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Debate Score:41
Arguments:17
Total Votes:43
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Should the United States withdraw from the United Nations

Yes

Side Score: 5
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No

Side Score: 36
1 point

I do not consider pouring water on anyone,torture.

NO broken bones, no scars, no nightmares. ask Sen.MC Cain

what torture is, he has been there ,done that.

A ten yr.old could survive Water boarding, scare the crap out of him,but he would wake up the next morning, have breakfast

and walk to school.

Side: yes
Awen27(541) Disputed
1 point

How would you know whether or not there are nightmares? It gives the sensation of drowning, and makes a person unconcious.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15900592

^A description of waterboarding from someone who has been put through it. I know it doesn't sound like much when he describes it, but if you consider the fact that he ended up lying to just get it to stop, and that it made it so he couldn't breathe, I think you can see that it is torture. Maybe not the worst torture possible, but still torture, and that is not acceptable. I'm not an expert, but considering that pretty much everyone except for one president's administration considers it torture, it's torture unless other findings are....found. x]

Side: No
1 point

Yes! Withdraw from United Nations and withdraw from Iraq, thank you!

Side: yes

The United Nations is funded and founded by sovereign nations, so any involvement surrenders sovereignty and succumbs to international government.

Side: Yes

The rest of the world has no say in our affairs. We need to kick the bums out. They hate us anyway, why would you give control of your country to your enemies. That is what UN is trying to have, control.

They say it stops wars. HA! look at all the wars going on now. You know what stopped a war? 2 NUKES in 1945!

Side: Yes
0 points

Yes......... And boot them out of NYC too.......

1: No to any taxes imposed by the UN....

2: No to our soldier's wearing the blue helmet...

3: No to our people being held responsible to the UN...

4: No to our citizens being held accountable to the UN courts...

Side: yes
5 points

Why are you against global cooperation?

Don't you understand that the only way to keep peace in the world is to work with other nations? We my have to make a compromise here or there, but at the same time we can make sure that dictators don't kill hundreds of thousands of their citizens, make sure that people's basic human rights are respected, and ensure that industries in foreign nations don't destroy our planet.

Like it or not we all live on this earth together, and the more we cooperate with each other the better our stay will be.

Side: No
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
5 points

1. U.N. doesn't impose taxes on us. And they have no other power over us other than what we choose, that's kind of the point of the whole thing.

2. Our soldiers don't wear blue helmets, least not when they're at war.

3. Our people aren't held responsible to the UN, but they should be held responsible to contracts we sign... like say torture:

Torture in all forms is banned by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), which the United States participated in drafting. The United States is a party to the following conventions (international treaties) which prohibit torture: the American Convention on Human Rights (signed 1977) and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (signed 1977; ratified 1992). It has neither signed nor ratified the Inter-American Convention to Prevent and Punish Torture.[2] International law defines torture during an armed conflict as a war crime. It also mandates that any person involved in ordering, allowing and even insuffuciently preventing and prosecuting war crimes is criminally liable under the command responsibility doctrine.

4. Again, they're not.

So, it seems to me you just made a bunch of stuff up. Which makes you pretty much 100% for just making stuff up so far on this site. Congratulations.

Side: No

I agree 100% David. One wonders where they get this stuff from!

Side: No
8 points

Every nation should be a member of the UN. It's important for peace, the global economy, global diaster relief, and the environment.

It's like a home owners association. No, you can't have your lawn knomes, but you bitch ass neighbor can't have her ugly flamingos or a crocodile in the backyard, either. So the value of everyone's home stays up.

Side: No

I loooooooooooooove the homeowners analogy PA!!! Too much, LOL!

Side: No

Oh please no. Then we'll just be running even more amok all over the globe, like a child with a too-big playground.

Side: No
4 points

Fighting with the U.N. or pretending to be higher than the U.N. would be really bad for foreign affairs. No matter what we do now, no matter how we separate, we will be drawn back together and there will be a world government. There is no way around it. No one nation will lead, so having an external government that all governments and nations are covered by, is the best solution.

The more you fight it the more you will alienate yourself from the world community.

Side: No
1 point

No. I believe in attempting to find common ground across the globe, and settle things peacefully. If we walk out, it will make a statement to the rest of the world that we don't want to try.

Side: No

The UN came into being so the entire world would be able to solve their conflicts reasonably. Leaving the UN would do nothing more than alienate from the world we seek to make peace in and have human justice prevail.

Side: No
1 point

Nah

Side: No

The United States should stay but be more stringent about imposing sanctions on countries that are violating Human Rights.

Side: No