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Should the children of criminals be given the death sentance

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No. My father to my knowelege was never convicted, but he was a criminal. Why do I have to die. It is between Yeshua, and me.

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Correct. We are not responsible for the sins of others. We can help each other develop though and encourage each other to be better. Just as Jesus taught, "Love one another as I have loved each and every one of you." - Jesus of Nazareth, the King of Kings and Messiah of the Holy Book.

Catholics think augustine's doctrine of original sin was canon and they still probably do, thinking that babies are born sinful. It's just not true. They claim that Adam and Eve's sin makes us responsible too. But no. They are wrong and still remain wrong to this day.

Side: No
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No. I'm curious what brought this question on, can you explain?

In the past, and in some ....backwards (That may be too harsh a word).... cultures, family members have been punished for the crimes of their kin or parent, but unless they actively took part in said crime they shouldn't bear the burden of the criminal.

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Nomoturtle(857) Clarified
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It's an argument I heard regarding abortion, when aborting the child of a rapist. I've always thought that abortion should be allowed for such circumstances, but also came across this and thought it an interesting argument. It's posited in a way that no liberal would disagree with, inherited sin is obviously wrong. I think the reason most people agree with aborting children of rape is because of the lack of consent from the mother, and that's certainly valid.

But I also rarely see any credence given to the position of the child being aborted, so this argument seemed quite offputting to me. From the child's perspective, it is a child born from an immoral action, but why should they suffer or be killed for that? They had no choice in the matter either.

Side: Yes
Mint_tea(4641) Clarified
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Interesting argument for it. In regards to rape I would argue that forcing the woman to continue with her pregnancy would be kin to torture. Yet again, she is being denied rights to her own body by someone else and is denied the right to say no. While no child has a choice in being born and is innocent from the sins of the parent (in this case the rapist), there is another will at power here and that is of the Mother.

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Should the children of criminals be given the death sentance

What an absolutely absurd question. That would wipe out the entire population of Australia.

Side: No
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Are children guilty of the sins of his/her father or mother or both? No. Sons and daughters do not often follow in the footsteps of their parents because they want to be different and unique. Sometimes, it is to be better in some way to "restore the family's honor" due to many mistakes made by their parents. However, do you think it is right for children to murder their parents? Like what Ted Bundy did? No. I am a son of a father and a mother who have obviously shown to not be perfect. But does that mean I am guilty of their mistakes? Not even close. My dad recently got into alot of debt and he wanted my mother to pay that amount. Yet is it our responsibility? No. My mother explained to my dad he needs to take responsibility for his own mistakes. Heck, it was a Sunday when this first occurred. I was laying down on the couch, thinking to myself about life and I overheard my father wanting to invest money. Strange how it occurred on the Sabbath Day eh? Yes. God works in mysterious ways. Apparently, there was a thunderstorm that day and He spoke spiritually in my heart and said, "Do not worry for your sins are forgiven. It is your father I must speak to for the things he is about to do and the things he has already done."

My aunt aka my father's sister, wanted my father to go to prison for his unacceptable acts. I obviously disagreed because that would leave my mother as a single working parent and I CANNOT have her go through it. I CANNOT. That's why I forgave him and told him to take responsibility for his actions. But thing is, he was conned and yet debt is owed. He is now taking responsibility, spiritually motivated to regain his honor, through hard work to repay those debts. Catholics have been getting this whole "sinfulness" thing wrong. How so? They believed stupid retarded augustine on his written Original Sin doctrine. He believed that babies are all born sinful and needed to be baptized or else they'd be condemned to hell. He was wrong and Pelagius defended the innocence of Adam & Eve being deceived by Satan; which essentially is saying that they made a mistake and yes they did, they got punished for it. Pelagius also defended the freedoms of choice and the innocence of newborns because newborn infants come into this world with no knowledge of anything yet. That's the purpose of having a father and a mother to teach, guide, and to nurture them on the righteous path. For doing this, the toxic false catholic church decided to uphold Augustine and ban Pelagius. Yet Pelagius was telling the truth and the false catholics believed augustine's lies in order to gain more power and control over the populace.

I would say, Augustine was the first abortionist, claiming to be religious when he is not. Does Adam & Eve's mistake affect us all though? Yes but it doesn't make us responsible.

Side: No