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Debate Score:52
Arguments:51
Total Votes:59
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Should police officers carry machine guns?

Yes

Side Score: 23
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No

Side Score: 29

Carrying a gun is carrying a gun. What's it's main purpose? To kill. A pistol and a machine gun can kill someone easily, even though a machine gun is a lot more effective. If you're a police officer, especially in a bad city, you should be carrying as much as possible, so you're able to SAVE as many people as possible. as for how much that'll cost, I don't know if I support that. also take into consideration how much power a police officer might think he has cause an angry power streak from a police officer with a machine gun is a lot worse than with a pistol. but most police officers, even in history, tend to abuse their power with batons and not pistols, when it comes to police brutality. Also, most police officers aim is to help people cause I know the pay doesn't do shit for them. I don't think they should JUST carry machine guns, because if that was the case, their accuracy, especially fired in automatic rounds could kill an innocent person. I think when it comes to the money though, to supply every cop with machine guns, is a lot of wasted money. Police officers In a good city won't need that much of a weapon but a police officer in Detroit, may. I think maybe the roughest cities should pack some extra heat. Most police officers use pistols though because it's really effective. They don't try to take on armies usually and they're usually going against one or two people that aren't armed. When the criminals are armed, they usually only need a pistol in order to get the job done or distract them enough so they can get backup, and usually backup is very effective, especially when they know what the criminals look like, and where they're going. It usually comes fast too. Usually a pistol is enough to protect yourself cause when it comes to gun vs gun, it's whoever gets the first shot off. that doesn't really matter to police cause they also stay protected, while the other people don't. Like I said, machine guns should only be carried by police if you're facing multiple enemies, and you need to hold yourself off till backup arrives. so I think the most dangerous cities in the world might wanna take that into consideration, to have their officers protect themselves, and the lives of others, better with heavier guns.

Side: Yes
DevinSeay(1120) Clarified
0 points

Carrying a gun is carrying a gun. What's it's main purpose? To kill.

True it's purpose is to inflict damage but as far individual characteristics they have a different purpose.

A pistol and a machine gun can kill someone easily, even though a machine gun is a lot more effective

Not to say more heavy and harder to carry around.

Other then that I agree mostly about other points that you brought up in your post.

Side: Yes

Yeah the heavy part of it I agree on, but if you really needed one ,and you're approaching a terrible situation then having one in your car will help in order to help yourself better. It's better having more power when you're in a position that you're standing in one spot anyway, trying to hold people off.

Side: Yes

If someone came into your house with a damn machine gun and you had a pistol, who would win? You would most likely be dead with that pistol. And to the person that got 4 points for saying "police are there to protect people, not massacre them". Would you rather get massacred or massacre? cause people that are firing their heavy duty ak 47's aren't going to go easy on you and that pistol is going to get you killed. that's why more cops are starting to carry heavier weapons. Too many cops die already from MURDERERS. Last time I checked, there's a death penalty for that.

Side: Yes
DevinSeay(1120) Disputed
1 point

Depends. Listen, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but that situation is not a video game. Realistically we don't know. Besides, it is illegal for citizens to have machine guns in most states.

I'm tried of the "machine gun vs hand gun" debate. It's pretty much pointless.

Side: No

Id like anyone right now tell me that they wouldn't feel safer with a machine gun in their car. Especially if you're in the countries worst city. would you bring a knife to a gunfight? The same thing applies to bringing a pistol to a machine gun fight. cops are barely protected these days and that's why a lot of em die. Cops put their lives in danger everyday. They have families to support and kids that look up to them. If a cop is in a dangerous situation with only a pistol, when he's facing a madman with a machine gun, then he's dead. Most cops in detrot and other bad cities now carry machine guns in their car to not only protect their lives but to help other people protect their lives.no one wants a cop least dominant in a bad situation. Unless the cop is a complete racist or corrupted by something. A cop is always at a disadvantage against a machine gun. That petty criminal with that machine gun will kill that cop, tear apart their family and the kids will wonder what happened to their father. All because he didnt match up against that dangerous criminal. Helping the cops in bad cities, I don't see what's wrong with that when they're by themselves for that period of time. A cop is here to protect people and themselves. How can they protect someone when they have weaker weapons then the opposing force? sure they have help when backup arrives but till then, they need to help themselves otherwise they have a high chance of dying. That's like an army equipped with pistols going against an army equipped with machine guns. Who's gonna die? same thing applies to individual situations. NO ONE wants the people that protect us.. At a disadvantage.

Side: Yes
-1 points

If a pistol can stop crime, with it's mere mention, then I imagine a machine gun can do tons better.

Side: Yes
0 points

Well since I was down voted I feel like I should clear this up.

What a pistol will do is keep people from committing the crime, or when they do, stop them cold, what a machine gun will do is stop them, their grandmother, their uncles and nieces, and tell the rest of the neighborhood "Don't fuck with us!"

We all know the police is a legal gang, they might as well be open about it.

Also, what's wrong with taking a 'Zero tolerance policy' on crime?

Side: Yes
Intangible(4933) Disputed
1 point

Because those criminals are still people.

Cops are here to serve and protect the people.

Side: No
5 points

Police are there to protect people, not to massacre them.

Side: No
westbfieldLa(22) Disputed
1 point

I don't agree with that. Obviously they're there to protect people. You're not understanding my words. if you're facing multiple hostile criminals, wanting to kill you, what're you going to do, slowly shoot them? If you're on the verge of dying, it's either kill or be killed. Trying to slow them down with just a pistol will get you killed easily if you have no one around you. Try standing behind a car with people shooting you and having multiple enemies pursue you to kill you so they can escape. What is a pistol going to do against 5 machine guns? It isn't hard to keep a machine gun in your car JUST IN CASE you need it. Police officers die when they're by themselves and the time you're by yourself to the time your backup arrives, might decide whether or not you live or die. carry a pistol with you and take out the machine gun when it's NECESSARY.

Side: Yes
Elvira(3447) Clarified
2 points

Usually they do a stakeout at the criminal's 'base', using tear gas and pistols. They very rarely shoot anyone. If there are many, out on the streets (terrible planning on behalf of the police), there may be cause to bring the army in. Police would be equipped with riot shields in such a situation, though. I can't imagine what kind of lunatic would send a lone police officer into somewhere where they are likely to be set upon by a gang, though.

Side: Yes
3 points

Not patrol officers but SWAT, maybe. Why do you need to suppress anyone? A machine gun's main reason is to suppress multiple personal.

Police officers with machine guns is a good way to get innocent civilians killed.

In short, no.

Side: No
westbfieldLa(22) Disputed
0 points

police officers with machine guns would obviously only fire when it's needed. There is no way they'll fire into a crowd of innocent people with a gun that powerful.. They have pistols for a reason. If a cop is in a situation with only a pistol and he's facing multiple enemies, like you said a machine gun is used for, then it's better having a machine gun. When cops face multiple enemies, with powerful guns and aimed to kill cops, what is a pistol going to do till their backup arrives? Not a lot. someone can easily rush you and kill you so they can make a quick escape. If you had a machine gun? I don't think many people will rush you with a bunch of bullets flying their way. Also cops have died plenty of times facing multiple enemies, waiting for backup. I think a machine gun might increase their chances of survival.

Side: Yes
2 points

No. They don't need to obliterate their target. Just shoot them to slow them down....geez

A machine gun would be excessive.

Side: No
westbfieldLa(22) Disputed
1 point

Try slowing multiple enemies down when you're by yourself with a pistol and no backup on you and they have heavy machine guns. If you shoot at a cop, Expect to die. A cop won't second guess it. They aren't going to put their lives at stake JUST trying to slow them down and not killing them. It's called self defense.

Side: Yes
Intangible(4933) Disputed
1 point

1.The Gun has more than one bullet

2. If the single cops puts his self in the open and tries to spray/shoot multiple enemies anyway he is wide open to get shot and his efforts would be in vain. So a pistol is enough.

As if the enemies won't scatter. You think they'll just be all clustered together?

Side: No
2 points

No pistols, tazers and pepper spray are fine. If the criminal they're after is notoriously dangerous get the dog squad or SWAT. Police aren't looking to slaughter the criminal if it does come to shooting the criminal they only want to temporarily cripple him so that they can arrest them.

Side: No
westbfieldLa(22) Disputed
1 point

If a cop is out there unprepared, what is pepper spray going to do against heavy guns?

Side: Yes
Vermink(1944) Disputed
1 point

Cripple their sight so they can't see where they're shooting, not to mention they still got tazers and a pistol. And if they are going after someone they know has heavy guns they'll send in SWAT or a dog squad.

Side: No
1 point

I think they are killing enough innocent people as it is already.

Side: No

1. Too Heavy

2. Too Expensive

3. Too much firepower

4. Demands too much maintenance

Side: No
westbfieldLa(22) Disputed
1 point

Didn't know a machine gun was too heavy for a car. Didn't know it was that expensive to supply this to the worst cities to select cars. Too much firepower? I would love to see how you react when you just have a pistol against people with machine guns. And To take care of the gun? not that much work to save a life. It's funny cause I'm Detroit now, some of the cop cars there carry m4a1's , heavy duty assault rifles. Why ? Because they'll die with only a pistol. See how well you do against machine guns when you just carry a pistol with you. You'll be dead. It's a lot easier to get machine guns these days and most criminals have em. Cops know this and this is why they carry heavier weapons. Do you bring a knife to a gunfight? No. Then don't bring a pistol to a machine gun fight.

Side: Yes
runderekrun(159) Disputed
1 point

Didn't you just say"we would have 36 big bullets in our chest,before we got the pepper spray out",so how many bullets would you have by the time you opened the boot and pulled out your weapon!!!!

Side: No
Centifolia(1318) Disputed
1 point

Didn't know a machine gun was too heavy for a car

A police car is too small to attach a machine gun and turn it into a technical.

Didn't know it was that expensive to supply this to the worst cities to select cars

A machine gun costs hundred thousand dollars. USA has plenty of states, every state has plenty of cities. It would take billions just to supply.

Too much firepower? I would love to see how you react when you just have a pistol against people with machine guns.

Cops carry small arms for patrol. If they cannot take care of the criminals, they have the right to call for SWAT team

And To take care of the gun? not that much work to save a life.

Its nice to have a moral reason behind you r actions. But maintenance of a gun also costs money. Counting all the MG that you bought, it can reach billions.

I'm Detroit now, some of the cop cars there carry m4a1's , heavy duty assault rifles. Why ? Because they'll die with only a pistol

I see no problem in that. Its not small enough to be overcome by criminals nor overpowered to cause damage to the city. And if ever the chances played in favor of the enemy, they could always call for Military assistance

Side: No
1 point

They're doing a pretty shitty job with their normal pistols and stun guns. Before we start issuing better guns, we need to issue better police. Then again, I don't even live in America so I'm only going on the news I see on the internet.

Side: No

I don't think they should carry any guns. Guns scare people and are evil.

Side: No