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Blunt murder, serial killing, terrorism, leftist extremism, homosexuality/bisexuality/lesbianism, man hate(feminazism), abortion, cross dressing, "transgenderism", pedophilia/post statuary rape are all severe sins. I do have to say, if the criminal is beyond help, beyond saving and is a REAL danger to yourself and to society, including your friends and family, let the law handle it, whatever it may be. Just don't get yourself into trouble to the point of seeing yourself get yeeted. They used to hang outlaws back then and anyone who was a severe convict. These days, we do have lenient laws but it's grown....too lenient. I will say, I used to disagree with the death penalty, but in these years, I have only seen more and more wickedness arise as an attempt to overcome what is good. The Bible does support the death penalty in the Old Testament. In the New Testament, Jesus teaches us to love one another, including our enemies. This teaching is often seen as an open door to justifying sin for the criminals out there. But that's twisting what Jesus taught because still, you may show love and mercy to your enemy, but that does not mean you justify their actions nor take the law into your own hands unless ofc you can prevent yourself from breaking it. This is why Batman doesn't kill. He is a concerned citizen who lets the law handle things and yes, some criminals have faced death sentences and Batman stayed out of it even though he disagrees with it for some villains that he believes can be redeemed. Some I will say are beyond redeemable and Batman just doesn't say anything because he knows, some criminals will just get what they deserve naturally. I'm basically doing the same thing because it is out of common sense. However, God is just. He doesn't let the wicked get away with their sins. I will just have to say, I will not get involved too much in deciding whether a convict should be punished by the death penalty, but I will just have to say, it still exists in some countries because they do not tolerate severe crime. It is only what they want what is best for their people. Pedophiles such as lgbtpedos for example, deserve no leniency because they want to indoctrinate kids into their gross ideologies. They want to include minorly attracted persons which is an alias for pedophiles. The danger is, regimes can use this to their advantage and kill anyone who is innocent. However, if used wisely, only the most severe of criminals will be dealt with. I definitely can choose to save them even though they may be evil doers but I will not nor do I have the authority to end lives of human beings who happen to be criminals. It only should be legal to deal with severe criminals who relentlessly want to harm the innocent in society. This includes the criminally insane and the criminally sane who have no remorse in what they have done. After all, some men just want to simply see the world burn. Btw, some women now too have become wicked. Let God prevail near the end!
I always get a laugh at people who are confused on why Pro life people can also support capital punishment.
I guess the difference between mass murderers and innocent lives is a hard concept for some to grasp.
Let me clarify for the millionth time.
Pro life people are pro life for innocent people! We have no problem with the concept of the death penalty for murderers. We understand that the death penalty will for sure stop any chance that this monster could someday murder again, inside or outside of prison.
is it funny ha ha or funny strange? it is an obvious self-contradiction that requires mental gymnastics to rationalize away, i agree.
murder does not require the victim to be "innocent" or "guilty". the premeditated choice to end a human life is murder no matter how you try to lawyer your way out of that logic.
you might FEEL good about murdering a "guilty" person, and protecting an "innocent" person. but your feelings don't matter to facts. the fact is that murder is murder, whether or not you feel "justified" in doing it.
on a sidenote: who is good and who is evil in this world? are you the judge?
if i had given you the death penalty the moment you committed a sin, would you approve of my Judgement...? careful who you throw stones at. you might accidentally hit a sinner
You are doing what most people against the death penalty do.
You start comparing the act of premeditated murder with other sins that do not deserve the death penalty. You try to conflate two different issues to justify your stance.
If I were to murder a person, I would expect to be executed. We don't have the death penalty for other sins here in America. If we did, I would be against it.
To purposely take another innocent life is the ultimate inhuman thing to do, and deserving of the death penalty.
Obviously there are different types of killing that is not premeditated such as manslaughter, etc. etc.
An intelligent people will make common sense laws that can differentiate between types of murder. I would be fine with death penalty restrictions when there is not 100% positive proof of guilt.
One thing a civilized nation must always do, is lift up the value of innocent life, because when a culture tells the people that viable babies can now be killed, a criminal will justify in his mind that killing anyone after traveling down that birth canal is no worse.
I believe abortion is a very important reason why there is such a lack of respect for life today. We keep seeing these mass killings, as if an innocent human life means nothing.
I will turn the table on you, and say how ludicrous it is for a supposed compassionate people, who can't even bring themselves to execute a mass murderer, to be the very ones having no problem with No Restriction abortions.
So spare us all your phony concern for the right to life of killers.
my concern for the Truth is real. and i'm not the one trying to justify their stance. just stating the Truth plain and obvious. you also seem to suggest that sins have weight, but God declared all sins to have equal value. did i miss something? so in your world-morality the appropriate punishment for a sin is the equal sin?? so you lie to liars and steal from thieves?? what a strange system.
God says all people have sinned and deserving of judgement. He did not mean all sins are equal. When he speaks to all people having sinned, he is speaking to people who are not saved and therefore not being saved. Salvation and faith in Christ is what saves people, no matter that we have all sinned.
God says we have all sinned and therefore without Christ are not saved. He is not saying all sins are equal.
The Bible speaks to the death penalty for certain sins and not others.
Do you honestly think saying a swear word is as bad in God's eyes as murdering someone?
You are right. Some sins are more severe than others. Swearing is not as bad as murder nor rape. However, it's still best to refrain from swearing. None of us are perfect and only through Christ can we be good and do anything.
I always get a laugh at people who are confused on why Pro life people can also support capital punishment.
I get the impression that you rock back and forth manically while you're having this laugh.
I guess the difference between mass murderers and innocent lives is a hard concept for some to grasp.
I guess the concept of the legal system making a mistake and accidentally executing innocent people is too hard a concept for you to grasp, moron.
I guess the fact that many of the crack babies you want to force women to carry will inevitably grow up and become mass murderers is too hard a concept for you to grasp too. What if the "innocent life" you save ends up murdering and raping people? Those deaths are on you, you snivelling little coward.
I stand with you on that. Too many serial killers are getting away because of lenient laws. Immorality will be wiped from the earth as God sent His Son Jesus Christ to teach and to say that the wicked will never win.
Thou shall not kill. Even if that person is really really really bad and you feel like they deserve it. If a person is deemed completely useless and a danger to society, you can always just lock him up and throw away the key.
You show your total ignorance to the Bible. Where it says Thou shall not kill? It is speaking to murder and taking the life of the innocent. The Bible has absolutely no problem with the death penalty, and speaks of it many times.
Nahhh… I don't think killing people is a good way to teach people NOT to kill people..
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Hey STUPOR STUPID you COMPASSIONATE Leftist are not concerned with the victim's families of their loved ones that have been murdered ? I have to say i enjoy showing up on CD and watching the STUPIDITY you IGNORANT SON OF BITCHES type !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spoken by a complete phony when it comes to compassion for others.
You would hold midnight vigils to protect a mass murder's right to life, yet you vote for politicians on the Left who have stripped a viable baby's right to life.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CLUE HOW SCREWED UP YOUR THINKING? ANY CLUE AT ALL?
Nah, you are brainwashed into Progressive hypocrisy and self love.
Your priority in life is based on your convenience. Mass murderers do not effect your lifestyle, only others who are murdered.
But after choosing to have sex without birth control, that innocent baby is now an inconvenience to you. KILL IT!
Ok, make a fool of yourself and bring up rapes. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
it is the most effective deterrent for the culprit. and is quite effective at deterring the general public (which is why it is so easy to rationalize). however you are correct that it requires hypocrisy (illogical) in order to enact.
You're being shot at you idiot. Military personnel aren't expected to kill unarmed non-combatants.
Military combat is planned. killing humans in military combat is planned. The killing of a human is homicide. Homicide is often planned without being murder. See above (you forgot police sniper ), and try again.
From now on we should just ignore Amarel in a similar way that we ignore Outlaw or FromWithin. Never bothering to really engage with them but just showing up to briefly piss on them occasionally. If you take the time to write a real argument they will simply regurgitate more fallacies and ignore 90% of what you say entirely.
so if a military soldier (on the other team) murders your family that is not murder?
police snipers, or any other state sanctioned murders. are not murder because they had a badge while doing it? or because politicians have the authority to decide who lives and who gets murdered?
sorta like when the Romans were feeding Christians to the lions, perhaps...? not murder...???
so if a military soldier (on the other team) murders your family that is not murder?
If anyone murders anyone, it is necessarily murder. That’s not what I’m talking about.
Can you imagine a situation where soldiers confront other soldiers on a battlefield where combat is expected to occur, and then both sides try to kill the other side according to a strategic and tactical plan? That’s planned homicide. It’s not murder.
police snipers, or any other state sanctioned murders. are not murder because they had a badge while doing it?
Can you imagine a scenario where police snipers respond to a hostage situation and do their job? That’s planned homicide. It’s not murder.
Can you imagine a situation where soldiers confront other soldiers on a battlefield where combat is expected to occur, and then both sides try to kill the other side according to a strategic and tactical plan? That’s planned homicide. It’s not murder.
Amarel, do you actually ever stop distorting facts around your own falsehoods? There is no obligation to kill opposing soldiers and your suggestion otherwise is false. If a force invades a country and that country's soldiers all lay down their arms and refuse to fight, then shooting them would be murder. If the invading force gets shot at on the way in then it becomes a matter of self-defence, not "planned homicide".
I’m glad you’ve finally come around to recognizing how violent action can be taken in self-defense.
While many wars are wars of self defense, not all have been. France and England occasionally battled each other over third party territory, where they both met to do battle. That’s not to imply that defensive action cannot be planned, it can. When planned defensive action includes a plan of lethal force, it is homicide, but not necessarily murder.
I mostly post responses to you in order to make clear what you try to muddy. I’m going to try not to do that anymore. Reasonable onlookers can see my point long before you’ve given up your lies, which means you’re mostly just causing me to waste my time.
I’m glad you’ve finally come around to recognizing how violent action can be taken in self-defense.
If we were talking about the legalisation of guns you would be the very first to point out the concept of self-defence. Since we are talking about something which is not the legalisation of guns you are arguing the complete opposite of what you would normally argue. You did precisely the same thing last night. This habit you have of contradicting your own past arguments is why nobody in their right mind should take anything you say seriously. You're a shill. A silly partisan hack.
While many wars are wars of self defense, not all have been
I am not interested in your incessant deflections of the fact that premeditated homicide is murder. The very fact that you even mentioned war in the first place was an attempt to take advantage of the hypocrisy central to the same system you perpetually shill for. You were looking for an exception you could use to create a false analogy.
Frankly, nothing you say interests me. I find you to be an extremely dishonest and narcissistic person.
it's still murder even if you feel like it was justified, and while we may make "self-defense" legal, man's laws will never supercede God's Law, just FYI
a rose by any other name, would smell as sweet. the problem with delusion is that the human brain can rationalize anything it wants to believe. Reality doesn't care about our feelings.