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Stalin Was A Right Wing Dictator

Is Stalinism left-wing or right-wing?

The question is ambiguous as all societies & political systems are a mix of agendas. Basically, we need to examine the political agenda, economic agenda and social agenda.

Stalin’s ultimate objective was to convert a mainly agrarian society, to a urban & industrial society, with possibly the long term aim (after numerous generations) of gravitating towards a socialised economy.

Stalin’s major constraint was money supply for foreign exchange to acquire the physical machinery for means of production.

Capitalists (those controlling money supply) in Western Europe & the USA were typically mercenary and exploitative. Another issue that restrained Stalin’s objective was the fact that foreign governments in the West, had the counter objective of “Economic Imperialism” (Economic Colonisation) through the provision of enduring debt. Thus Stalin’s nationalism comes into play, and all nationalistic objectives are considered of the extreme right in politics & society.

Whereas Trump has the slogan “Lets make the USA great again”, Stalin had the objective of “Lets make Russia equivalent to all the great world powers”. The bit Trump & Stalin left out is to meet their objectives required the economic exploitation of the masses. Same extremist right-wing, anti-Christian (see Acts 4:32–35) rhetoric.

Imo, like Fascism, politically Stalinism is an extremist right wing movement advocating central control (dictatorship), something like the USA under Trump seems to want to emulate.

Lugenpresse

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But Mein Narrative

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I will "lunge" in here and state that right wingers are not all bad. For instance, Ike was a "right wing" President, actually elected by BOTH wings. Obama was more right than left, and was, again, elected by BOTH. He was also black AND white. Neither was nationalist, and that separated them both from the liar-in-chief who is an extremist, and extremists on either side are not worthy of the USA. We NEED both right and left wingers, but, we seem to have an abundance of radicals and not enough "fine people on both sides", today. If radicals weigh more, the scales are tilted sharply to the right, and THAT'S a problem.

Side: Lugenpresse

Stalin Was A Right Wing Dictator

You've already praised Stalin and defended Stalinism

Too late Nom. You already praised the stupid bastard.

Side: Lugenpresse

Stalin Was A Right Wing Dictator

You've already praised Stalin and defended Stalinism

Too late Nom. You already praised the stupid bastard and have no way to connect him to Conservatvism.

We CAN connect Hitler to Leftistism. He spoke it constantly with his mouth.

Side: Lugenpresse
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Stalin’s major constraint was money supply for foreign exchange to acquire the physical machinery for means of production.

Physical machinery is built before it is ever acquired. Stalin’s Russia had an abundance of natural resources in. More than enough to build the means of production. The people had their labor and their Communism, so what need had they for money or other people’s capital?

Side: But Mein Narrative
Hootie(364) Disputed
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Physical machinery is built before it is ever acquired.

Just wtf are you blathering about you intellectually redundant imbecile? Plenty of countries import machinery including your own.

Stalin’s Russia had an abundance of natural resources in.

In what? It helps if you don't end your sentences with prepositions.

The people had their labor and their Communism, so what need had they for money or other people’s capital?

So you agree that he was a right winger?

That's awesome. Thanks.

Side: Lugenpresse
Cocopops(347) Disputed
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-an abundance of resources in.

''A sentence ending in a preposition is something up with I will not put''.

Side: Lugenpresse
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Stop making excuses you homosexual butt plug. Stalin was a communist marxist and he was also another fascist person who you agree with about everything.

Side: But Mein Narrative
Hootie(364) Disputed
1 point

Stop making excuses you homosexual butt plug.

Butt plugs have no sexuality you laughably stupid neo-Nazi jerk-off marathon. They are plastic toys.

Stalin was a communist marxist

Absolutely false. He was a right wing nationalist dictator who conned the Russians into thinking he was communist, pretty much like Hitler did with the Germans. See:-

Why Stalin was a right-winger

http://www.mcspotlight.org/cgi-bin/zv/debate/anything/messages/5311.html

Ok, so by this definition, Stalin was certainly not left-wing, since he exterminated and enslaved minorities, which you appear to agree is not supportive of social equality.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8188634

Side: Lugenpresse
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Butt plugs have no sexuality you laughably stupid neo-Nazi jerk-off marathon. They are plastic toys.

How would you know Nom?

Side: But Mein Narrative