Should women who get married take their husbands last name?
It has become increasingly common for women to not take their husbands name after marriage. If women are subscribing to the institute of marriage should this tradition be followed as well?
We can exclude hyphenation from the debate.
Yes
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:) the similarity between women and property is astounding. The relations seem to follow the times as well, although it lags behind. Its becoming closer to a wage-slave sort of relationship with men as the owning class, compared to woman basically being the absolute property of a single man. Have you ever meet a women who doesn't like to be dominated? yea you have to do it with in a certain proximity to what she considers respectful and seductive; but there is a reason why nice guys finish last. nice guys provide a sense of security and only become attractive after a series of assholes have taught the girl what is safe or alternatively, and also the much more unlikely case, a women becomes attracted to a sense of a more open and real emotional intimacy with a nice guy.Generally sex, material wealth, being high on the social ladder(which is hierarchical) , emotionally tough/distant but still capable of her connecting, humor etc are all you need. I'm half serious, half joking. Side: It's a choice
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Yes. If the current trend of taking both names continues, here is what we'll end up with: Jessica Mulhaney Mallory Mulhaney-O'Brian Jessie Mulhaney-O'Brian-Smith Hillary Mulhaney-O'Brian-Smith-Anderson Bridget Mulhaney-O'Brian-Smith-Anderson-Cooper Naomi Mulhaney-O'Brian-Smith-Anderson-Cooper- Sara Mulhaney-O'Brian-Smith-Anderson-Cooper- And it will continue indefinitely. Or, they can just take the mother's name. But how is that any less sexist than taking the father's name? Side: yes
If they are so worried about overhyphenated names, why should the woman always be the one to take the man's name and not the other way around? If they are not worried about overhyphenated names, why should anyone be made to take the other's name anyway? I know some cultures give the children of one gender the mother's last name, and the children of the other gender get the father's. Only as a collective is the family known by two hyphenated names, and each person keeps the same surname their entire lives. I think this sounds like a decent and fairly simple compromise. Side: It's a choice
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This whole "Easily Offended" thing is a complete joke. A person is totally out of control when they're constantly offended by things that people don't even know are offensive. Taking the husbands last name at marriage is offensive now are you people for real? It's like you're in love with pointing the 'how dare you' finger at people. Save your energy for people who really hate you. When a person gives you the middle finger or calls you shit for brains that is offensive. Anyone in here ever hear the phrase 'Take it easy?' Talk about thin skin Side: yes
Of course they should. If you are getting married then you should understand that a great deal of that contract depends on solidarity. Forget sexism. Men are not using marriage as a tool to subvert women. People get married and establish a family, not sign a bunch of agreements to help the wife become more independent. It makes no sense for them not to take the name. Perhaps, an exception might be for female celebrities who are already established, but then, if they are already established, what difference does it make if they change their name? Side: yes
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Nobody is forced to change their name when they get married. It's usually part of Christian beliefs. There are cases where the man takes the woman's last name - they just aren't as frequent as the other way around. How is there sexism in it? From wikipedia "Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century,[1] is the belief or attitude that one gender or sex is inferior to, less competent, or less valuable than the other. It can also refer to hatred of, or prejudice towards, either sex as a whole (see misogyny and misandry), or the application of stereotypes of masculinity in relation to men, or of femininity in relation to women.[2] It is also called male and female chauvinism." Side: yes
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I dispute your argument on the basis that you provide no reasoning. Your answer equated to: Indeed: Should this be the way it is? Victor:01 No - it shouldn't be that way. Indeed: Why not? Victor01: Because it shouldn't be! Not very helpful in further a discussion/debate Side: yes
"As Catherine Rampell wrote this week in the New York Times, a group of Dutch researchers recently found that women who change their name at marriage make nearly $400,000 less over their lifetimes than women who do not. To add insult to injury, they are viewed as older, less educated and unmotivated compared to women who kept their names when they tied the knot." -Politics Daily On top of that, women who have historic last names might want to keep and not take up some last name that means nothing to their heritage. Side: No
no, my mother took my fathers and my longtime girlfriend says she will take mine, but this is not an issue that anyone has a right to tell a person what to do. its just like gay marriage or abortion in my opinion. yes, you have a right to disagree with that persons choice and you should voice that choice if you feel it you need to express yourself. BUT!!!!! you have no choice to make a person comply with what you believe in!!!!!! we have (some) individual rights that no one should ever make us live by. This is a CHOICE !!!!! Side: It's a choice
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The point is that, aside from tradition, there is no real reason or significant advantage in doing so. I am from Spain, where this just does not exist. You live throughout your life with the same last names -as we have two. I am married to an American and I kept my last name because (a) I wanted to; (b) dropping it is something unheard of over here, I would have had to explain to everyone such a bizarre, sexist thing to do; (c) there's no legal option to do so, except for a costly and long, long legal procedure. So far, I have not been able to find a single disadvantage to this system except for having to explain to some Americans friends why I didn't do it over and over. Also, children here take BOTH of their parents last names, and parents decide which one goes first, the father's or the mother's. Side: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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