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Yep Really???
Debate Score:56
Arguments:58
Total Votes:76
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Slap Shot is Admirably Strong

Slap Shot's not fleeing, he is standing strong like the soldier he is, in defiance of God, denying God is there. I don't see how dying is standing strong, but he's still proud of himself for standing. He doesn't realize that what he is actually doing is fleeing into Hell...he is putting on a great show of standing strong, and he really believes he is standing without a crutch......the fact that he is bound to fall soon and his pride is his crutch which cannot stop him from falling is irrelevant in his mind.  You still have to admit he is putting on an admirable show of strength.  Most people are afraid of death's punishing degradation of life, but Slap Shot is standing strong saying "bring it on, I'll knock it in the teeth and have a go with it".......and the crowd cheers!!!!!!  So is he really strong, or only putting on a show?

Yep

Side Score: 28
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Really???

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1 point

yep !!! ... "standing strong against "something that does not exist" ... lol .... what a wasted life ....

and then ?? ... and then comes the second death ... I'd call that insult to injury .. pfft !!

Side: Yep
1 point

I don't agree with everything SlapShot says or does, but anyone who can stand up to people who threaten they're going to hell and can emerge from those discussions unphased is actually stronger than those hanging on to conventional religion.

You don't want to hear that, of course. But I don't care. Your threats of hell don't scare me either.

Side: Yep
dadman(1703) Clarified
2 points

"Your threats of hell don't scare me either" .... Duu, it's a warning - not a threat ..

no Christian has the ability to send you to Hell ....

BTW If there is no Hell well then don't worry about it .....

Pfft !! ... yall runnin skeerd of what does not exist ?? lol ........ S L E E P - W E L L - XD

Side: Yep
dadman(1703) Disputed
1 point

can emerge from those discussions unphased is actually stronger than those hanging on to Blah Blah Blah ........... indeed: every rejection of the Light of the World (Jesus) leads to another degree of hardening of the heart .... see Romans 1:18-32

Side: Really???
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

Oh, I forgot to mention...if I threaten to ban you, that is a real threat. If I say I'm going to ban you, that is more than a threat, it is a promise assuming the Lord will give me enough time to ban you and you will live long enough to know you got banned. I'm going to ban you now

Side: Yep
1 point

Slapshot is obnoxious at times he does stand true to what he believes .

Side: Yep
dadman(1703) Clarified
1 point

Pfft !! .... Satan and his demons "stand true to what they believe" ....

notice L&G;how the Devil's children protect their own and circle their wagons ?

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lol ...... LadyLinkstar = We do not believe in anything !

What do you think we do ? Gather underground and talk about how much we don't believe in God ?

pfft !! .... at least Slot HAS a belief ...... atheism (there IS NO God) is INDEED that belief

Side: Yep
dadman(1703) Disputed
1 point

we Gather underground and talk about how much we don't believe in God ? Pfft !!

no ..... you gather on the debate forms and tell us how much you don't believe in God 24/7/365 morning / noon and night omG !!! ....... hate to tell you this but no skin off our noses ... you're the ones runnin to Hell ... not us

Side: Really???
LadyLinkstar(415) Clarified Banned
1 point

1. Jesus ! you are still going !

2. All you do is post stuff about religion ! Are you really that surprised that we reply to it ?Not everyone agrees with you.

Side: Yep
1 point

The rich man and Lazarus .... Luke 16:19-31 .. a testimony of one surprised to be in Hell ... full context ... enjoy

Side: Yep
shaash(434) Banned
1 point

I just realized something. Everyone that posted has been banned.

Side: Yep
-3 points
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

It is a compliment and it is not an insult. We all deserve to die and burn in Hell for being sinners. We are all falling down except that God hold us up. There is no insult intended. Everybody likes to put on a show, I am no different.....always thought I would have made a great actor if I applied myself to it, did some acting all through school....some in college....but not serious, mostly little comedy skits put together with friends. The plays in Bible college were fun, but not so much for show as to deliver a message......but I have to admit I sure like the spotlight and the cheering...

I'm terrible at softball and basketball, but I sure loved it when the crowd roared after a guy hit a long fly to me thinking I would bobble it...it was a foul, and as soon as it left the bat I knew I could get it...caught it running full speed, almost diving, far out of bounds, the inning was over, and the crowd cheered me all the way in from the field. No insult intended, I'm human too.........but look at all the little cockroaches coming out of the woodwork with nothing better to do than try to tear up some rotted wood to get a bite of food. I had to smash a couple and get them out of here......it's hard to get an honest discussion on here.

Side: Really???
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

Jesus said "Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me."

Saying you would believe if He would show himself to you is asking Him to break the door down. You unlock the door from the inside. He won't force you to hear Him and He won't force you to open the door and He won't knock it down.

You see? He let us kill Him, He died for us, now we have to believe He took our death and will be our life if we receive Him by faith as He is, the Living God who conquered death for us....and if you will hear his voice and open the door to Him, He will come into you and be in you a well of living waters springing up to eternal life which is the gift of God. Life means God is good, we can have eternal life now.

My death is gone, Jesus took it on Himself, paid my price, and I heard His soft and gentle voice calling for me to believe, knew He was knocking at my door, and almost in shock at the reality of my need, I opened the door to receive Him and now He lives in me and it's Him who is calling out to you to be saved through faith in the blood He gave to pay your price, to buy you back from what we all have earned, eternity separated from God in Hell.

Side: Yep
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

People don't believe when they understand the message only for one reason: it is because the message is life changing, and if received, there is no going back...they are afraid to trust God and believe He will provide adequately for them to believe it is worth it for them to leave their old ways behind. This is why I say people who will not believe are cowards, and you really don't seem to be a coward. Nobody on this site, including me, has the backbone to give out every personal detail short of social security number publicly. In my fifteen years or so on the internet, I have only seen one other person do what you have done here....and I respect you for that.

Side: Yep
shaash(434) Banned
5 points

Slapshot is a fake. I don't know if his religious views are, but he acts to seem tuff. "I laid my super hot girlfriend". No one cares bro. "I play hockey and am strong". Cool story bro. "I go to college in the hood of Detroit". Congrats?

Honestly, everything he says is very polarized and childish.

Side: Really???
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Listen idiot, I grew up North of Detroit and was a licensed realtor in Northern Oakland County, Pontiac, and St. Clair Shores. I did a lot of investor flip deals in Detroit with partners and a late night "We Buy Houses" tv commercial. I spent a lot of time hanging and having fun in Detroit between shuffling the paper work and viewing properties. You can't make up such an intricate story to portray a fake persona when the facts can be so easily verified.

Few people have the guts to divulge so much personal info online...I sure won't do it. I think punks like you are just jealous little cowards.

How's that?

Side: Yep
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

Since you were only being an idiot and were not using profanity, I unbanned you.

Side: Yep
SlapShot(2608) Disputed
-3 points
Hellno(17753) Disputed Banned
5 points

Too bad no one believes a word you say SlapNuts.

Side: Really???
shaash(434) Clarified Banned
2 points

OK dude. TBH, if you send me a pic of Robyn, I'll stop hating. I'll even come out and say I was stupid and SlapShot is an absolute savage.

Side: Yep
shaash(434) Disputed Banned
1 point

Listen, this is what I imagine you looking like based on the details you gave us:

Supporting Evidence: SlapShot Revealed. [MEME WARNING] (postmediaprovince.files.wordpress.com)
Side: Really???
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

Sorry, I had to ban them for being foul mouth idiots. I'll vouch for your credentials, I know the Tri-County area well enough to know you can't possibly be making so much up when it all fits together. People like those buffoons are just jealous.

Side: Yep
Cuaroc(8829) Banned
3 points

Aww how cute Saintnow and Slapshot the star-crossed lovers of CreateDebate.

Side: Really???
Cuaroc(8829) Banned
2 points

Oh look FromWithin is stalking me!

Side: Really???
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Another jealous little punk cockroach comes out of the woodwork and gets his cowardly little tail smashed as he's kicked out the door.

Side: Yep
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
2 points

Another jealous little punk cockroach comes out of the woodwork and gets his cowardly little tail smashed as he's kicked out the door.

Side: Yep
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Another jealous little punk cockroach comes out of the woodwork and gets his cowardly little tail smashed as he's kicked out the door.

Side: Yep
1 point

btw: ..... John MacArthur clearly teaches that every believer is NOT assured a home in Heaven. According to MacArthur, one's salvation is DEPENDENT upon the life he or she lives. This is the damnable heresy of Lordship Salvation!

MacArthur teaches that the life he or she lives is a REFLECTION of whether one has salvation or not ... not a means to it ...... no one "earns" salvation

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Not every "believer" is an actual believer ... some are tares and some are wheat ... they indeed look the same on the exterior ... a similarity Angels will indeed some day separate .... However 1 John 3 lists many tests that can be applied as to whether one is an actual believer .... an inward transformation toward righteousness / a grievance toward sin and a love for and obedience to God's moral law just to name a few

Side: Really???
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

MacArthur is a heretic and I'm not interested in the things he says trying to distract from his heresies. This debate is about Mr. Slap Shot, not MacArthur, and I like to believe you can make focused comments in line with the OP.

Side: Yep
dadman(1703) Disputed
1 point

PS: .... no, you cannot live a sinless life ... no matter how much you try ...

a believer still lives in a body of flesh (where sin abides) ...

are you saying that you have no sin ??

Side: Yep
1 point

You may ask .. How can a God of love send people to hell .. Is this an inconsistency on the part of God? . . . The fact is .. because He is a God of love and justice .. He invented hell . . . . But hell was not made for people . . Jesus said .. it was prepared for the devil and his angels ( Matthew 25:41 ) . . . J.I. Packer writes: .. Scripture sees hell as self-chosen .. Hell appears as God's gesture of respect for human choice . . . All receive what they actually choose .. either to be with God forever .. worshipping Him .. or .. without God forever .. worshipping themselves . . . . C.S. Lewis said: .. There are only two kinds of people in the end .. those who say to God .. Thy will be done . . . and those to whom God says .. in the end .. thy will be done . . . All who are in hell choose it .. Without that . . self-choice there could be no hell ......... Greg Laurie

Side: Really???
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

C.S. Lewis is another heretic....and I was one of his biggest fans for many years, as well as a fan of MacArthur. It was because I lacked good solid teaching and went along with whatever charismatic.....and by that I mean charming manner of leadership, not spiritually gifted from God..... teacher tickled my ears at the time.

Side: Yep
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

I don't want sectarian leaders or their teachings in my debates. I am a Biblicist, I follow Jesus Christ, and His word is the standard...not CS Lewis or John MacArthur.

Side: Really???
1 point

four marks of a Hell-bound man

Jesus: So it will be at the end of the age ..

the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous ..

and will throw them into the furnace of fire .. in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth

.... Matthew 13:49-50

Side: Really???
1 point

Who are you to stand in judgment of others???????????????????????

Side: Really???
dadman(1703) Clarified
1 point

Don't look at me .... I'm not your judge .... God is .. you will stand (kneel) in account to Him ..

you will be judged by HIS standard .... not yours

Who are you to stand in judgment of others ....

the same salvation I have received is the same salvation you need

Side: Yep
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

I'm the judge in this courtroom, and you are expelled for incessant obnoxious behavior. This is twice in a row I saw you make a brief comment without using profanity....do it a few more times, and maybe I'll stop banning you. One more time with your foul mouth in my debates and I will judge you to be incorrigible and incapable of showing me enough respect that I should have you in my courtroom at all.

Side: Yep
Saintnow(3684) Clarified
1 point

I'm the judge in this courtroom, and you are expelled for incessant obnoxious behavior. This is twice in a row I saw you make a brief comment without using profanity....do it a few more times, and maybe I'll stop banning you. One more time with your foul mouth in my debates and I will judge you to be incorrigible and incapable of showing me enough respect that I should have you in my courtroom at all.

Side: Yep
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Why did you ask this question? Are you feeling guilty...................................

Side: Yep
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
-1 points

I stand in judgement and have found you guilty of being disruptive and you are forever banished from my presence here.

Suppose this was you talking to God this way.....then He says: "Depart from me, ye worker of iniquity, for I never knew you". Then you are forever banished to never again have anything good to indicate that God is good, and you get what you want...eternity in the fire of Hell where you can believe with nothing to contradict your belief that God is being unfair to you when He only gave you what you asked for....you got what you deserved here, you won't be back...and don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

Side: Yep