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As someone in a nation with universal health care, the best part is simply knowing that more or less no matter how bad you fuck up, you have a safety net (in most cases) to stop your minor injury costing you $10000. Yes it may raise taxes, and cause a bit larger of a back log, but the peace of mind knowing that if you screw up an hurt yourself, you (probably) won't have a huge bill at the end of it.
My wife, being uninsured, just recently had trouble passing a kidney stone. The whole endeavor lasted nearly a month, comprised of three hospital visits and two emergency visits, and a few outpatient x-rays. All my wife received in this time was a stint, and the stone passed by itself at the latter point of this time period. By keeping us waiting and readmitting us time after time, theses hospitals were able to bring to fruition about $32,000 of debt, (including outpatient xrays). Yeah I'm totally okay with universal health care. The prices they charge are fucking ridiculous for what they actually do. Oh, and maybe if education wasn't so expensive, medical degrees would be easier to obtain, and doctors wouldn't charge you out the asshole. Just a thought.......
1. If you didn't have insurance, that's your fault.
2. Education costs so much because of government loans and pell grants. When most kids get out of high school they say "the tuition is to high, ill sit this year out, maybe come back next year" and then someone says "well, since you have no credit, you can get a loan from the government" and then this guarantee's that colleges will get the overpriced fee they charge without really having to compete.
Get rid of government intervention in college loans and more people will start deciding not to go to college right after high school or even at all, and when that happens, colleges will be forced lower their prices.
Insurance if not provided by an employer is fucking expensive. Whether or not we purchase health insurance is the difference between whether or not we can afford an apartment together. Yeah it's pretty easy to say shit when you have the money, but don't act like you have any idea what it is like to be where we are at.
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I think you'll find the cost of college is parallel to their useless spending on facilities that provide, say, washing machine automated text services, fantastic foods, and let's not forget FOOTBALL and all other sports which are all the means to prestige.
Insurance if not provided by an employer is fucking expensive. Whether or not we purchase health insurance is the difference between whether or not we can afford an apartment together. Yeah it's pretty easy to say shit when you have the money, but don't act like you have any idea what it is like to be where we are at.
If you cant pay for, then you don't get it unless there is a charity for it. You see, resources have value, if you do not have the value to pay for these resources and no one is willing to donate them to you, then you don't get them.
I think you'll find the cost of college is parallel to their useless spending on facilities that provide, say, washing machine automated text services, fantastic foods, and let's not forget FOOTBALL and all other sports which are all the means to prestige.
It doesn't add up. If they weren't guaranteed government loans they would be forced to lower their prices. And if you go to college, unless you majored in sports, you should be focused on your major, not football.
I don't maybe its because I prefer to mosh rather than play with balls, but I don't see football worthy of taking up half the budget.
If you cant pay for, then you don't get it unless there is a charity for it. You see, resources have value, if you do not have the value to pay for these resources and no one is willing to donate them to you, then you don't get them.
The thing is, most people in the world (and in America) don't want to live in a society where how much money you make determines if you or your children lives or dies. Even if that means we have make a personal sacrifice in our own lives (money or personal freedoms), so be it. I WANT part of my hard earned money (self employed so about 30% of it) to go to help someone who needs life saving medicine. It's a pretty easy choice. Shiny new Mercedes in my drive driveway, or helping to pay for a little girls Cancer treatments. Little girl wins every time in my book.
You really don't know how insurance works in this country, do you? It's not always the fault of the person for not having insurance... but you don't know this.
No, education doesn't cost more because of pell grants! Are you KIDDING me? Wow.
You really don't know how insurance works in this country, do you? It's not always the fault of the person for not having insurance... but you don't know this.
If you choose not to get insurance that's your fault, end of story.
No, education doesn't cost more because of pell grants! Are you KIDDING me? Wow.
i) According to The Children’s Defense Fund, every 42 seconds a child is born in the U.S. without healthcare.
ii) There is nothing for these kids to do if their parents cannot afford good health care.
iii) 450,000 babies are born prematurely each year in the U.S., it is very expensive to keep these baby’s alive, and if the family doesn’t health care it can be extremely disastrous (by Larry McGraph).
iv) It is not fair if a poor four-year-old girl cannot get the surgery she needs just because her parents, who have made mistakes, cannot afford it.
v) If a kid inherits a lot of money from his parents and is able to buy very good health care this shows that America doesn’t care as much about its poor population. It sets up a caste system where people who have more money live longer and people who are poorer live shorter lives.
vi) This sets a huge inequality where the spoiled city brat is not sick a day in his life while the poor country boy gets polio.
vii) What if a man cannot make a lot of money because of a disease he has, and then passes the disease down to his son who doesn’t inherit a lot of money so he can’t fix the disease either? The viscous cycle then goes on and on with no hope of escape.
viii) What universal health care does is it evens the playing field. It tells the poor city boy who lives in one room apartment with five brothers and sisters that his life is not unimportant compared to the rich suburban boy. It tells the poor little girl whose parents are jobless that she too will be cared for, that her life still matters even though she is poor. And it lets the father struggling with bills that can't afford much because of his rare disease, know that if it gets worse someone is there to take care of him- so he can in turn take care of his family. Universal health care gives the poorest, down-on-their luck person the same natural right of life.
The question of whether the United States should have universal health care is a complex and debated topic. Universal health care refers to a healthcare system where every resident of a country has access to medical services, regardless of their income or social status.
Advocates of universal health care argue that it can provide several benefits:
Equitable access: It ensures that everyone, regardless of their financial situation, can receive necessary medical treatment.
Cost containment: A well-designed universal healthcare system may lead to lower overall healthcare costs by streamlining administrative processes and negotiating lower prices for medications and services.
Preventive care: By providing access to regular check-ups and preventive care, it may help detect and address health issues early, leading to better health outcomes and potentially lower long-term costs.
Improved public health: With more people having access to healthcare, it could lead to healthier communities and reduced spread of infectious diseases. For more Medical Supplies Online visit this website
Of course we should. We pay for fire and police, right? Why would you NOT care about yours or your neighbor's health, but instead care more about their house catching on fire or crime to them? People are stupid to say "no".
Universal health care is an oxymoron because it only leads to high costs with little to no care. Plus, if the government pays for your health, then it can certainly control all decisions of life, which means more bureaucrats.
Yeah prayerfails fails to to provide any kind of decent argument. I would love to see some evidence that the government would provide "little to no care" and "control all decisions of life". Im guessing these statements are just based on your preconceived notions which are hurting your ability to use objective thinking on important issues.
With little to no care is fairly self explanatory considering government only has limited resources, so it must choose between who gets care and who doesn't where a small minority are paying for the bulk at large.
Where are you getting your information? It does not make any sense. People pay in to the system, so the government absolutely has the resources. It does not need to choose who does and does not get care any more than any other system?
Bullshit most of EU countries has national heath care programs. They are very effective and on higher level that extremely expensive private medical health care available in US.
Private health care is expensive only because of government intervention in mandates. If private care was left alone, it would be significantly cheaper due to competition.
The problem with private care is they cherry pick their ideal customer and everyone else either can't get insurance at all (preexisting condition) or has to pay much much more (old). The free market has had a long long time to do the right thing. People are tired of waiting.
The free market has never existed in the health care industry whether service or insurance, so we only see what plans fail created by the central planners only for them to call for more plans as seen with Obamacare, and when fails, the planners will be back at again.
Insurance was never met to cover everything under the sun.
What "under the sun" illness are you OK with not being covered for?
Proving care for illness is what health care is about, contraceptives and preventive pregnancy is not health care. Insurance is protecting from the uncertainty in life, and pregnancy is not uncertain, women get pregnant every day.
Can you provide some unbiased links to information about how government intervention has caused the problems in the health insurance industry?
About 20 or so articles detailing how government health care will destroy it. The best article is Government Medical Insurance by Murray Rothbard.
Contraceptives seem like a good preventative measure? The health care costs of having a baby are huge. Its like any other preventive care that is provided. Pregnancy certainly is uncertain just like any other illness. I'm not sure what point your making with women get pregnant every day? Women get cancer every day so...?
Your link is from an extremely right leaning source. If all you read is stuff from hard right leaning sources, your not getting the full picture. The right is right, the left is left. Truth is somewhere in the middle.
If contraceptives are preventive, it is not health care, health care is only for the uncertainty in life like cancer. Preventive care is avoiding health care costs by limiting the uncertainty in life.
Pregnancy is not an uncertainty, it happens everyday by people choosing to have sex, some even plan for pregnancy fertilization, cancer is uncertain, nobody chooses to get sick, this is what insurance provides, protection. The costs associated with pregnancy are controllable by safe sex or abstinence.
Those are not extremely right leaning. Mises Institute is not a policy think tank, it is merely a educational entity for liberty. Wrong, the truth is never in the middle, it is in liberty, left, right and middle implies the use of government force.
Why should Pre-existing conditions be covered? That's like having a totaled car, then getting car insurance and demand that they pay for it. The free-market has no had enough time, it was not that long after we started using modern medicine that all these mandates came into play.
Pre-existing conditions need to be covered because if you loose your health insurance, want to change jobs (loose your employer provided insurance) or just want to dump the crappy insurance you have, you need to be able to walk in the door, with all your conditions, and get new insurance. People are (were) held captive right now because they cant change insurance providers.
I agree that you can't wait until your sick to get insurance which is why the government will mandate that you buy insurance and pay in to the system when your healthy. It's too bad private insurance never got together and did something like this. The reason being is its almost impossible to organize something like that between so many competing companies, and its not the best way to do it if your trying to provide the biggest returns to your investors.
Most of EU countries are bring destroyed by a bureaucratic semi-socialist government and whenever the nation tries to cut spending, the people riot against the nanny state. We shouldn't try to be more like Europe, everything the government touches turns to shit, you want the touching your healthcare?
College education is good? Alright, tell me more about how over-priced education with pompous professors that will fail students who disagree with them and work together to get professors that are actually good at what they teach fired so that they don't look bad isn't bad? Tell me about how spending 4 years and $200,000 on a piece of paper that means almost nothing (and no, you don't learn shit in college, if you talk to the average college student they don't learn anything) so that now you get to start off your life with a debt the size of a home mortgage is good for you.
Maybe you should stop just writing these little short responses and present an actual argument...
You fell for Faux News talking points. In no way would the government make such decisions. And what about all other developed countries that have single payer healthcare? You really don't know what's going on enough to make that statement.
No, universal health care ends up making health care universally poor. Ask anyone who lives in a country withh universal health care for their opinion. They will say it doesn't work.
No, no, no and hell no! I lived with socialized universal healthcare in the UK for two years...it was great if you had a cold. They gave you all the meds free. It sucked if you were really hurt or sick. I got really sick and flew back to the US to get real healthcare!
Local and state government is the same as the federal government Ted?? The federal government does not have that responsibility, you need to read the constitution. Your mentality is what will bring the U.S. to its knees, you and the rest of half baked generation want to vote themselves privileges right from the treasury. If you cant take care of yourself then go to a church or some other organization that is specifically set up for that purpose. The U.S. government is to protect the rights of the people afforded to them by the constitution, health care is not a right.