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No leave them alone Yes arrest those fuckers!
Debate Score:182
Arguments:102
Total Votes:241
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 No leave them alone (72)
 
 Yes arrest those fuckers! (39)

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Should sex between minors the same age be illegal?

The age of consent is 18 & having sex under that age is illegal. Whether it's with someone over the age of consent or if they're the same age as you.

Illegal means if you do it then the police will arrest you or do something else horrible.

Example: A 14 year old boy & a 14 year old girl are dating & really love each other. They go home & do stuff like making out, taking their clothes off, having sex, & sleeping naked together.
Should the government interfere with that?
Should the police arrest them & have them charged with having sex while under the age of consent?                                                                                                                                       Should their parents/guardians take the punishment for not watching them like a hawk 24/7?

The good side (No leave them alone) doesn't mean that you think it's okay or that you support it. You can be a religious anti-sexual who thinks it's evil but you live by the quote "I may disagree with how you live but I will fight for your right to live that way" & decide that even though you are against it you do think that it is not the government's buisness. The good side means you think that underage sex shouldn't be a legal issue. Just a personal issue.

I Evan Gragg do think it's okay for consenting minors to have sex. I am 16 & if I had a girlfriend I would do that stuff with her.

The bad side (Yes arrest those fuckers!) doesn't mean you just think it's wrong. It means you actually believe the police should arrest them & charge them with underage sex. It means you do believe that the government should interfere with them & have charges brought against them. If you vote for the bad side then you are just miserable. I label this as sexual fascism/totalitarianism. 

No leave them alone

Side Score: 107
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Yes arrest those fuckers!

Side Score: 75
3 points

No as long as they are the same age i dont see the problem with it and plus it's not like theres sexual abuse going on and if a screw up happens and the girl gets pregnant it's their fault.

Side: No leave them alone

The government should have nothing to do with people's sexual affairs.

That should be between that boy & that girl. Not that couple & the police!

Side: No they should be allowed
Kinda(1649) Disputed
2 points

Yep. Paedophiles and zoophiles should not be intefered with!!!

Side: Yes they are too young
0 points

pedophile is a grown man who rapes little kids.

& who gives a fuck about zoophiles?

What I mean is it should be the person's choice who to date & who not. Not the governments.

Side: No they should be allowed
MisterGuy(1) Disputed
0 points

This is a strawman argument. It is NOT what was proposed here by anyone, period.

Side: No they should be allowed
kamranw(232) Disputed Banned
1 point

You are an idiot. You think its ok that a 13 year old ends up pregnant? Plus, they are minors. They should have to live by the rules set forth by their parents and the law. What are you about 5 years old? You sound like a whiny baby who wants to be able to do whatever they want!

Side: Yes they are too young
CarlyKins(2) Disputed
2 points

Surely the trick is to educate young people efficiently so that they can defend themselves against the world rather than relying on laws to wash over a problem? The fact is that though there are rules, people break them. It happens all the time, everywhere, through all humanity and its varied environments. Just writing it off saying 'well it's illegal so they shouldn't do it' isn't helping anyone to deal with the potential repercussions of what is, essentially, a private thing between two people that we are naturally predisposed to do.

Young people need to be encouraged to take pride in themselves and take care of themselves, whether that's learning to make informed decisions about who they sleep with to knowing about protection and where they can go and who they can talk to if things do go wrong.

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

Im afraid you are the idiot here idiot! you want the police to control every aspect of our lives?

you want the government to tell us that we aren't allowed to have sex?

no its not good if a 13 year old ends up pregnant. But what if a poor middle aged woman gets pregnant? isn't that just as bad?

Who cares about the number of days they have walked the Earth! numbers shouldn't apply to this situation. What are you a brainwashed Hitler youth member or something?

you sound like a brainwashed dumbass who wants the government to do everything for them including controlling every aspect of their lives.

Side: No they should be allowed
MisterGuy(1) Disputed
0 points

There IS such a thing as safe sex yanno. I haven't seen anyone arguing for 5 year-olds to have sex BTW. That is another strawman argument.

Side: No they should be allowed
2 points

sex is a private thing that should not be decided by the government. if people have sex the right way when it is protected then there should be no problem. no matter what age u are there are woman getting pregnant because they dont practice safe sex. if you cant pratice it then your not responsible enough to have it

Side: No they should be allowed
2 points

I say no it should not be illegal, but that does not change the fact that too many kids are way too young to be engaging in sex acts. I personally think that having sex at a young age will lead to having more partners, more stds, more pregnancy, more stupidity selfishness and regret.

Side: No leave them alone

I have friends my age that have had sex & they're some of the nicest people I know.

You fascists who want them to get arrested or other just make me sick.

They do not deserve any of the shit you want to happen to them.

Side: No leave them alone
Kinda(1649) Disputed
1 point

This is the last time I'm gonna tell you.

Nobody wants to snoop in bedrooms. Nobody wants to arrest everyone who's had underage sex as that would mean most of the people in the country. Nobody wants them to go to jail.

Just cause you might think they're nice doesn't mean they can't break the law. lol. idiot.

Side: Yes arrest them!
1 point

Well by 53mins 19secs ago | Tagged As: Yes arrest them!

it looks like you do want the nazis I mean police snooping around in bedrooms.

it looks like you do want to arrest everyone who has underage sex.

were all sinners. so are you.

Side: No leave them alone
2 points

I mean how do you enforce that law? What are we going to have police hiding out in the bushes waiting for two 14 year olds coming home together and then bust through the door hoping to catch them. It's ludicrous.

Side: No leave them alone

Exactly man. You've got it.

Just leave the kids alone you fucken fascists!

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

The main reason I'm even say that I'm a conserative is my ideology of fiscal responsibility. Obama breaking the record on spending. GW not really a true Conservative in the matters of budget. kind of shattered that reputation for the Republicans. My main guy that I listen to and he is a genius on money is Ron Paul. I don't believe in all of his policies but when it comes to money and the economy he's the shit.

oh yeah stick to the debate. You can't make laws against teens near the same age that want to have sex. Anybody every read the book or see the movie 1984?

Side: No leave them alone
2 points

No,it shouldn't!........................................................

Side: No leave them alone
2 points

i think that if the same age couple want to have sex then let them reason why because there going to do it when there older!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: No leave them alone
2 points

I think this is absolutely ludicrous, as a 13-14 year old male, of course i know which side i am on in this debate, but, i understand the governments decision to illegalise underage sex. Why? To stop underage pregnancies and therefore teen parents, this could be avoided and it isn't. Because dumbarse dodos cant afford a condom or are just too thick to think of wearing one. What has happened now is that teenage girls are left with sexual tension, and are totally frigid. WEAR A FUCKIN CONDOM, then it will be legal.

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

The legal age of consent in victoria, australia is 16.

I'm 16 out of the 22 people in my class 15 have had sex. It doesn't matter what you say or even if it's illegal we'll still do it because were impulsive .

Side: No they should be allowed
veronica(53) Disputed Banned
0 points

Do you know how many people won't do it because it is illegal? Alot more than you think!!! Just because you and your whore friends get jacked all the time and it is illegal doesn't mean that you still should not do it. ~!

Side: Yes they are too young
3 points

Why do you want every fornicator to go to prison?

Are you a fascist or totalitarian?

Most kids don't even know it's illegal by the law.

What are you gonna do? put cameras in every square foot & send the SWAT team after every fornicator?

Side: No leave them alone
MisterGuy(1) Disputed
1 point

Calling people names does NOTHING to your "argument". When was the last time that you've ever heard of two minors being arrested for having sex?? Making something as harmless as safe sex "illegal" will just encourage more people to try it out.

Side: No they should be allowed
kamranw(232) Disputed Banned
0 points

That does not prove that it should be legal. It proves that it is not monitored or enforced properly.

Side: Yes they are too young
MisterGuy(1) Disputed
2 points

"Enforced properly"?? Do you really want the govt. insides people's bedrooms?? Please...

Side: No they should be allowed
1 point

I agree you should leave them alone, i mean the boy and girl are making the decision and if they want to have sex let them. If the guy doesn't wear a condom and the girl gets pregnant then it's their own fault and they should have to take care of the baby. :)

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

No it should diffidently be not illegal because the government has no right to tell us that we cant have sexual affairs with a boy and a girl. The government is already telling us that we cant even be married to the same sex and now they want us to wait until we are old enough that bull!!

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

In my opinion, actually maybe yes. In reality, no. That's just stupid. Of course it might be wrong morally or legally or what ever varying on state, but who REALLY gives a? If they minor gets the other one pregnant, it's their choice to do what ever with the child. Abortion, disowning, adoption... It's their problem, their choices. It should be at least ok for them to give it a try, it's more of a chance that they'll end up hating it anyways and never do it again. It's even more stupid if the parents get all hyperactive about it. I see if it gets super serious, but really? For police to get involved? Talk about embarrassing. You're all over the news. You might as well end it or change your name and move to a new country.

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

if two people have been together for a while and feel completely comfortable then why shouldn't it be allowed? weather you are 15 or 45 you could rush into sex and regret it later on in life. i think alot of people don't respect teenagers to make there own choice's after all if they know the problems that this may cause and about staying safe then there should be no law against it also the law understands that underage sex is going to happen weather its legal or not thats why they provide kids with the choice on contraception and sex education so young so its a bit of a pointless law.

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

i think you should leave them alone!!! its their lives, stay out of it, when to people love each other they shouldn't have to wait for a retard to say, your old enough now, go for it! they should be able to decide, and about the pregnant part, USE A CONDOM!!!

Side: No they should be allowed
1 point

no thats the gayest rule ever if they wanna go get fucked thats their choose if they should have to wear condoms tho

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

I think they should have sex dont uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

They should definitely leave us alone.

Some people think we are not old enough to make these "important decisions". We young people are human beings with working brains. The reason why there are so many std cases and teen pregnancies out there is because the very people against this are either too lazy, ignorant, and/or selfish to actually sit down, educate us about it, and make sex protection easily available in locations where we wouldn't find too embarrassing to visit. (Like a vending machine if you needed to sell them).

And if they decide to not protect themselves, and they get pregnant or get STD it's their fault, and they should have to suffer the consequences.

Some of them also don't realize that this "nobody under 18 (or 16) can have sex law" can contribute to depression, or low self esteem, like if the cops actually do arrest the male in the relationship for sex, and it was not rape and they both love each other.

However, in my opinion, the current age of consent laws should be replaced, with a more, anti-ageist approach:

1. The base of this law would be section based. There is a lower age section (13 - 17) and a higher age section(18 +). There also is a small combination in the middle for cases like a couple where the male is 17 and the female is 16 and the male turns 18 while the female remains 16 (16-19).

2.Nobody will be able to legally have sex with people in different age groups. (This prevents adult on minor abuse, which will still be illegal.)(EX. A 13 year old can have sex with a 17 year old, but can't have sex with anyone older.)

3.Because of either undetailed sex education or biased education("No sex until marriage." Done.) There should be a license for the minor group to have sex, to show that they have basic knowledge about it, and getting assurance that they really want to risk all the risks. These could be taken at schools, doctor's offices, or special sex clinics.

I believe that there are similar age of consent laws like this in Japan(minus the license) (The only place I know of) and they have some of the LOWEST teen pregnancy rates in the world. (SOURCE: http://www.unicef.org/pon96/inbirth.htm,) ) of course they may also have other moral values that contribute to this, but still, lowest.

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

I think its pathetic that the gov. should get involoved in sex lives. Just because its a law doesnt mean we wont break it, and teen pregnancy rates have probably gotten worse. Im 14, im completely in love with my boyfriend and i would do it wether the goverment said not to. They think they need to make laws just so police actually have something to do, and its pathetic. Every teenager has sex before 18. The average age in the usa for a girl to lose her virginity is 16, and a boy 17. so HELLLO? doesnt that tell you that their making it worse? see theres this thing called reverse psychology and since teens are quite rebellious they would do the opposite you say just because they hate following rules. If they gave us the freedom to have sex we would be responsible but they assume we cant handle it. If this wasnt a problem pregnancy rates wouldnt be so damn bad.

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

I think minors should be able to have sex underage without getting arrested.Some parents don't care what their childs act are so why bother.If they get prego its their fault. hello? condoms :) use it and some parents are protective so yeah it depends on who is raising you

Side: its their parents fault
1 point

The age of consent is 16 in England.

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

When it comes to debates like this, we should all remember what Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau said, “The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation.” Despite the fact that I am 15, what I do with my body, and with whom I do it, should not be my government’s concern. Now yes, I go to the extent of saying that I don’t think people should be have premarital sex, however, what people do in private is not my nor anyone else’s concern.

Side: No leave them alone

Actually the age is 18 only in some places, it's 16 in most states and 16 or under in most countries. But, to answer the question, consensual sex should never be against the law (if sending nude pics). Don't give me any nonsense that teens can't consent, that is simply a not true. I know I was fully aware as a teen and would never feel anyone had the right to make that choice as to whenI could have sex for me. Those consent laws do much more harm than good, criminalizing teens isn't protecting them.

Side: No leave them alone
5 points

Sex between / with minors has been made an illegal act by the society for very good reasons.. Sex is an important decision, and may have undesirable consequences in the long run for the minors and need the maturity of an adult for their own good.

Side: Yes they are too young
3 points

Great point!

Its interesting that we want to make all types of politically incorrect activities like smoking illegal because of the cost to society but no one seems to want to attach that logic to this activity!

Side: Yes they are too young
fepdebate(7) Disputed
3 points

so you are saying that back in the old days when people were getting married at 13 or 16 they should have gotten arrested, because they were obviously having kids together.

Side: No leave them alone
kamranw(232) Disputed Banned
2 points

I am a little confused as to why you tagged this as 'no they should be allowed'. Arent you supporting it being illegal?

Side: Yes they are too young
3 points

thanks for pointing out, yes, i have now changed the tag to 'yes they are too young ',

Side: Yes they are too young
BlackSheep(203) Disputed
1 point

And making them criminal helps this how?

I don't disagree it is important, but how is messing up the rest of their lives going to help them or society.

Side: No leave them alone
2 points

I say yes it should be illegal

But according to those who are for homosexuality the answer should be no.

Why?

Underage sex doesn't hurt anybody.

If two people want to do it they should.

Its their own bodies.

What they do only affects them.

As long as they practice safe sex..

Side: Yes they are too young
veronica(53) Banned
2 points

Kinda, you must be a homo. I don't really know or care. What I do know is that sex between minors, protected or unprotected should be illegal. ~! V

Side: Yes they are too young
MisterGuy(1) Disputed
3 points

Calling people names does NOTHING to further your "argument", period. Stop it.

Side: No they should be allowed
2 points

Thats it. Im tired of you fascist totalitarians poisoning my debates.

Im just gonna ban you for your fascist ageist views.

Side: No leave them alone
1 point

So if a 14 year old buy & girl have sex you think the police should arrest them? what kind of sick bastard are you?

Side: No they should be allowed
2 points

You have to think about why this law would be created in the first place. Anything to try and cut down on the number of teen pregnancies and STDs I'm all for. There are good intentions behind this law even if it is hard to enforce. Teens make very stupid and immature choices all the time. Billions of dollars are spent every year on costs related to teen pregnancy. The only way i can see this really being enforced is if the parents were to press charges. Still I'm sure many minors would think twice about having sex if they knew jail was a possibility. I know if it was my daughter and the guy was trying to skip out I'd press charges in a heartbeat. No matter how much you guys argue against this law it's still in place in many places, so deal with it fuckers!

Side: Yes arrest those fuckers!

the reason it is illegal is that it spreads disease it causes turmoil and it is inappropriate adn the government should be able to decide

Side: Yes arrest those fuckers!
1 point

"arrest those F*ers"? Really?! They should put a tighter leash on the use of inappropriate words on this site.

Anyway, yes it should be illegal. In fact fortification of all kinds should be illegal.

Supporting Evidence: This is why. (www.unification.net)
Side: Yes arrest those fuckers!
1 point

I'm not sure arresting would be appropriate, it isn't going to help anyone, however by the same token, you are obviously immature and have no grasp on the consequences of your actions. This is why ages were set for consent. If your minor girl friend gets pregnant, are you willing to marry her, and without a high school education supporting her and the baby is going to be tough. Your job qualifications are manual labor, the cost of having a baby easily exceeds $5000 these days. Most areas of the country rent exceeds $600/month, not to mention utilities, etc., etc. Many grown up and responsible adults are struggling to meet their needs, even some of those with an education. If you are willing to marry her, then get approval from both parents, yours and hers and marry the girl, then you are not doing anything illegal. Let's ask you a question, if you were to get married and the girl you were marrying refused to have sex until marriage, would you trust her more or less than a girl who wanted to hit the sack with you on the first date? If the answer you give is the same as or less, then you obviously have some growing up to do. Your actions have consequences that you have obviously not thought through. If you do indeed have sex out of marriage, especially as a minor still in school, (assuming you have not dropped out), then your immaturity is obvious and is exactly why you should not be having sex, and you are the reason why an age of consent is in place, and some people are not mature even at the age of 18, 25, even 35, but most at these ages have graduated and will live with the consequences of their actions, but at least they can get a job and try to support their decisions.

Side: Yes arrest those fuckers!
1 point

If the age of consent law says that a person under the age of 18 doesn't have the maturity or emotional security to have sexually intercourse then yes it should be illegal. The parents should have the right to press charges on the fact. There shouldn't be any gray area with the law, it's a yes or a no.

Side: Yes arrest those fuckers!
Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

Wrong. The government does not have the right to dictate what people do with their bodies.

Side: No leave them alone
Tennpenn(6) Disputed
1 point

Yes they do when what people do to their body cost me money!

Side: Yes arrest those fuckers!
kamranw(232) Banned
0 points

There is a legal age limit for a reason. People often regret decisions they made rather hastily as a teenager. Also, teen pregnancy is currently a huge issue. If you make it OK to have sex underage this problem will only get worse. Teen pregnancy is also proof that many underage are not ready to make a responsible choice.

Side: Yes they are too young
BlackSheep(203) Disputed
1 point

No one is saying that is not something that needs to talked about and make clear how serious it is, but arresting people will not serve anyone.

Side: No leave them alone
-2 points
Kinda(1649) Disputed
4 points

lol just because it's illegal doesn't mean they're going to be arrested. It's one of those laws which are there to deter, but nobody gives a shit about. Like speed limits.

Side: Yes they are too young
kamranw(232) Disputed Banned
2 points

HAHAHA. You think every law is enforced by jail time? There are other ways of enforcing a law. Public service etc

Side: Yes they are too young