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Gov't Right No Legal Right
Debate Score:9
Arguments:5
Total Votes:13
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Spreading the Wealth?

Democracy VS Socialism

Obama's plan to "spread the wealth around" goes against everything the American Dream stands for. Regardless of how much you make, isn't it supposed to be that everyone pays the same Taxes? What right does Obama have to turn a Democracy into a Socialist Nation? Isn't this alone enough reason to NOT vote for Obama?

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Obama Socialism

Gov't Right

Side Score: 3
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No Legal Right

Side Score: 6
2 points

In "The Wealth of Nations," one of the seminal books on capitalism, Adam Smith wrote:

"The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. . . . The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. . . . It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

In other words, Adam Smith advocated the same progressive tax that Obama is pushing for.

Supporting Evidence: Overtaxed (www.newyorker.com)
Side: Gov't Right
1 point

See my debate on how you would otherwise provide social programs, if not for taxes.

Supporting Evidence: How much $$ would you give if there were no social program taxes? (www.createdebate.com)
Side: What is the alternative
3 points

It's true that Obama's answer is more socialistic, like the video stated. However, such a system of taxation is already in place in the US; Obama just wants to tweak the tax levels a bit from what they are right now.

And the video's claims to the Obamas and Bidens donating very little make a lot of sense when you consider how much money they actually have. Obama's net worth is $800,000 (net worth = all your assets (e.g. house) - all your liabilities (e.g. mortgages)). And Biden currently is the poorest Senator in Congress. Compare that to McCain's net worth of $42 million (not including his wife's $100 million inheritance) and Palin's $1-million-plus net worth. I'm not saying wealth is bad; I'm just saying that the amount Obama and Biden donate to charity makes sense considering how much money they actually have. Here's an article detailing the figures.

Side: No Legal Right
2 points

I always felt that the government has VERY LITTLE right to progressively tax. i feel that in order to strengthen our military and advance our technology, a progressive taxing system is necessary, but with all the useless government spending it has made, it's because irresponsible and tyrannical. both parties are responsible for this because they have so many ideological views on how money should be spent. Although, i wouldn't want the Libertarians taking over... cause government spending (especially on security) is very necessary.

spreading the wealth though, very against. i don't think someone's hard earn money should be spent on other people. yes, we shouldn't let people starve to death if they have jobs, but we shouldn't also be redistributing wealth like Obama wants to do.

Side: No Legal Right
-2 points