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50
28
Forever! He's a fraud!
Debate Score:78
Arguments:69
Total Votes:79
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So... How Long Should We Wait For Jesus to Return?

Forever!

Side Score: 50
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He's a fraud!

Side Score: 28

The Anti-Christ or The False Prophet have not shown up yet. Prophecy must be fulfilled first.

Side: Forever!
1 point

How long are you willing to wait?

Side: Forever!

Well I am not a Christian so this doesnt apply to me to much but I would wait for a long time if it means I get to see heaven come down to earth and form a second heaven amd earth together as one.

Side: Forever!
1 point

The devil has been around for the last 1,000 years and is about to become known, Israel has almost rebuilt their temple, I suggest this scripture from the bible: And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

God has allowed satan to be free for 1,000 years, the popes have been around for almost 1,000 years, in 2059 to be exact, it will have been 1,000 years. I am sure the pope is the voice of the devil. The devil is going to do all he can to turn people away from god, and there will be so many that will fall to him, because he will claim to be god, practically.

As long as you believe jesus rose from the dead, and took our sins for us, then you still have faith.

I beg you, though, do not believe the second coming of Christ as his real appearance.

Side: He's a fraud!
1 point

The bible said he would make a true appearance though. It said every eye will see him. Also what you are talking about is the reign of the devil which will be short lived because Jesus is supposed to come down and wage war with Satan once and for all.

Side: Forever!
2 points

Buddhism has a better one. The Maitereya Buddha will be born, achieve enlightenment and preach when the teachings of dharma are long forgotten.

Side: Forever!
1 point

I believe in this one :) I prefer it to the Christian second coming because it does not involve the non believers going to hell.

Side: He's a fraud!

Forever is what he is asking but I don't have forever, so I say whatever.

Side: Forever!
1 point

Well right now He is waiting for the last couple of people to convert to Christ and it could possibly take a couple of years for them to convert. I heard a prophecy not to long ago about Christ's return but He is soon going to arrive but we don't know when this will happen. The signs are evident that He is returning soon.

Side: Forever!
5 points

L O L

Side: Forever!
1 point

What is funny about the days or deciption and pestilence? I dont see what is funny here.

Side: Forever!
1 point

What's so funny Hellno?

Side: Forever!

Not forever. We just don't KNOW when He'll return. When Christ comes down on Earth (the Rapture), it is said that all the believers will rise into Heaven and He'll close the sky again. The remaining people on earth will have seven years of abundance, then seven years of absolute torture; there will be no peace at all on earth.

Side: Forever!
Hellno(17753) Disputed
1 point

So.... whats he been doing for the past two thousand years? I'm sure this Rapture probably requires a lot of paperwork.... I mean, if you're going to torture and murder millions of people I guess you better have all your T's crossed and I's dotted huh?

Side: He's a fraud!
Sitara(11080) Disputed
1 point

No. The Rapture is part of the Second coming which happens "after the tribulation of those days (Matthew 24:29)", and "shall not happen until the falling away happens first, and the man of sin is revealed (2 Thessalonians 2:3)". Pretribulationism is a lie and a false doctrine. The church will go through the 70th week of Daniel. Make sure that you know Jesus.

Side: He's a fraud!
2 points

Imma little tired of waiting.... he's not really comin' back.

Side: He's a fraud!
OddHannah(313) Disputed
2 points

The events that must occur in revalation have not occured. We have not had an Anti-Christ and none of the seal seem to have been broken yet. Maybe a few have but more things need to happen in order for us to know Jesus is on his way.

Side: Forever!
Hellno(17753) Disputed
1 point

That's not the question now is it? How long should we wait? How long before we can call bullshit on the whole thing? Another 2000 years? 4000? 10,000? Hell, we'll kill ourselves before he ever gets to.

Side: He's a fraud!

I am NOT saying He's a fraud but..., if He does comeback, He's going to be looking for pay back for that "cross" incident. Do you really want to be around for that ;)

Side: He's a fraud!
1 point

We shouldn't wait at all. Nothing to wait for.

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Side: He's a fraud!

I believe that while he may of been a wise and good person he was not the son of God.

Side: He's a fraud!