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Oh f*ck yeah No
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Should we say "swear" words in front of children?

I thought of this when I saw an topic with censorship. So should we finally be able to say whatever we want.(Not like threatning to kill) but swear and not have people cover their kids ears?

Oh f*ck yeah

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4 points

I've been spewing curse words left and right for over two decades now and have yet to be cursed in any way whatsoever.

I'm beginning to doubt the validity of our designation of these words as "curses."

Side: Oh f*ck yeah

Really they would start learning about these words sooner or later so who cares?

Side: Oh f*ck yeah
Merlin13(1258) Disputed
1 point

But it's best to lead by example otherwise you end up with a bunch of foul mouthed kids who will more than likely not show you any respect.

Side: No
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

Why is using swear words associated with disrespect?

Your conclusion does not follow.

If a child says, "Fucking zerglings, wheres my firebats!" when it plays SC2 and gets rushed is it somehow disrespectful?

isn't it rather an expressive sentence, denoting various emotions?

Side: Oh Fuck Yea
1 point

My parents hardly swore and saved the F-word probably twice. I feel the words work when hit your thumb with your hammer and should be reserved for those times when REALLY PISSED OFF.

For chit chat - no - is shows a lazy way of adjectives. Can say alternative words like that movie 'Johnny Dangerously' curse words: Fargin' Bastages, Iceholes ...

But making a joke about the word itself like George Carlin is funny at all ages. I like the old testament or Shakespearean insults the best.

A knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking knave, a whoreson, glass-gazing, super-serviceable finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd, in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pandar, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch: one whom I will beat into clamorous whining, if thou deniest the least syllable of thy addition.

King Lear (2.2.14-24)

Dr. Demento's skit on fck helped me in my English Grammer:

In language, "fck" falls into many grammatical categories.

transitive verb (John fcked Mary)

intransitive verb (Mary was fcked by John).

action verb (John really gives a fck),

passive verb (Mary really doesn't give a fck),

adverb (Mary is fcking interested in John),

noun (Mary is a terrific fck).

adjective (Mary is fcking beautiful)

interjection (Fck! I'm late for my date with Mary)

conjunction (Mary is easy, f*ck she's also stupid)

Supporting Evidence: The F Word (forums.plentyoffish.com)
Side: No

When i was young, I cursed at times. There was one time i was really OCD about cursing. But i believe (my opinion) that we accept the usage of curse words, children won't be tempted to say it.

Are curse words bad....no. The meaning of the word is not even bad. Words are bad when it comes with bad intentions. Such as people curse to hurt someone's feelings. The "how" or intention of the word is negative and that makes the word "feel" negative.

The "b" word means a female dog. And the "c" word is a woman's vagina...(i think). I believe that if we just accept the usage of it, children won't be tempted to say it as much. It sounds logical to me.

Side: Oh f*ck yeah
1 point

The words itself are not bad, it's the use of the words. You can say mean and hateful things without uttering our favorite swear words. So yeah, we should say whatever the fuck we want!

Side: Oh f*ck yeah

Yes! Its stupid to think kids don't hear people swearing all around them even if you yourself don't swear in front of them someone else will. Then when they go to school they will find many kids their own age swearing too. Don't you remember being a kid? You didn't dare swear at home but the moment you got to school you let loose.

Side: Oh f*ck yeah
1 point

For sure. Children need to understand what's appropriate in a culture and what's not. When a child doesn't understand the norms, the best way to do that is by testing the waters. And they shouldn't be shamed for experimenting with language, either. It's sufficient to respect their emotions and explain why such words aren't appropriate.

So will I swear in front of my kids? Abso-fucking-lutely. If they repeatedly offend others through the use of profane language, they will eventually learn that certain behaviors do not earn them friends or respect. The worst thing to do, however, is invalidate their attempts to experiment with language because they are more likely to pursue the types of behavior the get them attention. The bigger the deal an adult makes out of swear words and the more shameful the child becomes, the more they may use profanity just to spite the world for rejecting them.

Side: Oh f*ck yeah

The key word is words, and that is all they are, just words.

Side: Oh f*ck yeah
7 points

Granted they may pick it up in school but if we are doing it then it gets out of hand. Then you will find your own kids cursing you out all the time like it's cool and that does not fly with me.

Side: No
ptosis(243) Disputed
1 point

Whatever parents do is automatically uncool -

Besides - they are already swearing in front of you - and you don't even realize the nasty sayings that sound like "normal terms"

Supporting Evidence: Turkish Drillpress (Adult +18) (www.urbandictionary.com)
Side: Oh f*ck yeah
Sunset(2024) Disputed
0 points

That might be with some if not most parents but my daughter does not swear in front of me or she would be walking around with no teeth. And thats a fact

Side: No
casper3912(1581) Disputed
-1 points

Your conclusion does not necessarily follow.

Swear words, like any other words, can be taught as appropriate or inappropriate in various situations.

Not having a blanket, always inappropriate policy does not mean that all times are thus appropriate.

Side: Oh Fuck Yea
3 points

Even though I have no problem with cussing... I mean, it's just sounds... I don't think it's appropriate to use them in front of children who are impressionable... they don't yet understand that words are just words.

Side: No
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

Most words are just sounds to children, in that they are outside of their vocabulary.

I think you mean a good number of other people besides children don't understand "words are just words".

I can see prohibiting it for the sake of social status, but such seems cowardly.

Side: Oh Fuck Yea
2 points

Swearing shows a lack of imagination in the English language. My cousin came home one day when he was four swearing his head off. When I told him to stop, he told me to "f off, you fen c" . I went straight to the school, told the principle, and the student who had taught my cousin this was expelled. And so he should have been.

Not only is swearing hurtful and disrespectful, it is disgusting. Children are young and pure. Swear words are filthy and stupid.

All you who swear in front of children, for shame.

Side: No
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

Swear words like any other words can indeed be used in a creative and imaginative way. Your cousin using them otherwise is more indicative of their status as a harmless forbidden fruit and less on any actual property of them.

Further more if that was a literal quote and not a paraphrase your cousin failed to actually curse. Also The school overstepped their bounds, probably acted rashly, and was quite heavy handed.

How is swearing hurtful, disrespectful or disgusting? Such opinions on the matter seem to me to be a product of some irrational elitism or sense of superiority.

Side: Oh Fuck Yea
princessplop(-2) Disputed
1 point

"If your use of profanity is to make someone feel bad, you are completely missing the point of manners.When looking at the manners of swearing, we need to think about what kind of impact our words are having. Using curse words can make you feel powerful, but this kind of language is defensive and belligerent. And if you use profanity to make someone feel bad, you are completely missing the point of manners in the first place. Manners are about putting someone before yourself and making him or her feel important. Swearing at or near someone will usually have the opposite effect." http://manners.quickanddirtytips.com/is-swearing-bad-manners.aspx

Irrational elitism or sense of superiority? Is not swearing or cussing a form of superiority? Of empowerment? Swearing is not good manners. It is not acceptable to swear in front of people (especially children). It is not acceptable to cuss in restaurants, pubs, school, university, hospital, church...anywhere in public. It is not acceptable to swear at your spouse, friend, parent, teacher, boss or co worker.

When I hear someone using the "c" word, I literally feel sick. I can accept "shit" or "crap" in my presence (except in front of children), but anything stronger is completely inappropriate. The school I believe acted appropriately.

Side: No
Dremorius(861) Disputed
1 point

Swearing is sound vibrations that seem to insult those with "weak or easily offended" minds... However, I still totally believe that we shouldn't say swear words in front of children, but if swear words seem to sway you, know that words can't bring us down-- and that you can always have control of your mind to remind you that you can be strong, and you can have the power to make swear words take no effect. Only you have the power to decide whether or not you should be deeply offended, because being offended tends to be... unhealthy. Let us master our minds!-- only physical abuse can bring us down, so let us fight against physical abuse (irony lol), because that's the real problem! (Because physical abuse actually can lower your rate of survival, which actually sucks... and sorry if the previous paragraph sounded a little too dramatic lol)

Although I completely believe that it was terribly wrong for the student to teach your cousin "bad words", I still believe that the school kind of over-reacted in my opinion by expelling the student, as it would force drastic and emotional changes in the student's life, such as the separation of well known friends and teachers, the possible need to move house or change schools that are much farther to reach, that could possibly conflict with the student's parent's work hours. (As some schools vary in arrival/departure times) Which may result in an alteration of school transport. Various expenses would have to be sought out, such as new school uniforms and new books which may be a problem. The student would have to learn to get used to a new school environment- and cope with being the stereo-typically friendless "new kid" in the pursuit of belonging. Anyway, what I'm saying is, the student would of suffered the most in this instance-- Unless the use of the word "expulsion" was just an exaggeration of what happened to the student, please clarify if it is.

Side: Oh f*ck yeah
2 points

If you swear in front of children they will learn from you, just as they would if you were teaching them English.

So if you speak to a child in English they will reply in English.

If you speak to a child in swears they will reply in swears and that is the language they will use throughout their life.

When this does become the language they use throughout their life they will have a bad report via the teacher's point of view and it will become unlikely that they achieve a good job. If they go to interviews and start swearing is it likely they will get the job?

Side: No

No because I hate my little brothers when I accidentally( and I mean accidentally) swore in front of them they would start saying it for no reason. It gets annoying and infuriating.

Side: No
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

Act like its nothing, if you can hold out for a few mins they will get bored and move on.

There is a reason for their actions, and an obvious one at that :)

Side: Oh Fuck Yea

Children are really impressionable. I wouldn't want my kids to start randomly cussing even if they don't know what the words mean it's still disrespectful for other people to hear it. Just my opinion though.

Side: No
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

Don't give me your opinion, give me your argument.

In what manner is it disrespectful for other people to hear it?

How does it damage or assault their rightful image or position, in what manner does it lower their esteem?

Why would a child randomly start cussing despite not knowing what the words mean?

Sure, young children learn by imitation, but they imitate with the purpose of learning something useful and if cuss words were useless they would quickly forget them. If something has utility, then should we keep our children in the dark about it?

Side: Oh Fuck Yea
1 point

No.. They will simply assume that if the older generation uses it with such an ease, they might as well use some themselves. And since they will see no restriction of use with elders they'll use them limitless.

Side: No
1 point

I think that we shoudl eliminate swear words as it makes us control our anger in the wrong way. Instead of shouting a few swear words, why not go do something which will calm the situation. In addition, when done infront of children they will learn and think that it is cool but it is not and is immoral. This will make the children use it infront of other people, showing no respect to a different age and so on.

Side: No
1 point

We should not swear in front of children because they can learn it from there parents and kids might say it at school and they could get in trouble for it.

Side: No
1 point

Go ahead and swear but I don't think parents should "swear", which implies it being turned into a big thing. If you make it out as if they are just words, that is all they will be.

Side: No
1 point

I think we should not swear in front of kids because they will take after there parents and start saying it in public. They even might say swear words in elementary school and they might have to contact the parent.

Side: No

I don't think such language should be said in front of children.

Side: No