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Debate Score:40
Arguments:39
Total Votes:40
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Should mirror punishment be used in today's society?

I know sometimes some crimes are either intensified or played down a little. Should we just have a system that only uses mirror punishment?

Yes

Side Score: 20
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No

Side Score: 20
2 points

Well.... if you're talking about chopping off the hand of a thief or cutting out the tongue of a liar, okay. But if you mean kill the mother of the guy who killed your mother... then no.

Side: Yes

Noo. Like of you stole a TV the value you lose property up to that value or something. Anything that is just near equal with the act.

Side: Yes
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
1 point

Why steal from a thief? That's not justice. If anything is to be taken though, why shouldn't it just be what was stolen rather than parts equaling what was stolen?

You say 'to steal something from the thief that is equal or near equal in value' but what about non quantifiable value? Like the value of sentiment? Or a more common reason for making the price of something increase, an item's historical value? What do you take from a person who steals an ancient artifact.

To be perfectly honest all of these questions are rhetorical, and the point I am trying to make from them is that there is a major flaw with mirror punishment.

Side: Yes

That doesn't make sense. If I steal $200 from you and you just get to steal it back, then I would keep stealing until you don't catch me. ;)

Side: Yes
Slengdu(121) Disputed
1 point

Justify your Saudi-style punishment system please. Morally justify such brutality as opposed to imprisonment.

Side: No
Hellno(17756) Disputed
2 points

It saves money and reduces crime.

Side: Yes

In regards to rape, who would carry out the punishment?

Side: No
1 point

Another perfect argument, I couldn't have put it better my self.

Side: No

You wouldn't conduct the same act. You punish by the intensity of the action. You do not necessarily commit the same act. You would jail them. Torture. Idk something the equalize, or to come to equalization, the crime to its consequence.

Side: No
2 points

Unless you want a nation of hypocrites, you shouldn't be enforcing hypocrisy as your means of punishment on them.

Side: No
1 point

You can't mirror a killer's crime. They leave at least one dead body, but at least one other living victim suffering the loss of the dead body.

You can't equally mirror the crime of a thief. At best you give back what the thief took, but that's not really a punishment as much as it is making amends. Or say the thief steals food, would you take their stool?

Side: No
1 point

Smoking marijuana in public is a crime even though marijuana is now legal here for recreational use. I do not see how you could mirror this, smoke it in their house instead of public? They would probably be ok with that...

Some crimes are impossible to mirror.

Side: No

You can't mirror a killer's crime.

Eye for an eye. Kill the killer. Death penalty. Capital punishment. Permanent removal from existence.

Side: No
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
1 point

In most murder cases their is at least one deceased victim, the one who was killed, and at least one living victim, the loved ones who miss the deceased. You can't mirror the crime of taking the killer's loved ones.

Side: Yes
1 point

Here's another example: What about child molesters?

Do you have a child molest them?

I'm sure that would work out great.

Side: No

No. You would give them a punishment equivalent to their crime. You don't necessarily have to commit the same act. Now if you cut someones hand off the same action would be committed.

Side: No