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Yes, it is fair. No, it is stupid.
Debate Score:128
Arguments:109
Total Votes:135
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 Yes, it is fair. (55)
 
 No, it is stupid. (51)

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So should Incest be legalized by now or not?

I have come to acknowledge that the same arguments used to legalize homosexuality flies for incest, so why not legalize it?

Yes, it is fair.

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No, it is stupid.

Side Score: 63
3 points

I honestly have no problem with it. It doesn't hurt anybody

Side: Yes, it is fair.
1 point

Thank you for seeing my side. .

Side: Yes, it is fair.
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
1 point

Aren't you a Christian?

Side: No, it is stupid.
BigOats(1449) Disputed
1 point

It can create a precedent for adopting even more lunatic laws.

And that will hurt everybody, except maybe the perverts.

Side: No, it is stupid.
Centifolia(1319) Disputed
1 point

Im sorry, but please provide a good reason why legalizing incest is wrong

Side: Yes, it is fair.
Troy8(2433) Disputed
1 point

It can hurt many people, most immediately the members of the family of those participating in incest. The children resulting can be hurt.

Side: No, it is stupid.
Intangible(4934) Disputed
1 point

How could this hurt the children? Explain

Side: Yes, it is fair.
2 points

It should definitely be legal. There is literally no reason why two or more people shouldn't be able to love each other and participate in a consenting relationship. The only remotely plausible argument against incest is "inbreeding causing deformed children", which, in itself, isn't a very strong argument, and it only covers heterosexual incest, as of course, homosexuals cannot create children. There are plenty worse situations that have a higher risk for this to happen: the woman being over 40, having genetic disorders in either parent's genetic code, being a teen, using drugs/alcohol etc. With just plain incest, the risk only raises a few measly percentages from a non-incestuous childbirth, a change so small, it just doesn't even matter. There is only one, extremely rare case where there can be problems, and that is having a long line of incestuous children, spanning several generations, which is highly unlikely to happen in this day and age. Plus, we have several methods of contraception that can help reduce the chance of pregnancy any further, and if the incestuous couple wants children, they could just always adopt. We have way too many people on this planet anyway.

Side: Yes, it is fair.

Reasons that people insists on banning incest

1. Because inbreeding results into defective children

The chances of producing defective children occurs to everyone. By this logic, are you saying that people with raised chances of defective birth should be condemned?

2. Because Westermarck Effect says that close family members should not

Same argument was raised towards homosexuals and same argument will be raised again. Be my guest.

3. Because it is disgusting

Thats not a valid reason

Side: Yes, it is fair.
BigOats(1449) Disputed
1 point

Is incest a criminal offense in the USA?

This debate is basically about legalization of incestuous marriage, the debate creator has confirmed this.

Side: No, it is stupid.
Centifolia(1319) Disputed
0 points

Is incest a criminal offense in the USA?

Yes it is

Plenty of people has been arrested and imprisoned for said relationships. But my question is, it is really right to ilegalize incest?

Illegal isnt always immoral

Side: Yes, it is fair.

Maybe we can start slow and only legalize gay incest. ;)

BTW, most people who want to legalize incest have a hot sibling ;)

Side: Yes, it is fair.
BigOats(1449) Disputed
1 point

Start slow..................I have the impression you're enjoying this.

Side: No, it is stupid.

I'm a conservative. I don't like to rush things. I'd rather keep the old ways the way they are for as long as possible. At least until I die. After that, you people can do whatever you want. ;)

Side: No, it is stupid.

At the moment I can not think of an argument against homosexual incest other than I think it is wrong, which is the same argument that I get mad at others for using.

Side: Yes, it is fair.

Maybe you can say that currently society is so against the concept of gay incest that it would put a lot of pressure on the incetous gay couple to the point where they break up and one of them, if not both of them, will end up all butt hurt ;)

Side: Yes, it is fair.
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Other than the birth defects, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I mean, I don't think incestuous marriage has a chance in the western world at the moment because of the current morals of western civilization. Maybe in Canada? I don't know. I see little problem with it than any other relationship.

Side: Yes, it is fair.
1 point

Incest is best! :D

Seriously though, who fucking cares. As long as they don't procreate let them be.

Side: Yes, it is fair.
BigOats(1449) Disputed
2 points

I don't care, as long as they don't change the laws.

Each insane law that is adopted, works against law as a whole.

Side: No, it is stupid.
Stryker(849) Disputed
1 point

If there is a law against incest, legalizing would remove one law. This is like how allowing homosexual marriage is removing laws against it, lowing the total number of laws. If that's what you are getting at I agree.

Side: Yes, it is fair.
1 point

If family members marry each other, no harm comes to anyone else in society.

Side: Yes, it is fair.
3 points

No. Children conceived from incest have an extremely high chance of being mentally and/or physically impaired.

Side: No, it is stupid.
timber113(796) Disputed
2 points

My friend with Lupus has an extremely high chance of giving birth to someone with Lupus, same with my friend with sickle cell anaemia. I know a woman with aids and I have a hitory of asthma. Should all of us be barred from having children because our children will be physically impaired?

Side: Yes, it is fair.

Good argument, but the ones who would commit incest have other options when it comes to having a child. The ones who actually have disease already just have to try and hope for the best.

Side: No, it is stupid.
Sitara(11080) Disputed
1 point

Yes actually. .

Side: No, it is stupid.
Centifolia(1319) Disputed
1 point

If all your reason for going against their love is the chances of deformed offspring, then you should also condemn people who owns defective genes.

Also, under this logic, you are saying that people get married simply to reproduce. When it is not. People get wed to solidify their love. And if they truly love each other, it goes without saying that they know the risk of their relationship

Forbid them to have children, but do not go against their love. Problem solved

Side: Yes, it is fair.
sauh(1106) Disputed
1 point

In a historical context; children conceived from incest also have a high chance of being royalty. So....

Side: Yes, it is fair.
Intangible(4934) Disputed
1 point

You got your details wrong lol...I know what you are talking about though. and it's not a very high chance. No where near as high of a chance their is for the child to be defective.

Side: No, it is stupid.
1 point

Neither it nor homosexuality should be legalized.

Side: No, it is stupid.
timber113(796) Disputed
1 point

I know, but since one is, why not just do the other? .

Side: Yes, it is fair.
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
3 points

Why legalize prostitution when porn is legal? The retention of some form of morality.

Side: No, it is stupid.
Sitara(11080) Disputed
1 point

Same sex marriage should be legal actually. .

Side: Yes, it is fair.
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
0 points

Are you not a Bible believing Christian?

Side: No, it is stupid.
1 point

Exactly what is meant by legalizing incest?

As far as I understand, incest is not a criminal offense, in the USA and EU.

It certainly isn't in Russia.

If you meant legalizing incestuous marriage, then the answer is definitely no.

The main reason is, this will create another legal precedent, which can be then used to endorse laws that would be even more mad.

Remember, LGBT has already been able to implement the following:

- the toilet law, which allows boys into girl's restrooms, and vice versa, at schools.

- forcing the boy-scouts to accept gay troop leaders

- forcing small hotels to service gays against the owners' faith

- outlawing psychiatrists who aid gays in quitting their lifestyle

- attacks on Christian preachers, for citing the Bible in their churches

Side: No, it is stupid.
timber113(796) Disputed
1 point

If you meant legalizing incestuous marriage, then the answer is definitely no.

Yes, thought that was self explanatory.

The main reason is, this will create another legal precedent, which can be then used to endorse laws that would be even more mad.

That means the law is double standard then, and that discredits the law.

Side: Yes, it is fair.
BigOats(1449) Disputed
2 points

I can't get what you're saying...the laws themselves are usually unambiguous, at least they should be that way. The law that would legalize incestuous marriage, would do just that. Same thing as with gay marriage.

However, the consequences of adopting such laws can be quite disgusting, in countries where law is precedent - based.

Legalization of gay marriage was not actually about marriage, only a small percent of gays have got married, in places where it had become legal. Its main purpose was to create a legal precedent, and then build the LGBT law-bending agenda on this precedent.

They are already pushing for even more gay propaganda in schools.

After all, if gays are even allowed to marry, they must be the "norm", e.t.c.

Side: No, it is stupid.
1 point

Nope I don't like inbreds. Inbreds are subject to bullying for there appearance. However cousin incest have a much lower chance than Sister or brother incest.

Side: No, it is stupid.

Incest causes the offspring to have deficiencies due to a close bloodline.

Side: No, it is stupid.