Should the unvaxed who cause death by infection to others be charged with murder
Yes, same as a drunk driver.
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Criminal negligence.
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If someone drives a vehicle in the full knowledge that it has no brakes in a built up area crowded with pedestrians and kills a number of people he/she would be charged with murder or at least manslaughter. I would attest that the same principle applies to the filth who refuse to be vaccinated and mingle in with the unsuspecting general public. Side: Yes, same as a drunk driver.
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If someone was allergic to this vaccine or it was against their religion to take it, would you still file a murder report against them? If yes then you are completely wrong, they shouldn't have to put their LIFE at risk just because of a virus that's not much worse than the flu. They shouldn't have to disobey their religion just so they can fit into your beliefs. And if you are vaccinated then why would you be scare of the unvaccinated? it should be the unvaccinated scared of the unvaccinated if anything. And if it is THEIR body, then it is THEIR choice Side: Yes, same as a drunk driver.
Clearly you didn't read my thread in full. If you had you would have seen that I presented 'a let-out clause' which offers special dispensation, ''by way of exemption for those with a certified medical condition''.THAT IS;- A MEDICAL CONDITION WHICH HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED BY A QUALIFIED DOCTOR OF MEDICINE AND WHO HAS ISSUED VERIFIABLE DOCUMANTATION OF CONFIRMATION. What your ignorance also graphically illustrates is your that, like so many other shitheads you haven't grasped the enormous threat which covid-19 presents to every nation in the world. If you had researched the treatments for the disease you would understand that none of the vaccines available at this time can offer 100% immunity. So, just one mindless, unvaccinated piece of filth can still infect 100s, maybe 1000s of those who have received their anti-covid-19 shot(s). The vaccine is only one layer of protection, probably the most important layer, but other measures such as wearing a face mask, hand sanitization, smothering coughs and sneezes in the inner crease of your elbow as well as generally behaving responsibly and sensibly are also of importance.. Covid-19 doesn't respect religions and this is why religious festivals and gatherings have either been banned or subjected to strict anti-covid-19 regulations in most countries. Any religion which demands that their followers risk the lives of countless 1000s in favor of adhering to the scientific recommendations of the world's medical professionals is the religion of frightening hocus-pocus and dangerous ignorance. Side: Criminal negligence.
You claim, ''it is their body, then it is their choice''. WRONG, we're in a ''WAR'' WITH COVID and in war situations the rights of the individual must be temporarily suspended in favor of the overall good of mankind. No individual, group or religion can have the right to eclipse all other considerations and WILLFULLY MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE PURSUIT OF THEIR SELFISH DOCTRINES OR PERSONAL BELIEFS. WE'RE IN A WAR LIKE NO WAR WE'VE EVER FOUGHT BEFORE AND EVERY WEAPON IN OUR MEDICAL ARSENAL MUST BE EMPLOYED. Side: Criminal negligence.
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Last year, 42,153,664 people were diagnosed with COVID-19, if that was the reason we should've started putting masks on then we should've started in 1918 when the influenza pandemic started, every year an average of 40M people get the flu. The only difference between the flu and Covid-19 is Covid is more contagious but vastly weaker than flu, but eventually, you'll have to face reality, people will refuse the vaccine no matter what you say, Then you have to put people out of their job because of it, and slowly America will become corrupt, and if you try to file a report against someone who killed someone with Covid. It would be very difficult to figure out who it came from, So I guess this is going to be the next 100-year war https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/ https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/ https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/ https://www.worldometers.info/ https://www.cdc.gov/flu/ Side: Yes, same as a drunk driver.
manslaughter seems more plausible than murder in most cases. the more serious charges - murder, conspiracy to murder, etc - should be reserved for those who knowing and deliberately spread dangerous misinformation, divert resources, expose others directly knowing they are infected, etc. (i.e. generally for the people profiting off the politics of the health issue by exploiting the average intellect and tribal nature of humans). Side: Yes, same as a drunk driver.
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How would you determine who killed who? Unless you can prove who killed who you wouldn't know. Also, Murder is the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Premeditated means thought out or planned beforehand, and people aren't going around coughing on people on purpose, so it would fall under the category INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER, but if you can't prove who has done it, charging unvaxed people for murder by infection, becomes nearly impossible. Side: Yes, same as a drunk driver.
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I would have to say that it depends on the situation in life. Firstly let's get this straight, it takes up to two weeks for a Covid vaccine dose to go into the bloodstream and cells to help fight off infection of Covid, and this idea is also relevant to other vaccines. Some people believe that with the vaccine they can do whatever they want and go to restaurants again, and based on peoples opinions and the correct news. But, as I have said, it takes about a week for the vaccine to set in, meaning you can contract Covid during the time the vaccine is getting ready to work inside your body. Then, people might spread Covid more, with people thinking that because they have the vaccine they are safe. Because of this, they should not go to jail, because they simply did not know and got the vaccine as everyone told them to. So, if they spread it, it nearly isn't their fault because they had the vaccine. Also, not to be too defensive of people who do not vaccinate and spread Covid, places and the government isn't enforcing Covid vaccines as heavily as they should. It's like seeing a child doing something bad but only giving them an angry look, it isn't doing anything. Schools also arent requiring vaccines (to my knowledge from my school) which thus leads to more children not getting the vaccine and spreading it. Though this is being very nice to antivaccine it is important to take into account how the government, schools, and other places haven't been enforcing vaccines nor taken action. I also do see the other side's opinion as well, and it can be morally incorrect to spread Covid on purpose and not get the vaccine for that reason. IN fact, in most places, you can get jail time for that and heavy fines. For this topic I recommend this article I found (its a better source anyways): https://www.criminal-defense-dui.lawyer/ Overall, based on what I have seen and analytical points of view I believe it depends because some variables can lead to the spread of Covid, that don't mirror what drunk drivers do. Also please do get the vaccine, by saying this I am not saying not to get the vaccine, I am only saying that we shouldn't go to this extreme based on some Covid spread cases. Side: Yes, same as a drunk driver.
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Good point put very diplomatically. As you know the underlying weakness in your otherwise valid point is that none of the vaccines currently available can offer 100% protection and there are many reported cases where the victims were immunized but caught the disease anyway. I would reiterate my assertion that if every covid-19 preventative measure was availed by ''EVERYONE'' we would have this Chinese disease defeated by Christmas. Side: Yes, same as a drunk driver.
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Every vaxed person should be issued with a vaccination passport which would have to be presented when wishing to enter crowded premises or any venue which is likely to become crowded. This proposed legal requirement should should be strictly enforced in the same manner as it is a condition to carry a passport for international travel. Unvaccinated Filth who do not adhere to the law and go on to infect others and cause their death should most definitely be charged with reckless manslaughter and in extreme cases with wilful murder. Side: Criminal negligence.
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I would have to say that it depends on the situation in life. Firstly let's get this straight, it takes up to two weeks for a Covid vaccine dose to go into the bloodstream and cells to help fight off infection of Covid, and this idea is also relevant to other vaccines. Some people believe that with the vaccine they can do whatever they want and go to restaurants again, and based on peoples opinions and the correct news. But, as I have said, it takes about a week for the vaccine to set in, meaning you can contract Covid during the time the vaccine is getting ready to work inside your body. Then, people might spread Covid more, with people thinking that because they have the vaccine they are safe. Because of this, they should not go to jail, because they simply did not know and got the vaccine as everyone told them to. So, if they spread it, it nearly isn't their fault because they had the vaccine. Also, not to be too defensive of people who do not vaccinate and spread Covid, places and the government isn't enforcing Covid vaccines as heavily as they should. It's like seeing a child doing something bad but only giving them an angry look, it isn't doing anything. Schools also arent requiring vaccines (to my knowledge from my school) which thus leads to more children not getting the vaccine and spreading it. Though this is being very nice to antivaccine it is important to take into account how the government, schools, and other places haven't been enforcing vaccines nor taken action. I also do see the other side's opinion as well, and it can be morally incorrect to spread Covid on purpose and not get the vaccine for that reason. IN fact, in most places, you can get jail time for that and heavy fines. For this topic I recommend this article I found (its a better source anyways): Overall, based on what I have seen and analytical points of view I believe it depends because some variables can lead to the spread of Covid, that don't mirror what drunk drivers do. Also please do get the vaccine, by saying this I am not saying not to get the vaccine, I am only saying that we shouldn't go to this extreme based on some Covid spread cases. Side: Criminal negligence.
The lazy, thoughtless self-serving filth are indeed contributing significantly to unnecessarily high covid-19 mortality rate. Yes, as the filth are aware that their actions, or omissions are likely to cause death they should be charged with reckless manslaughter and tried by a jury of their peers in a court of law. Side: Criminal negligence.
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