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Some atheists are just obeying mum and dad
According to a video from one of brontoraptor's debate, children are trained to be atheists.
And even now, these children become adults in bodily appearance but not in wisdom.
Damien Marley in a song patience asks "are we growing wiser, or we just growing tall?"
That is a very interesting question.
So some fully grown ass men and women are still obeying mummy and daddy.(lol, ironical, just like jesus obeys his father till death).
Your Grandparents trained your parents, they trained you and i suppose you too are training your children in the same foolishness.
These three hated atheism:
Lord Kelvin , Isaac newton, Albert Eistein.
Who can go pass these three.
If through your stupid little ways, you maneuver it possible, then you have indirectly insulted your ancestors of science which is an insult to yourself, a current they follower.
That's hilarious. Nothing indoctrinates children better than religion. And talk about unwise. You continued someone else's anecdotal fallacy (your go to fallacy) then you follow it up with an appeal to authority fallacy. Why do you have a go to fallacy? That's not wise at all.
Oh, and your appeal to authority fallacy is extra weak. Einstein didn't like your belief system either, and Newton didn't finish one of the things he was working on because he thought God did it. Newton is an example of why a belief in God is a bad thing.
"Albert Einstein was quoted in The New York Times, Nov. 9, 1930, saying: “I assert that the cosmic religious experience is the strongest and noblest driving force behind scientific research.”
"Walter Isaacson quoted Einstein in the article “Einstein and Faith,” Time 169, April 5, 2007, 47): “The fanatical atheists … are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who – in their grudge against the traditional ‘opium of the people’ – cannot bear the ‘music of the spheres.'”
According to Prince Hubertus (Ronald W. Clark, “Einstein: The Life and Times,” New York: World Publishing Company, 1971, p. 425), Einstein said: “In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.”
You are a Christian though. Those quotes don't support Christianity.
Prompted by his colleague L. E. J. Brouwer Einstein read the philosopher Eric Gutkind's book Choose Life,[15] a discussion of the relationship between Jewish revelation and the modern world. On January 3, 1954 Einstein sent the following reply to Gutkind, "The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends…. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions."
When asked “You accept the historical existence of Jesus,” Einstein answered: “Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life.”
When asked “Have you read Emil Ludwig’s book on Jesus,” Einstein replied: “Emil Ludwig’s Jesus is shallow. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of Christianity with a bon mot! (witty remark)”
Though not believing in a personal God, The Saturday Evening Post, Oct. 26, 1929, published George Sylvester Viereck’s interview with Albert Einstein. When asked “To what extent are you influenced by Christianity,” Einstein answered: “As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene.”
"Science without religion is lame, and religion without science is blind"
"When the solution is simple, God is answering"
"The more i study science, the more i believe GOD"
So are we saying he was mentally imbalanced? No not me because...
"All religions, arts and science are branches of the same tree" Eistein.
I know it shouldn't, but apparently it does. You are arguing that anyone who believes in any kind of God believes the same thing as you. That would include the Greeks.
My debate has nothing to do with christianity. I just wanted to prove he was a believer. Not a christian believer but a believer in the existence of an all powerful deity, God.
He just didn't use the world's religions attributes or theories about God.
He believed God the designer didn't associate himself with the actions of his creations.
Like christians would say the loving God sent his son to ..........
He thinks God would just let his creations be(probably too big to engage in child's play) and live the life they want.
So, you shouldn't associate him with atheism or being an agnostic.
He made statements clearing indicating he hated atheism(but he probably didn't want to give it any attention).
It wasn't until you brought up what Einstein hated. You implied that anything he hated was the wrong thing to believe in.
. I just wanted to prove he was a believer.
But, he didn't believe what you believe. He wasn't a believer.
Not a christian believer but a believer in the existence of an all powerful deity, God.
The God he believes in wasn't all powerful.
He just didn't use the world's religions attributes or theories about God.
Which means you have as much in common with his beliefs as atheists do.
He believed God the designer didn't associate himself with the actions of his creations.
But, you do, so why did you bring him up?
Like christians would say the loving God sent his son to ..
You think God sending himself as His son to sacrifice himself to save people from their sinful actions is a God who didn't associate with the actions of His creations. Wow. You are massively deluded.
He thinks God would just let his creations be(probably too big to engage in child's play) and live the life they want
Which is something you don't believe.
So, you shouldn't associate him with atheism or being an agnostic.
He was agnostic about the God you believe in.
He made statements clearing indicating he hated atheism(but he probably didn't want to give it any attention).
He also made statements that indicated he hated the Abrahamic God.
He was an irreligious theist.
That's equally as far from religious theist ad it is from irreligious atheist.
You implied that anything he hated was the wrong thing to believe in.
You alone did that work.
But, he didn't believe what you believe
Not wholly. He loved jesus but didn't want to believe he said he is God.(still not christian)
The God he believes in wasn't all powerful.
Wrong.
Which means you have as much in common with his beliefs as atheists do.
Deliberately confusing yourself?
But, you do, so why did you bring him up?
Oh man again. It isn't about me or my religion.
You think God sending himself as His son to sacrifice himself to save people from their sinful actions is a God who didn't associate with the actions of His creations. Wow. You are massively deluded.
Rather meant to mean the opposite.
Did you forget your brain in the bathroom when you tried to wash it?
Which is something you don't believe.
I needn't say it again.
He was agnostic about the God you believe in.
He was a confused man. His parents fault(childhood)
He also made statements that indicated he hated the Abrahamic God.
Hate is a mean word. You're exaggerating it. Also, i already said that.
That's equally as far from religious theist ad it is from irreligious atheist.
How nice it is to tell yourself a sweet lie. Go on!
If you aren't implying that, then you are an idiot for bringing him up.
Wrong
Spinoza's God is not all powerful.
Deliberately confusing yourself?
If you disagree and don't give a reason why, then the only one confused is yourself.
Oh man again. It isn't about me or my religion.
It is about the beliefs that Einstein didn't agree with. He didn't agree with you or atheists.
Rather meant to mean the opposite.
Did you forget your brain in the bathroom when you tried to wash it?
It doesn't mean the opposite though. The God you believe in is very much associated with our actions.
He was a confused man. His parents fault(childhood)
If you think he was confused, why do you use him? The fact that you think you aren't confused and Einstein was further points to delusions on your part.
Hate is a mean word. You're exaggerating it. Also, i already said that.
If you aren't implying that, then you are an idiot for bringing him up.
hmmm
Spinoza's God is not all powerful.
If you read well about his God, he said it's nearness to that of spinoza's and lack of anyother more appropriate word of classification makes him simply put it as that of spinoza. Because he also said he wasn't a pantheist.
If you disagree and don't give a reason why, then the only one confused is yourself
no. I said no more not to compound your confusion.
He didn't agree with you or atheists.
Who am i?
t doesn't mean the opposite though. The God you believe in is very much associated with our actions.
So einstein didn't believe in this one, thats all am saying! I used jesus's example as what he didn't believe in.
Wow. Your teachers have suffered a great deal.
If you think he was confused, why do you use him? The fact that you think you aren't confused and Einstein was further points to delusions on your part.
You don't einstein to be perfect do you?
Every agnostic, atheist, deist,theist, skeptic, humanist, freethinker, moralist or pple being nihilistic are confused in oneway or the other.
Einstein's was just a little more severe and very apparent. He said he wasn't atheist, pantheist, judaist, christian etc. yet believed a God existed because there are no laws(science) without a law maker and therefore must exist but too big or mystical for the limited human mind to comprehend. So he made statements the more he studies science,the more he knows God.
(Which i have stated in one of my debates "science proves God" before finding out about einsteins thoughts even. Because i used to think he was atheist and didn't want to read anything on him). If einstein was alive today, i could help him find God.
If you read well about his God, he said it's nearness to that of spinoza's and lack of anyother more appropriate word of classification makes him simply put it as that of spinoza. Because he also said he wasn't a pantheist.
If you actually read you will find he didn't talk about an all peril God.
no. I said no more not to compound your confusion.
You think that not communicating helps with reducing confusion. That just means you are terrible at communicating.
Who am i?
Nobody. You can't even be considered a debater.
So einstein didn't believe in this one, thats all am saying!
That's what I was saying.
I used jesus's example as what he didn't believe in.
Again, why are you bringing up the things he didn't believe in that you do believe?
Wow. Your teachers have suffered a great deal.
My teachers didn't say the opposite of what the meant when they taught me, that's why I can easily pick apart your bullshit.
You don't einstein to be perfect do you?
Wait, now you are attacking the authority you picked for your appeal to authority fallacy. Wow. You are even bad at being bad at arguing.
Every agnostic, atheist, deist,theist, skeptic, humanist, freethinker, moralist or pple being nihilistic are confused in oneway or the other.
But, nowhere near as confused as you.
He said he wasn't atheist, pantheist, judaist, christian etc. yet believed a God existed because there are no laws(science) without a law maker and therefore must exist but too big or mystical for the limited human mind to comprehend. So he made statements the more he studies science,the more he knows God.
Which part of that is severe and apparent confusion?
If einstein was alive today, i could help him find God.
You can't even help yourself make a fallacy, how are you going to help anyone find God?
The religion of Atheism, yes, yes, you nailed it Cartman. The indoctrination that there is no God, with or without proof. And it most certainly is the religion of peace, ask Stalin's parents.
To claim that a lack of religion based on evidence, reasoning and science is in itself a religion is absurd. atheists don't rely on faith to tell us about a magic man in the sky. We rely on our own brains.
You rely on your own brains, yet either believe that a magical nothing manifested reality or that there is something in reality that never began, which borders on....... theism....
Not really. To be offered eternal life vs death and choose death is in no way logical, that is unless you just want to die. Do you just "want to die"? If you do, atheism is your obvious choice.
atheists don't rely on faith to tell us about a magic man in the sky.
Perhaps. The Sims don't have to believe in their programmer, and they can even claim that he's "magic", but he's still there.
Nope. You rely on faith to believe a magical nothing manifested reality from its magical nothingness. That's brainwashing at the highest level. Do you believe Harry Potter is real as well?
That's hilarious. Nothing indoctrinates children better than religion.
If Atheism cannot indoctrinate children as well as religion that's because even a child can see that it makes no sense, thus it is hard to indoctrinate any child with a brain. What a horrible argument...
You have not made a single statement in this website that demonstrates any sort of critical thinking. Why don't you show is your critical thinking skills instead of just showing is the conclusions your critical thinking skills have brought you over the years? Don't you think it would be beneficial to show the reasoning that used the critical thinking instead of just telling people what you learned?
Not gonna happen. You have no desire to have serious debate. You are a drive by poster who makes no points. You will get only the same in return from me. In 17,000 posts, you only created 40 debates. You aren't a debater. You are a clown on a debate site doing what clowns do best... be clowns.
Interesting. Let's examine which one of us really has no desire to debate. You are proud of not showing your critical thinking skills. I on the other hand constantly ask you for your thoughts on the subject in order to have a conversation. Just like with all aspects of your life you have things backwards.
No. You like insults and drive by posts. You aren't a debater. You don't even know how to put together an argument. I've given you exactly what you've given me, which is jack shit. You don't want to debate, so I won't debate you. That's how that works. You dial out, I dial out. You go to the insult academy, you get insults. It's like fucking magic.
You aren't going to be able to convince me by repeating the same lies especially when you don't address my objections to the first time you told the lies.
I don't want to convince you. I just want to piss you off because you don't want to debate. That's my whole mission with you, to emulate you and be a complete dipshit. You don't want intellectual discussion, thus I'll give you the same bullshit you dish out.
I was born into a Christian family, went to church every Sunday for almost 15 years and then I realized "This shit makes absolutely no sense.". After the sudden realization that god was about as viable as Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny I strayed from my parents' religion. My entire family still goes to church and always ask me to go too, to which I decline.
This claim that parents teach kids to be atheists could be flipped both ways, however it's more than likely a parent makes their kid religious than irreligious.
This claim that parents teach kids to be atheists could be flipped both ways, however it's more than likely a parent makes their kid religious than irreligious.
1)I'd ask for this citation, but I know it doesn't exist.
2)Claiming the majority does something more often is a horrible argument.