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Well I am not a Christian so this doesnt apply to me to much but I would wait for a long time if it means I get to see heaven come down to earth and form a second heaven amd earth together as one.
May his Power and Might shine before you like the Holy Scepter of The Gods.
The Strength of Lord Almighty God's Voice is like that of a Trumpet, and with the vigor of a seven headed Dragon.
As told in the Prophecy, when the Believers fall away from faith, the great beasts and the Four Horsemen Lords of the Apocalypse will arise and bring about the DOOM of all mankind!!
Heed this warning, or you will SUFFER forever under the most horrible torments of HELL.
The burning will never stop. Your eyes will melt. Your face will take alight and burn forever into ash, the unbearable pain causing you to scream endlessly, your throat parched, as if stung by thousands of bees, the insides of your body stinging as if thousands of horrible tiny spiders were crawling around your insides... only because THEY ARE.
FOR THE TORMENTS OF HELL ARE REAL. It is not a dream, it is REALITY and Lord Satan Lucifer, Lord of Hell and the Darkest Abyss will forever mock you, even as he himself rolls in torment and agony.
Fear Doomsday. Fear the Apocalypse. Have faith, so that when the Army of Holy Angels storms the Earth and wipes out all sin, for humanity ITSELF is sin, we can forever rejoice in heaven, above the earth.
If you do not have fear for the might of Lord God Yahew, if you lack faith, you will suffer.
This is more than a carrot and a stick. This is what will ACTUALLY happen to you on DOOMSDAY.
So heed my warning, girl. Listen to the Wise Words of Srom. Fear for the end.
I honestly tried to phrase it as biblically as possible.
Maybe I exaggerated, but only to bring out how silly it is, right?
Even if you tone it down 20%, it's still pretty fucking crazy, isn't it? I couldn't take someone seriously if they actually believed even 50% of what I said above. It's completely insane.
You didnt phrase it quite biblically. You just mocked it. It doesnt sound silly. At least what the bible said doesnt. Also your insane may differ from other peoples views of insanity. So thats your opinion.
The four horsemen are most likely not literal horsemen. I am sure they are just signs of the coming of Christ. Also you only go to hell if Satan can bring you into the darkness.
The fourhorse men are just analogies for war, starvation, high prices and death I believe. I think they all exist and when Jesus prepares to come this will intensify.
Don't give in! You can overcome this! Pray to God so that He can restore your faith and maybe I can do something. Don't give into what people are saying to you. If you do fall away from the faith you would fulfill a prophecy because it the last days people will fall away from the faith. You need to stand your ground because if we do we will be blessed!
The devil has been around for the last 1,000 years and is about to become known, Israel has almost rebuilt their temple, I suggest this scripture from the bible: And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
God has allowed satan to be free for 1,000 years, the popes have been around for almost 1,000 years, in 2059 to be exact, it will have been 1,000 years. I am sure the pope is the voice of the devil. The devil is going to do all he can to turn people away from god, and there will be so many that will fall to him, because he will claim to be god, practically.
As long as you believe jesus rose from the dead, and took our sins for us, then you still have faith.
I beg you, though, do not believe the second coming of Christ as his real appearance.
The bible said he would make a true appearance though. It said every eye will see him. Also what you are talking about is the reign of the devil which will be short lived because Jesus is supposed to come down and wage war with Satan once and for all.
Yes it did, but you never know if the bible holds half truths, because the bible says satan rules this world, is it not logical to believe he has had some influence on ALL religions?
Satan is supposed to know the bible better than anyone currently on earth. Better than any human being. There is no plan good enough that he could make.
What if the vision was just of a normal human being who has risen to power in a tyrannical one world government and it last for 500 years?
What if jesus doesn't come back? He said he would be with us until the end of the ages, and the age of pisces is pretty much over and we are transitioning into the age of aquarius.
What if we are to find holiness within ourselves, instead of waiting for it to come to us?
But we're all god, there have been others like jesus, who have been purported to have done miracles, buddha, Vishnu, and quatzacl (Aztec leader guy) were 3 others just like jesus, which meansssssss
we can all be like jesus, even jesus said, we can be like jesus
It is the age of losing an external deity for the inner holiness
We are not God. We are not omnipotent or all-knowing. We cant just spawn an earth from a void of nothing. We can be like Jesus. Meaning be nice and follow his teachings. The external diety must exist and bring you your fate according to the bible.
Transendence? Like a pinnacle of perfection? I dont have a reason to think it really can be achieve but more likely activated. That still doesnt disprove the fact that God claims to be existant and wants you to join him.
yes activated, but once it is activated and you realize everything organic is connected in a way, from flies to rocks, then that is when you will achieve how god wants us to think, and in my beliefs, the law of the earth is attained from heaven, and heavens laws are attained from the tao, which is basically what god is in the Christian view
We are all built up of molecules. I mean we are all connected. I dont know much about Taoism but I think your God may be more of an inner person amd the Christian God is more of an outer person.
Nah I don't have a god just the force that governs, which is internal and external, but you cant describe it, for the tao that can be named, is not the true tao.
Meaning: just like god, you can not describe it, only experience it
Oh thats pretty cool. I always thought that a pinnacle or perfection could be achieved in sports like if you are playing tennis if you activate your transendence mind set you will play with sheer perfection.
Well right now He is waiting for the last couple of people to convert to Christ and it could possibly take a couple of years for them to convert. I heard a prophecy not to long ago about Christ's return but He is soon going to arrive but we don't know when this will happen. The signs are evident that He is returning soon.
You don't see what's funny? Well that's odd, Hannah. You think the last couple of people are going to convert here in the next couple of years? Hahahaha!
Not forever. We just don't KNOW when He'll return. When Christ comes down on Earth (the Rapture), it is said that all the believers will rise into Heaven and He'll close the sky again. The remaining people on earth will have seven years of abundance, then seven years of absolute torture; there will be no peace at all on earth.
So.... whats he been doing for the past two thousand years? I'm sure this Rapture probably requires a lot of paperwork.... I mean, if you're going to torture and murder millions of people I guess you better have all your T's crossed and I's dotted huh?
No. The Rapture is part of the Second coming which happens "after the tribulation of those days (Matthew 24:29)", and "shall not happen until the falling away happens first, and the man of sin is revealed (2 Thessalonians 2:3)". Pretribulationism is a lie and a false doctrine. The church will go through the 70th week of Daniel. Make sure that you know Jesus.
The events that must occur in revalation have not occured. We have not had an Anti-Christ and none of the seal seem to have been broken yet. Maybe a few have but more things need to happen in order for us to know Jesus is on his way.
That's not the question now is it? How long should we wait? How long before we can call bullshit on the whole thing? Another 2000 years? 4000? 10,000? Hell, we'll kill ourselves before he ever gets to.
Why does it matter? Waiting is going to have to happen if you die. You cant do anythin when you die. Jesus has really only been gone for maybe about 2 days. Not to long amd even the time frame given in the bible may be a metaphorical phase. I will wait and hope I get delivered and live on the second earth. A combination of heaven and earth.
I am NOT saying He's a fraud but..., if He does comeback, He's going to be looking for pay back for that "cross" incident. Do you really want to be around for that ;)