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Debate Score:124
Arguments:40
Total Votes:163
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Should women be allowed to be Catholic priests?

Is the Catholic Church behind the times?

Yes

Side Score: 82
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No

Side Score: 42
8 points

Women should be allowed to be priests. Jesus never specifically said that women should not be priests, although he did choose only men as his 12 apostles. The Catholic Church is struggling to recruit new priests, and many of the existing priests are getting much older and losing touch with their parishioners.

Allowing women to be priests could inject some new energy in to the Catholic Church and help it to promote it's goal of growth and conversion of new members.

Side: Yes
6 points

Women can be just as effective pastors as men.

Side: Yes
6 points

Seven reasons why women can and should receive Holy Orders:

1. One priesthood in Christ

Through baptism women and men share equally in the new priesthood of Christ. This includes openness to Holy Orders.

2. Empowered to preside

At the Last Supper Jesus empowered both women and men. Both can be ordained to preside at the Eucharist.

3. Cultural bias

The Church’s practice of not ordaining women as priests was based on a three-fold prejudice against women. This affected the judgment of Church leaders.

4. Women have been deacons

Until at least the ninth century the Church gave women the full sacramental ordination of deacons. This proves women can be ordained.

5. The ability for women to be ordained has been present in the Church’s latent Tradition.

One example is the age-long devotion to Mary as priest. It shows that, according to the ‘sense of the faithful’, in Mary the ban against women has already been overcome.

6. The wider Church accepts women priests

After serious study and prayer other Christian Churches now ordain women as priests. Though not everything other churches do can be accepted by the Catholic Church, this converging consensus by believing Christians confirms that ordaining women is according to the mind of Christ.

7. Women too are, in fact, called to be priests

The fact that many responsible Catholic women discern in themselves a vocation to the priesthood is a sign of the Holy Spirit you cannot ignore.

Conclusion:

There are no valid arguments against women priests, and many truly Catholic arguments in favour.

Supporting Evidence: Women priests movement (www.womenpriests.org)
Side: Yes
Godsmacker(3) Disputed
2 points

Other than the fact that they are the root of all evil, they were the weakest of the sex being a puppet of the great surpent with the poisen apple in the first place. read the bible, women are a "helpmeat" and meant as a means to procreate, anyhting more allowable just screws everything up....

Side: No
5 points

I understand that tradition is that Christ called men to be in his ministry and that the 12 apostles were men and that the perfect priest would have been Mary, but Jesus didn't choose her. But I think the number of clergymen is decreasing and sometimes we need to end silly traditions for reasons like this. If we continue to lose male priests, I don't see why individual parishes should have to suffer because the Vatican is such a stickler for the rules.

Side: yes

Yes, that way when they molest the choir boys it would be a little more normal. Ok, take that with a grain of salt.

Side: Yes
4 points

women should be allowed because we are all human and so should all be able to do the same things (: xox

Side: No
4 points

i think women should be allowed to be catholic priest because everyone is a human and should all be treaded the same

Side: yes
4 points

I think women should be allowed to be priests in the catholic because everyone should have a chance of what they what to be in there life.

Side: yes
4 points

there is evidence that in the early church women had high positions

additionally, you cannot argue that Jesus chose only men as disciples because women were truly his disciples-when Jesus was resurrected it was the women who he first appeared to and the male disciple Judas was the one who denied even knowing Jesus...

Side: yes
Godsmacker(3) Disputed
2 points

Can you name for me any female desciples? I didn't think so....Thank you

Side: No
mikester1571 Disputed
1 point

The only reason that women were not apostles is because they would not receive the respect that men received during this time, now that there is equality among men and women, this argument holds no value.

Side: Yes

If women are ever allowed to become Catholic priests, I will become an alter boy ;)

Side: yes
3 points

i am not a christian, yet i have heard and seen a documentry on whether a woman should be a priest or not and on the video it shows that in rome underground,they buried christians there. that was when being a christian was against the law and i saw that on the walls in that place there was a picture of a man with his hand on these womans arm and the woman was wearing priest robes, so that shows that back then women were valued as priests in rome, where the pope is. also in the bible you have a fellow called paul and in the bible it seems that he is very sexist, but in one bible quote (romans 16 v1) he says that he sent Sister Phoebe to Rome to preach and that was very important as in rome back then, the majority of people were not christians and a WOMAN was used to preach to those people and she must have done a pretty good job as the pope lives in rome. so all the women and guys who say women shouldn't be priests should punch themselves in the face for being soooo stupid. ha

Side: Yes
2 points

Wow that took you a long time to write I bet! I totally agree with all you have said.

Side: Yes
2 points

The bible is not meant to be deciphered literally. otherwise gays would go to hell and we'd be eating skin and drinking blood at church.

Side: yes
2 points

Women should be allowed to be priests. The Vatican says they shouldn't, but I don't agree. Jesus never said "women can't be priests and should be automatically excommunicated if attempted."

Side: Yes
2 points

God made man and woman and he created them to be equal, god is looking down on you and if he was here he would want everybody at peace and doing the thing they love, it does not matter if your black or white, male or female, you all deserve to be at peace with god and your inner peace.

Side: Yes
2 points

I bet you that 90% of the people who say NO to this argument are male. I honestly feel like the majority of them are angry because women want the right to something that only men have (right now at least). I don't think it's really fair that women can't be priest.

The priesthood is a job that I've considered very much. Not really considered, but really really wanted to do. I began to take it very seriously, and I felt very upset because it was the only occupation I had ever considered that I really couldn't do because I wasn't allowed to.

I'm going to be honest, and I don't mean any disrespect to my Church, but I think it's pretty stupid that only men can be priest. I really want to dedicate my life to God as a priest, but I can't because I have a vagina. I don't see the point in restricting it.

We, Christians, are all about loving one another and accepting one another, so why can't women be accepted into this higher role in the Church?

Side: Yes
1 point

‘I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve’The Bible 1 Timothy: 2 : 12-3.

Side: Yes
1 point

I think women should be allowed to be catholic priests because men are just as equal as women

Side: Yes
1 point

i think that women should be allowed to a Catholic priest because men are always a priests and Jesus never said that they couldn't.

Side: Yes
1 point

It is just discrimination if you don't allow woman to be priest then your gay

Side: Yes
4 points

1 Timothy 2:11-14

1Corinthians 14:34-38

1 Corinthians 11:3

Read 'em and weep

Side: No
mikester1571 Disputed
1 point

All of those were overturned by Galatians 3:28, men and women are equal, there is not one who is a master over the other.

Side: Yes
4 points

All catholics have a share in the priesthood of Christ by baptism; we are already "priests." Now women who believe the Church to be doctrinally infallible won't ask for ordination. It's a matter of valuing the call we already have. Those who believe the Church is simply a human institution can only seek ordination under false pretense of faith. They can join the man-made "free-catholic" churches and become their priests, however.

Side: No
2 points

Christ Called MEN, and the Church had ability to make laws, "you are peter and on this rock" etc.

Side: No
4 points

Also I read this other fantasy book called Harry Potter and in it muggles weren't allowed to go to the wizarding academy called Hogwarts, so I think only wizards should be able go because it said so in the book.

Side: yes
4 points

by the way this is going against your point. sorry but harry potter has nothing to do with female priests

Side: yes
2 points

ALL YOU PUNKKS DONT REALIZE THAT STATE AND RELIGION ARE SEPERATE

WOMEN CANT BE CATHOLIC PRIESTS PERIOD. IF U DONT LIKE IT TAKE IT UP WITH JESUS

Side: No
2 points

All of Christs disciples were men, so why should women be priests.

Side: No
pinkalotk(2) Disputed
1 point

Women are just as good as men and if there were women priests it would liven things up a bit.

Side: Yes
mikester1571 Disputed
1 point

I strongly disagree, there were many women followers of Christ, the only reason Jesus picked his apostles to be men, is so that they would receive the respect that women of that time did not. Now that women and men are equal, there should be no reason to allow women to take their place in the clergy alongside men.

Side: Yes
2 points

Im right, your Wrong get used to it!

Just accept it,

If you want an answer ,Read the Bible,

If You have one!!

Side: No
2 points

Christ Called MEN, and the Church had ability to make laws, "you are peter and on this rock" etc.

Side: No
1 point

rubish they shouldnt fvbnkdfjbkdfkbdjkflbkldfgkldfgjkldfjklgjkdfbjkldfbjkld

Side: No
1 point

Read the bible, women are a "helpmeat" they are here to help and to pass on our sead....

Side: No
0 points

No. And we could solve a lot of problems by keeping men from being Catholic priests too. I say, only dogs, eunuchs, and hermaphrodites should be allowed to be priest.

Side: No
0 points

Because babes belong in the kitchen. LOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL

Side: No