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Down with the queen! God save the queen!
Debate Score:13
Arguments:7
Total Votes:14
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 Down with the queen! (5)
 
 God save the queen! (2)

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Should the monarchy be abolished?

Down with the queen!

Side Score: 9
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God save the queen!

Side Score: 4
2 points

The concept of monarchy is undemocratic. If the monarch retains any significant political powers (as they do in Belgium and the U.K. for example) these are unjustifiable. Why should the opinion of just one person, in office purely by accident of birth, be able to influence the outcome of electionsor of political decision-making? Monarchy may also be used to prop up other unjustifiable elements within the constitution.

Side: Down with the queen!
zproach(252) Disputed
2 points

To be fair...

The monarchy in the UK is purely ceremonial... they don't hold any real power.

And the UK doesn't even have a constitution.

Side: God save the queen!
DaWolfman(3324) Disputed
1 point

When did I say they did? I said monarchy as a whole ...

Monarchy may also be used to prop up other unjustifiable elements within the constitution.

I only mentioned the UK and Belgium as examples of countries that hold monarchies.

The monarchy in the UK is purely ceremonial... they don't hold any real power.

The King/Queen of the UK can ...

Call the leader of the Party who maintains the most seats in the House of Commons.

No Parliament meeting can be started without the monarch of the UK.

No bill may become law unless the Queen signs it.

Though these things hardly ever happen, does not mean the Queen doesn't have any power.

Side: Down with the queen!
2 points

The bitch does nothing but smile and wave.

Fuck the queen. Sing it with me.....

Side: Down with the queen!
2 points

get rid of her. she doesnt need us and we dont need her. what the hell has she done for us in the last 20 or so years?

Side: Down with the queen!
1 point

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Side: Down with the queen!
1 point

Monarchy is preferable to the alternative; an elected Presidency. It avoids the partisan nature of a Presidency, inevitably associated with one of the political parties, and thus incapable of uniting the nation as monarchy can. In all countries public trust of politicians is sinking to new lows, another reason why an elected Presidency fails to provide a focus for national feeling. Constitutional monarchy is also a more effective system of government, vesting real power clearly in the hands of democratically accountable leaders with a mandate to govern, without all the dangers of political gridlock that can result from conflict between two differently elected bodies.

Side: God save the queen!