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The world should be atheist The world should be thiest
Debate Score:82
Arguments:60
Total Votes:107
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Should the world be atheist or be thiest

I have heard many people saaying me if you be thiest god helps in everything is it true

The world should be atheist

Side Score: 43
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The world should be thiest

Side Score: 39
4 points

There is no proof in atheism. Evolution is fake. Just think about it. If a fish jumped out of the water and on land he would flopped around for a while before flopping back into the water. However evolution says that if fish do that for thousands of years they will begin to grow lunges. There is one problem. When the fish starts to grow lunges he would be worse off in the water. He would not breath as well in the water and be eaten by a predator. That is why there is a fish called the coelacanth. This fish is so old its in the fossil records. It's species is estimated to be 400 million years old and it has changed 0% in that time. Why? Because God created everything in 7 days and it is meant to stay the same.

Side: The world should be atheist
MuckaMcCaw(1969) Disputed
3 points

Have you seriously never heard of amphibians? Beings equipped to extract oxygen from both the atmosphere and water? Are you completely unaware of the rich and diverse ecologies that exist at shorelines? Places where water is only a few feet deep and exposure to both water and atmosphere is common? Places where amphibious animals can escape predators by temporarily moving onto the land or into dry caves? There is no need for fish flopping about in these scenarios. Simply amphibians developing rudimentary lungs and strong flippers to pull them onto land for brief times. Millions of years later, you get full-time land dwellers. Not too hard to figure out, man.

Side: The world should be thiest

This actually saddens me to an extent (Not your argument, but the one you responded to). Many people at my church say the same exact thing. Evolution can't be proven or evolution is a lie. I still don't see how both can't coexist, but growing up around mainly religious minded people has shown me that it's hard to show someone something that potentially disagrees with their faith.

Side: The world should be thiest
1 point

There are no major scientists in the world today who reject the theory of evolution. In fact, the greatest Christian scientist alive today is Francis Collins, whom states that evolution is just as factual as the theory of gravitation. Speaking against evolution, as though it contradicts Christianity, is in the end like doing to Christianity what Hitler did to the Jews. There is too much evidence for evolution right now, and from too many fields of science.

We can't interpret the creation accounts in the Old Testament as literal-historical, and there is nothing wrong with this. In fact reading it mythically is found to be much more powerful. The earliest church father outside the New Testament (St. Origen) didn't preach a literal interpretation. If you have ever read the works of Emanuel Swedenborg, I highly recommend him.

Side: The world should be thiest
Nomoturtle(856) Disputed
1 point

no that was Jean-Baptist Lamarck's theory of evolution, which most of all but you know to be wrong. what most people call evolution is Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, which is what those who believe in evolution believe in. look up charles darwin's theory of evolution, im afraid you have proven yourself ignorant.

Side: The world should be thiest
Noxter(92) Banned
2 points

Atheist oriented on research, functional communism .

Side: The world should be atheist
1 point

The smartest minds in our world are atheists, they are the scientist making the world a better place unlike any god is doing.

Faith is believing in something without evidence or question. Science is about asking questions and seeking evidence. If everyone just attributed everything to god we would have no need to discover things for ourselves and would be blinded by faith.

We shouldn’t be trusting a book written over 2 thousand years ago by a bunch of unknown Jewish authors in extinct languages with no evidence what so ever and a tone of contradictions over modern scientific evidence and research

If you got sick would you

a) Pray to your god to get better

b) b) Take Medicine created by Science to treat your illness. You can only pic one.

Side: The world should be atheist
daver(1771) Clarified
1 point

Some smart people are atheists. TRUE

Some smart people are theists. TRUE

And your point was.................... what again.

Faith is belief without evidence. TRUE again, soooooooooooo......... what?

Virtually all major religions were founded in the distant past. Whats wrong with the distant past. Is that not when some of the greatest thinkers were alive?

If you get sick, is it not reasonable to do the things that you think will help you recover?

Your argument is not exactly clear. Care to try again?

Side: The world should be atheist
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

The smartest minds in our world are atheists, they are the scientist making the world a better place unlike any god is doing.

Scientist making the world a better place? It was those scientist that created the atomic bomb and clearly those people killed are in a better place. God didn't do this.

Side: The world should be thiest
14giraffes(87) Disputed
0 points

Theism can be oriented on research. That stupid run up between religion and science was with catholic authority, not religion. And as for socialism, Jesus was preaching that stuff 2,000 years ago.

Side: The world should be thiest
2 points

I have been thinking about this and reading all the posts. I began to think how the world will be filled with the same arrogance. I don't think it would really change. It would be same people now, only fighting for different reasons. Just because someone is a atheist doesn't mean they automatically become hyper-intelligent or anyway more superior than our fellow man. What I am trying to say is humanity doesn't change. So it doesn't really matter what the world is.

Side: The world should be atheist
1 point

The smartest minds in our world are atheists, they are the scientist making the world a better place unlike any god is doing.

Faith is believing in something without evidence or question. Science is about asking questions and seeking evidence. If everyone just attributed everything to god we would have no need to discover things for ourselves and would be blinded by faith.

We shouldn’t be trusting a book written over 2 thousand years ago by a bunch of unknown Jewish authors in extinct languages with no evidence what so ever and a tone of contradictions over modern scientific evidence and research

If you got sick would you

a) Pray to your god to get better

b) b) Take Medicine created by Science to treat your illness. You can only pic one.

Side: The world should be atheist
1 point

Religious teachings contradict scientific evidence.

The smartest minds in our world are atheists, they are the scientist making the world a better place unlike any god is doing.

Faith is believing in something without evidence or question. Science is about asking questions and seeking evidence. If everyone just attributed everything to god we would have no need to discover things for ourselves and would be blinded by faith.

Side: The world should be atheist
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
0 points

Religious teachings contradict scientific evidence.

Most religions say God created the world. Science theorizes that the world was created by an unknown force. Could that force be God? A lot of scientist lean toward being a pantheist, naming the universe as God. Dark matter and energy that exist in the universe is the god scientist worships. Replacing one god with another doesn't eliminate God.

Faith is believing in something without evidence or question. Science is about asking questions and seeking evidence. If everyone just attributed everything to god we would have no need to discover things for ourselves and would be blinded by faith.

Any part of science in which you have not personally partaken in but believe, requires faith of equal or greater value than any theist. Talk about blind faith.

Side: The world should be thiest
1 point

“I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.”

— Richard Dawkins

Side: The world should be atheist
1 point

neither. it should be deist. why is the choice only between these two choices? completely biased question.

Side: The world should be atheist
1 point

I feel like banging the people on the other side to death with a transitional fossil.

Side: The world should be atheist
-1 points

One must treat work as god and must be a damn believer of it.

Side: The world should be atheist

The world should be free to choose what they believe in. Most thinking people understand that the moral values derived from Christianity has done nothing but good for America. An amoral nation has no road map to teach it's children. Their moral values change and drift with every decade as we are seeing in America where it is now fashionable to live together with no commitment to their relationship nor commitment for their kids.

We are seeing the results as they separate Christianity from our public square. Rampant broken homes, fewer and fewer parents home with the kids, rampant divorce, huge increases in Gangs and now we even see some teens joining terrorist groups. The evidence is in, a nation that fears and separates the very mention of God or moral values in public is a dying nation.

Side: The world should be thiest
2 points

First, starting any argument with "thinking people agree with me that x" is a very weak base plate. Second, what do you mean by an "amoral nation"? It could be argued that every nation is amoral, and that the nation's inhabitants are where the morality exists. Third, America also now values fighting racial discrimination, increased freedom of speech and expression, decreased sexism, etc. Are those not valuable moral steps to you? Fourth, the Constitution is what separates Christianity from the public square, via the Establishment Clause. Can you provide any evidence that doing so has caused ANY of the things you have listed? Or how about addressing that while that has happened, violent crime is decreasing every single year? Is that also because we are separating Christianity from the public square? Sounds like "the evidence is in" as you say.

Side: The world should be atheist
FromWithin(8240) Disputed
0 points

You have the nerve to speak of freedom of speech and expression? Do you have a clue how Liberals have censored our freedom of speech and expression when it comes to expressing our heritage and faith in public?

The lie of Separation of church and state is an example why free speech only applies when it is agreed upon by Liberals. When the speech goes against a humanist ideology, they come up with lies by twisting what the constitution says to justify their bigotry and censorship.

The Constitution says that Congress shall pass no law infringing on our religious freedom of expression. It says that Government shall not make any law "ESTABLISHING" a religion.

A community's freedom to choose or not to choose a simple school prayer is NOT establishing a religion. For those on the Left to imply this is pathetic. Look at history if there is any question. Decades after the Constitution was written, we even had schools being required to have Christian school teachers because they could be more trusted with the children. What Liberals have done to the Constitution is traitorous. No child is forced to pray and no school is forced to have prayers. I believe in school choice but Democrats want all our children corralled into their schools where they can indoctrinate the kids with their political correct religion.

Side: The world should be thiest
1 point

I came to a heightened conclusion when I actually had a debate about NOT being theistic. The truth is that Theism is actually a way to inspire many to continue on with their daily struggles. I am actually an athiest, but I understand the loss of this certain belief. Imagine if you experienced a life threatening struggle. Who or what would you trust in to make things right. Although this would not change anything as far as your future is concerned but could you imagine if you didn't have something to hope for? It is up to you what you believe and how you believe, and I have gotten along fine without religion... but it makes you wonder, who do you turn to when the journey looks impossible and you need to feel encouraged. I hope this helps.

Side: The world should be thiest

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

It is not religions fault that people are at fault. Don't blame the goose for what the gander does.

Side: The world should be thiest
GenericName(3430) Clarified
2 points

Jesus was no saint either (ha).

Remember the whole ""Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword", and " "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me".

Side: The world should be atheist
0 points

Without God there is no objective morality. That means people like Donald Trump can do whatever they want and get away with it.

"We're all dust," right? Just follow the logical conclusion.

For those atheists who want to point out the crusades, for every single historical action you can suggest there are 10,000 acts of kindness that spring from religiosity. Plus the crusades and such had political motives, duh!

Side: The world should be thiest
2 points

Your belief in god does not create a purely objective morality, since the existence of multiple religions and therefore gods creates multiple "objective moralities", which of course makes them subjective.

Side: The world should be atheist
14giraffes(87) Disputed
0 points

Studies in comparative religion have shown that polytheists are secretly monotheist, and that monotheists are secretly polytheists. For example the first sentence in the Bible actually reads, "In the beginning the Gods created the heavens and the earth." And if you study some of the scholars of hinduism like Swami Prabhavananda or Vivekananda, many that I have read swear that hinduism is actually a monotheist religion, but that the multiplicity are simply personifications of the same God. From my studies, I'm not convinced that the main religions differ all so greatly on their various morals. Where they do differ can be explained in it's historical context.

Side: The world should be thiest
0 points

There is no proof in atheism. Evolution is fake. Just think about it. If a fish jumped out of the water and on land he would flopped around for a while before flopping back into the water. However evolution says that if fish do that for thousands of years they will begin to grow lunges. There is one problem. When the fish starts to grow lunges he would be worse off in the water. He would not breath as well in the water and be eaten by a predator. That is why there is a fish called the coelacanth. This fish is so old its in the fossil records. It's species is estimated to be 400 million years old and it has changed 0% in that time. Why? Because God created everything in 7 days and it is meant to stay the same.

Side: The world should be thiest
2 points

Zachattack, why do you think that the overwhelming majority of scientists recognize evolution? Do you think they are all wrong, and you know something they don't? Or do you think that maybe, just maybe, you know exceptionally little about evolution?

Side: The world should be atheist
14giraffes(87) Clarified
1 point

There are no major scientists in the world today who reject the theory of evolution. In fact, the greatest Christian scientist alive today is Francis Collins, whom states that evolution is just as factual as the theory of gravitation. Speaking against evolution, as though it contradicts Christianity, is in the end like doing to Christianity what Hitler did to the Jews. There is too much evidence for evolution right now, and from too many fields of science.

We can't interpret the creation accounts in the Old Testament as literal-historical, and there is nothing wrong with this. In fact reading it mythically is found to be much more powerful. The earliest church father outside the New Testament (St. Origen) didn't preach a literal interpretation. If you have ever read the works of Emanuel Swedenborg, I highly recommend him.

Side: The world should be atheist
mystar(11) Disputed
1 point

They live deep in the water, where they are perfectly adapted to live there making no changes.

Side: The world should be atheist