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There is nothing unethical about stem cell research. Except to those like you who seem to have some big misconceptions about it. And who let their religious zealotry cloud their understanding of it.
Murdered Children? Please. Only a small percentage of stem cells come from embryos. Most of the SC's used are from adults--and from bone marrow.
Besides.....An aborted embryo the size of your fist with a brain the size of an almond is not a child. It is not even an infant. And those fetuses are NOT being aborted for their stem cells. The aborts happen anyway, so why not use the results to save future lives and increase medical science which will help mankind in the future?
Here are some things you need to understand about SCR before you go accusing it of being unethical.........
The answer was given by Galileo many years ago: "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same GOD who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forego their use," Whether or NOT you believe in a "god" is irrelevant. Any way we can improve our species, and, of course ANY species of our world, we MUST explore it. Some would have people believe there are those who "kill of babies" for research. No. That is against ALL reasonable law! But to WASTE an already dead fetus is more than stupid, it's disgraceful! Why "dispose of" a dead fetus, with NO benefit to the world when it could save lives (or suffering), and therefor not have existed in vain!??
Any one who knows me knows me as a compassionate person. Also as a realist (depending on your point of view).
Apparently, you think we SHOULD forego sense, reason and intellect .... the way YOU do. Sorry, I'm not made that way. I don't "follow" Galileo, I just admire his sense, reason and intellect. Many people are "dead", including the Emperor Constantine, who is responsible for most of the Bible that you follow. It was NOT written by "God" or Jesus, it was written by scrounging up the words (and myths), of DEAD PEOPLE.
I think you should reason with God regarding your sin and come to His terms so you can find mercy and not burn in Hell forever. If you won't, you are being unreasonable, acting without common sense and wasted intellect.
Jesus is the way. He is God, there is no other way to get out of death and be saved from Hell. You go your own way if you want to and see what it gets you.....you'll get what you deserve going your own way, and if you think God owes you a favor to allow you to exist outside of Hell, you are void of reason.
I sincerely appreciate your thoughts about my welfare ... sincerely. However, at this late date I cannot become a hypocrite. I "sincerely" can see nothing to convince me that there IS a "god", or that Jesus was more than the Billy Graham of his day (a day when many "gods" were believed in, good and bad). THAT I consider a failure to communicate effectively by either variation of this super "god". I mean, how have so many millions of Muslims gotten the wrong message? So many Mormons? So many "others" that believe differently from YOU?? If you want people to believe you MUST communicate! So far I rate Donald Trump as good at convincing people to follow HIM, as this alleged "god". (Albeit, on a smaller scale).
"a god" is a created thing. God is who created all things. The "god" or "gods" you say are not God indeed are not God, they are your own absurd straw men who do not exist. You create straw men and then say they are not God. Of course they are not God. Duhhhhhh.
A failure to communicate.........hahahaha............ nobody can communicate with a person who will not hear.
Even pro-life people can support stem cell research. Embryonic stem cells can be collected without harming a fetus. So this doesn't even need to be a pro-life vs pro-choice debate. Stem cell research is in the category of any other medicinal science and is perfectly ethical.
Even if I say no, it won't matter. Human beings always do what they think of. It's only a matter of time we'll start cloning humans, harvesting organs, etc. Stem cells apparently have incredible healing properties....people have used them already to inject in their bodies in certain areas that need recovering and they found it has made them heal quicker like a superhuman, it's crazy what stem cells are capable of doing for us and humans will not let ethics stop them forever.....as i said, it's human nature to rebel and break every code of ethics or morality there is......after all that's how it all started with adam and eve right? It's encoded in our dna to rebel.
God makes the rules, you broke them, you die. All fornicators will have their place in the Lake of Fire. God rules. you lose if you insist that you rule.
Do you think you are the Messiah? The Bible DOES NOT say that all fornicators go to hell. If they accept Jesus Christ they are saved. You are taking your own words and saying them as if they were the word of God. Before I thought you were just an idiot but now I see you are something far more dangerous. You are evil.
Hi Monkey, learn your Bible before you talk about what it says......and get saved before you wake up in Hell if it's not already too late for you which by your own words I believe it is.
1st Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Hi cheapo. Maybe death will get you out of your misery and you won't fry like an eternal sausage in Hell.....that's your false hope, isn't it? You love death, you revel in the suffering of others as you blame God for pain and suffering, very smart of you....I suppose you will blame God for your death, and blame God for your inability to get out of Hell.
I think I have figured you are.. you know the Bible but yet you conduct yourself completely contrary to it. You are a satanist aren't you? That's why you like to make jokes about people cooking like sausages; act like you are the messiah misrepresenting God's word and treat people so badly.
I have a question for you: if satan is real, why would he pick you to be his right hand man?
God makes the rules, you broke them, you die. All fornicators will have their place in the Lake of Fire. God rules. you lose if you insist that you rule.
All fornicators will have their place in the Lake of Fire. God rules. you lose if you insist that you rule.
Do you think you are the Messiah? The Bible DOES NOT say that all fornicators go to hell. If they accept Jesus Christ they are saved. You are taking your own words and saying them as if they were the word of God. Before I thought you were just an idiot but now I see you are something far more dangerous. You are evil.
Hi Monkey, learn your Bible before you talk about what it says......and get saved before you wake up in Hell if it's not already too late for you which by your own words I believe it is.
1st Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Humans have been doing evil shit for millennia. Particularly you religious fuckers.
Tell me, was your grandmother religious? She probably was. Did she die of some degenerative disease or illness? Probably. Testament to your God's love xD
You have tried, but your condemned to die and your evil will be confined in Hell where it won't affect the living any longer. Jesus conquered death and those who believe on Him will live with Him, you will die alone on Hell rejected by Him as He is rejected by you. Idiot.
no Jungle really makes some valid points. and he might not be condemned! who know, he might end up being Saved like I was. when I was an atheist I acted just like he does. even worse. you should not condemn people or judge them. that is God the Creator's job not yours. you are guilty of the sin of Arrogance and judging and demeaning your brother. you better check that plank in your eye saint.
How old were you when you were a one week old fetus? And by the way, the dictionary used to define "fetus" as "unborn child". You talk like when you were a fetus, you were a worthless blob. When did you become worth more than a fetus? Why shouldn't you be aborted now, they can just say you were supposed to be aborted when you were a fetus but you slipped through the cracks.
I wasn't a worthless blob.. I mean, that blob could have been used for stem cell research ;)
Also all this talk of abortion has got me thinking, if your so-called God had half a heart, he'd have aborted you long ago. The fact he left idiots like you alive proves he's not this benevolent being you parade him to be.
Seriously though, even if you were the only son I would ever have, I would still encourage my wife to drink bleach lest you should turn out as malformed as you have :)
God is not benevolent toward evil, evil can only see God as being evil and that is your problem...the evil in your hear which wants to be excused of the evil things you do. God is not benevolent toward sodomy or women abusing their bodies with other women, and His wrath abides on those who refuse to repent of their sin and believe on His Son who died for them. God is good. That is not the same as "omnibenevolent" which is a Catholic invention. How could God be good if He did not hate evil? How could God be good if He does not punish evil?
You were you from the moment you were conceived. Your mother did not abort you because she loved you (I assume she loved you, maybe she just wanted to bring evil into the world and she trained you that way). Abortion is murder, and you are guilty of murder by association when you make excuses for it. Sure the laws allow you to murder babies. There is a higher law, and you will answer to the Judge in that court, like it or not, believe it or not.......you're on death row.
Suffering is on all of us because of sin. People who hate God love death. If you want to die, there's something wrong with you.
Most people who hate God and love death still try to forestall death at least as long as they have their creature comforts.
By your own words I know you are in rebellion against God and willfully separating yourself from Him in preference of your sin. You cannot approach God when you will not repent of your sin. This is not "calling God's judgement for Him", it's simply observation. I see what you are doing and I know God is against all sin. You have made it clear you have no intention of repenting of your sin, so it is clear that you are in condemnation and will not find mercy.....unless you will repent of your sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ......but you repeatedly make it clear that you love your sin more than life and that's on you.
