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Yes, it's dangerous Hell no, it's the owners fault
Debate Score:28
Arguments:17
Total Votes:29
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Should they have shot the chimp?

Here's the article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090220/ap_on_re_us/chimpanzee_attack

My problem is, any idiot is allowed to own a wild animal, and then for some reason it's the animals fault.

This lady **bathed** with this monkey!

That is not normal behavior. Chimps are dirty, wild animals. That lady needs to be commited.

That aside, same thing with Zigfried or Roy or whoever. When an animal acts like an animal, who's fault is it?

Yes, it's dangerous

Side Score: 18
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Hell no, it's the owners fault

Side Score: 10
4 points

If a crazed chimp is coming after me and I have a gun, guess what, I'm peeling lead before bananas.

If you know anything about primates, you would too.

Side: Yes, it's dangerous
3 points

lol, yeah

those things are crazy, all the more reason they shouldn't be pets.

Side: Yes, it's dangerous
1 point

Seriously, get a dog.

Side: Yes, it's dangerous
1 point

Primates are the scariest animals on the planet.

Side: Yes, it's dangerous
3 points

just think about what you would want the cops to do if your face was being eating by a monkey......shoot the chimp

Side: Yes, it's dangerous
1 point

Of course!

But one (such as myself) might argue that that lady was an idiot,

and anyone who bathes, drinks alcohol, sleeps, and does god knows what else with a wild animal (and yeah, I almost guarantee if she was doing all that, the two were intimate)

maybe deserves to have her face eaten,

of course, if people who don't treat apes like their husband lives' were in danger, than shoot the thing.

My whole point is that dumb lady should not have had a chimp to start with.

Side: Yes, it's dangerous
AndrewJ(42) Disputed
2 points

OK maybe its partly the owners fault... but that lady could have died

.... whats more important a human life or a monkeys life...?

Side: Hell no, it's the owners fault
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
2 points

That is all true but come on, she deserves psychological help. Not face eating therapy.

Nobody deserves to have their face eaten off by a primate. I think if you witnessed the event first hand you would change your mind.

Is it just me or is this story incredibly terrifying?

Side: Both

Yes, it is dangerous to make a pet out of an animal from the wild. When all is said and done the animal will act on instinct, for good or for bad. Whose fault is it? The fault lies with those who make the decisions that define which animals belong in the domesticated group, i.e. pets such as dogs or cats. We know they can be trained to live in the world with people around them. Any animal that cannot be trained in that way should not be made available to the public or sold as a viable pet.

Side: No sedated and taken to a zoo
1 point

I agree with you for the most part. But also, humans aren't dumb enough to not know the risks of bringing any animal into their home. I mean, they'd have to be severely dumb to purchase a chimp (which is what? a couple thousand? I dunno, but I'm sure it's not cheap), and not know their risks.

Plus, there's probably more to this story that caused the chimp to go psycho than she's revealing. Animals never really lash out for no reason, but rather when they're feeling threatened.

Side: Yes, it's dangerous
1 point

Yeah, but the owner of course should still take responsibility.

Side: Both
1 point

some species of chimps are well known to be vicious/aggressive, and have attacked, even killed. chimps have over 5 times the upper body strengh of a typical human male( looking at some of the human males not hard to believe) some are meat eaters, some mostly vegetarians. chimps are conscious and capable of manipulation and deception, sounds alot like us humans... why we would want to own one of these perpetual toddler that could pull off your arm and beat you to death with it, and then nicely dispose of your body by eating you,.. yum yum.. what a good party piece for your guests... animals just dont do well in captivity. they need their natural habitat,.. not doing drugs with you or your mates, and their not good having a 3 some, sex with you.. or are they,... so dont buy a chimp its not fair on them, and its your problem when it all gos tits up with them........

Side: Yes, it's dangerous

I think that, at worst, they should have spanked the monkey ;)

Side: Hell no, it's the owners fault
1 point
Side: Hell no, it's the owners fault
1 point

If a person feels they are responsible enough to own an animal, they should be responsible enough to take responsibility when the animal goes nuts,

I don't care if it's a lion or a bunny rabbit,

Animals are not people, they don't understand it when you baby talk with them, they don't know or care about your feelings,

They live by basic, primitive instincts, and ofter like in the case with dogs and dolphins, parts of their pack instinct is easily mistaken for some kind of human emotion of loyalty or concern outside of themselves.

These animals should not be shot, they should be moved to the zoo, or some other place to be cared for,

and the owner should be held fully responsible for not controlling their animal.

Side: Hell no, it's the owners fault

You cannot blame an animal for acting the way it is hard-wired to act! This woman is clearly an idiot if she believed that she could live peacefully and harmoniously with a wild animal. If she felt that she was responsible enough to properly care for and contain a wild animal, it is absolutely her responsibility to accept the consequences of it.

Side: Hell no, it's the owners fault
1 point

Hm, well, um, lemme think. I think animals are as unpredictable as any 14 year old. Lemme see... if any child under 18 does something, the parent gets to suffer their actions, but usually not as much as the child/teenager has to face the consequences of their actions. I'd like to say the same thing for animals, but they're of course, more unpredictable and less... rational. But then, a human bathing with a monkey, doesn't sound that rational either. Anyway... an owner becomes a pet owner for a reason and if their pet goes nuts and/or harms another being, the owner suffers the responsibility. And with that said, it pisses me off when animals are put to death for attacking humans. People know the damn risks. Dammit.

Side: Hell no, it's the owners fault