mean that genetics cannot be the only defining influence on homosexuality....

You also said that if we can accept interracial marriage we should accept homosexual marriage. You make that comparison what sedition of race are you using ? Are to talking about the inherent part of race?

Side: Annya
1 point

There would be an increase of successful adoptions. There are millions of kids a year that are being put in foster homes because of financial issues, rape victims and many other reasons. Homosexual people are being denied the right to adopt a child just because “they can not play the part of a father or a mother”. Homosexual people don't constantly tell stright’s how to be parents. They don't claim if one is a good role model as a father or a mother, so why should hetrosexual people be the judge of this concept for homosexuals? Other than this very important point I explained above, hundreds of millions of little young foster kids would remain without an education, loving families and most importantly a place to call home.

Side: Annya
1 point

It's not only about about accepting homosexuals for who they are, it's also about promoting equality. Not only will it promote equality on the topic of love, but it can further promote equality between women and men’s superiority, racism all the way to freedom of speech for all of us. We as people have the capability to make a diffrence and either make this world a place for a suffering or an enjoyable adventure. I hope I made an honest impact on your view on homosexuals, continue spreading the love all around.

Side: Annya