yeah i see what you mean, but i think toni meant in a less unethical sense. Like i realize people will ridicule those who have the guts to say something, but the hostility is not neccesary, especially when they don't even know the person well enough, cuz they don't know what their life is like. they don't know why they believe in what they do...i think there should be more respectful ways of agreeing or disagreeing with other people. you know, be more civilized ?

But why ridicule xaeon? Must one be faced with being personally ridiculed, which is non-productive, instead of simply disagreeing with that person? Disagreeing in a good way opens the door to more dialog while ridicule slams the door SHUT and creates a hostile situation.

And the first ammendment gives us legal protection for ridiculing you too. (;

excuse me ? don't you DARE be calling my cousin obnoxious ! she can be loud if she wants to and voice her opinion if she wants to and whether or not you listen, she WILL be heard by somebody. And you know what ? she is one of the most selfless people i know so don't you DARE say that her opinions would EVER be "nonsensical or very biased towards her own personal benefits" because she is one of the last people she would ever think about. Being a woman or having an "important voice" has nothing to do with whether or not she is worth listening to. People will ignore. no shit, no big deal. It's not her fault that she actually gives a shit but at least she does ! don't you fucking DARE act like she's some self centered egotistical loud mouth because she's NOT and never will be. I can't believe you even have the NERVE to say something like that about her !

Hi crossmyHEART! I cannot believe you went OFF on altarion the way you did but I understand and temper my own reaction because you were trying to stick up for your cousin, Toni. It was, however, more than a bit over the top. But here's the thing...you think altarion insulted Toni by what he said and then you turned on a dime and insulted Jesus, someone you don't know at all, by saying this; "good job ! i didn't think you had it in you to make a smart remark, based on what other people have told me." The way you phrased that left a lot to be desired. I wasn't going to say anything since the four of us are allies but I felt I should on his behalf.