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Yes it is horrible No not at all
Debate Score:67
Arguments:43
Total Votes:76
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Should marijuana be classified as Harmful?

 a debate aboute marijuana

Yes it is horrible

Side Score: 29
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No not at all

Side Score: 38
4 points

As a psychiatrist, I will have to say "yes" to this. Most people are, in reality, going to be able to smoke a joint with no ill-effects. They'll get ripped. Have a giggle. And then rape the refrigerator. But there is a sizable portion of the population for whom THC, the psychoactive ingredient in cannabis, causes enduring symptoms of intoxication and psychosis. Whats more, for reasons that aren't entirely clear, cannabis does seem to be addictive to some people.

These effects seem somewhat age dependent, so the younger you are when you first begin to experiment with cannabis, the more likely you are of experience an adverse reaction.

Another factor that should be considered is that the THC content of cannabis plants has increased something in the order of 200% since the 1970's due to hydroponic cultivation techniques and selective breeding of the hemp stock. Thus the weed we were smoking in my generation is now far more powerful than ever before. In short, what you're smoking today cannot be compared with cannabis in the 70's because your cannabis is that much more potent.

Side: Yes it is horrible
judas(295) Disputed
3 points

Thank you doctor Taqwacore for your medical insight. Do you think peanuts should be classified as "harmful" as well? They do kill 100 times more people annually.

How about aspirin? Most people are going to be able to take aspirin without "ill-effects", but aspirin does kill 7,600 more people every year than marijuana does. What have you to say about that?

Peanut deaths per year

Supporting Evidence: Facts on Marijuana: deaths per year (d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net)
Side: No not at all
Taqwacore(668) Disputed
6 points

While I'm disputing you, I'm also going to upvote you because you've constructed a really good counter-argument. I'd really love it if more people could argue like you!

OK, I'm calling a logical fallacy on this one. You're talking about peanut deaths and comparing it to marijuana deaths. However, my previous argument was not at all concerned with marijuana deaths; but marijuana-induced psychotic states. There are no peanut-induced psychotic states that I am aware of. Therefore, your argument constitutes a false dichotomy.

Still, it was a good argument, I'll give you that!

Side: Yes it is horrible
Taqwacore(668) Clarified
3 points

I think you can still trump me on this debate. While all that I'm arguing is that marijuana is harmful (one argument), I've also somewhat alluded to policing marijuana (second argument). Policing it or regulating it in some way might be even more harmful in a different way. You could argue that the societal and economic costs of regulating and policing cannabis use outweigh the societal and economic costs incurred by way of caring for those people with THC induced psychosis.

In other words, there are some holes in my argument that you could still exploit.

Side: Yes it is horrible
1 point

Go Judas! Preach it brother! ;)

Side: No not at all
Nox0(1393) Disputed
0 points

I'm sorry but Aspirin is not addictive and he's biggest producer isn't Taliban.

Nice pictures, what about references to some web? Preferably some peer reviewed research?

Side: Yes it is horrible

Whats more, for reasons that aren't entirely clear, cannabis does seem to be addictive to some people.

Everything can potentially be "addictive" to some people. I generally think of it more as habit forming. Some people can't sleep unless they read before bed. Some people get irritable if they don't get Chipotle for lunch. Some people compulsively pop tic-tacs. Does this mean reading, Chipotle, and mints are addictive?

Side: Yes it is horrible
1 point

It's not "horrible" but it does damage on brain and smoking pretty much any plant can give you lung cancer.

Side: Yes it is horrible
Quocalimar(6469) Disputed
3 points

What if it's ingested rather than smoking.

Side: No not at all
1 point

Than it does not. .

Side: No not at all
Nox0(1393) Clarified
1 point

Cooked in milk... it really works ...but after a hour you would want to kill yourself :D

Side: Yes it is horrible
1 point

It should because it can be harmful, just like any other drug. Furthermore, its popularity has risen and if its use is abused, people can get hurt.

Side: Yes it is horrible
5 points

Harmful compared to what. Everything is harmful in some way shape or form, if used incorrectly or even correctly.

I think as far as being able to kill you, it isn't and shouldn't be labeled as such.

The main argument I always see against marijuana is that inhaling smoke is bad for you no matter what, and that is an obvious statement. Though everyone that does marijuana don't always smoke it. It's sometimes cooked into foods and ingested.

Side: No not at all
4 points

I've been vaporizing marijuana extracts for quite some time. There is no smoke involved. What you inhale is harmless water vapor.

This process is not harmful to your health.

http://youtu.be/6Wsn0B3D6yw?t=43s

Supporting Evidence: http://youtu.be/6Wsn0B3D6yw?t=43s (youtu.be)
Side: No not at all
Nox0(1393) Disputed
1 point

You can do same with Heroin. Does it makes it any better? .

Side: Yes it is horrible
2 points

If we called weed harmful (weed) be calling everything with the potential to hurt anyone harmful.

Pillows are harmful, because you can suffocate someone with them.

Pianos are harmful because they can be dropped on your head.

Weed isn't harmful it just has some dangerous potential, but what doesn't. I can say this, no one has ever died from taking in too much weed. Zero ODs.

Side: No not at all
1 point

Dangerous Potential. I like that, that's a nice phrase. True too.

Side: No not at all
1 point

Dangerous Potential. I like that, that's a nice phrase. True too.

Side: No not at all
1 point

No, marijuana doesn't kill brain cells. It simply blocks brain receptors which hold brain cells appearing as if those brain cells was destroyed. A blocked brain receptor can be unblocked by playing strategist games such as chess. Also all marijuana does is realese the natural chemical in your brain "tetra hydro cannabinol."

Side: No not at all
Nox0(1393) Disputed
1 point

nice fallacy :D :D .

Side: Yes it is horrible
Kite626(714) Disputed
1 point

My statement is fallacy what so ever, look up the chemical that it realeses in your brain and how the effect of that chemical takes place in your prefrontal cortex and tell me what you think

Side: No not at all
Sitara(11082) Disputed
1 point

That kid has science on his side. Prove him wrong or step back and let the proffessionals handle this.

Side: No not at all
1 point

It depends on the person. It is not risk free, but it has so many health benefits.

Side: No not at all
1 point

I am so high... on coffee!

I think cannabis has loads of medicinal uses, and is an all-over wonderful and useful plant that we should invest more in.

Side: No not at all

Too many people are smoking it. It is time to take the stigma away from it.

Side: No not at all