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Debate Score:65
Arguments:26
Total Votes:100
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Should it be required for you to leave a note why you voted a debate up or down?

This is another issue brought up in the Townhall meeting.

Yes

Side Score: 33
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No

Side Score: 32

I think that leaving some kind of note that is not a full new argument would be a great because 1) it would help prevent karma bombing and 2) it would help the person improve their future arguments.

If you are worried about people getting mad there should be a way to make the comment anonymous.

Side: yes

I think that your suggestion to make the comment anonymous is good, except if then it gets really nasty with rude anonymous comments. Also, do you think that some people take down votes as a message to improve their debate technique? I would like to think so, but I think that some people just don't care.

Side: No

I'm not really good at taking hints. I need to be told flat out. ;)

Side: yes
2 points

The problem with your logic is when someone votes you down and does not leave a reason, they will never know what they've done wrong. You would have them guess at the message being sent by down voting and that's is simply unfair to the writer.

Side: No
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2 points

Yes, considering that a (-) or a (+) affects the argument's total score. Let's say there was a debate called "Cheese: Good or not?"

Now, twenty people said cheese was good. Ten said cheese was bad. A person who voted "bad" could vote down each and every one of the arguments for "good." And so, the final tally would be: Bad:10, Good:0.

Now, that ain't good.

Side: yes

A debate over a month old, last posts 12 and 45 days ago and I get two more down votes on 01-01-2009 from the anonymous toothless fairy. Happy New Year...I hope ya get run over by a bus.

Side: yes
-3 points
kirstie1126(480) Disputed
2 points

I don't think that CD can ever make the voting up and down crystal clear. Even if they do... there are going to be those who don't listen and do what they want any way.

Side: No
5 points

No, sometimes, it's not even an argument, just someone spamming or being stupid. Or, you can vote an argument down because you feel their argument has already been rebutted elsewhere in the debate. There's no need to have them make the same argument again.

However, I do think (and it was discussed at town hall) that there should be a list of predefined reasons for which one can down-vote an argument. Such as logical fallacies, spam, etc. Like tagging, it shouldn't be necessary, but if we practice it in general I think it would be more helpful.

Side: No
frenchieak(1131) Disputed
1 point

If those are the reasons for down-voting someone's argument, then why can't you just take a couple seconds to put that into a note explaining why you gave them the down vote?

Side: yes
sparsely(496) Disputed
1 point

because it adds to the overall debate/argument score counts, and I'm not going to spend my time replying to asinine shit. Vote down and move on.

Side: No
2 points

No, for the simple reason that there are many cases where there's really no explanation needed. I really liked the idea of optional "vote tags" where the voter could put one or two words in explanation for a vote. For anything beyond a few words an rebuttal should be more than sufficient to outline the argument's flaws.

Side: No
1 point

Does anyone els think its odd that you can downvote yourself? Why would you want to do that?

Side: No

I know the down vote portion is not greyed out like the up vote...usually that would indicate that particular portion actually is a viable option! No one in their right mind would do that to themselves. It's bad enough we've got this baboon doing what he/she is doing now.

Side: yes
0 points

baboon hahahaha

Side: No
0 points

If you said something that you later realized was dumb, offensive or untrue. I've done it before.

Side: yes
0 points

I don't think that a reason is needed for many reasons.

1) You have to leave a 14 character comment, so you cannot type some thing simple such as "Well said" when you want to vote some on up. This is why the pre-set selections for voting someone up for down that you can pick from would be great!

2) Some times you are voting down a comment so inappropriate and rude, that it does not even deserve a response. It not worth any more of my time that the single click it takes to give it a down vote.

Side: No

No, but I think that it is a nice gesture. Especially if you up-vote.

Side: No