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Which police defended the actions of Floyd's killing?

Systemic racism is the catch-all word for people who need racism and can't find it.

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When there's no evidence to support your position, just pretend that the evidence is everywhere but invisible, and carry on with your position.

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Well, for a start the accused officer's three colleagues who looked on passively as the black suspect was being slowly asphyxiated.

The vast majority of police officers will be non-racist everyday guys just doing their job as best as they can.

As the politicians have failed totally to resolve the black question and are unlikely to do so the approach must be to treat the problem and not the symptoms.

All the anti-racist laws in world will not change the people's attitudes which will have been formed from observation and experience.

The unpleasant, but nevertheless undeniable truth is that blacks have a predisposition to violent crime, a congenital aversion to formal education along with a lack of executive ability to organise effective administrations and efficient business management.

They of course blame the white man for their own shortcomings and use this feigned belief to justify their idleness and disproportionate criminality.

Until someone of influence stands up and states these self-evident truths the riots, looting and violent crime will continue with increased ferocity and frequency.

The greater onus to help resolve the black problem is on the blacks themselves and they must be made to recognize the facts.

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excon(18261) Disputed
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The unpleasant, but nevertheless undeniable truth is that blacks have a predisposition to violent crime, a congenital aversion to formal education along with a lack of executive ability to organise effective administrations and effecticient business management.

Hello M:

That WOULD be the natural conclusion, if you forgot 100's of years of slavery. If you pretend that forced segregation wasn't the law of the land 50 years ago. If you deny that Jim Crow laws exist today... Then, I can see why you'd hold the racist views you hold..

But, I don't pretend.. I don't deny, and I don't forget..

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Miocene(707) Clarified
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There is no denying that everything you have stated is factually correct.

However, if we go outside the box to scan the problem we must recognize other truths.

1)We are where we are and must acknowledge that it's time to move on.

2)Black violent crime is rife in most countries where they live.

For instance, under protests and warnings of violence from the likes of the well known British politician, Enoch Powell of, ''Rivers of Blood'' fame, in the 1960s, blacks were allowed to settle in the U.K., and made welcome with the provision of free housing, free medical care and a range of other social benefits.

On the last statistical figures published before the P.C., Brigade had their publication hushed up) blacks represented 10% of the population of London yet were responsible for 90% (ninety per cent) of all violent crime, especially fatal knife crime by the black drug gangs.

None of these crimes has anything to do with slavery.

These stats are mirrored throughout the U.K., except in Northern Ireland where their presence was reduced by the paramilitaries to insignificant numbers.

Other questions are then brought into the equation.

Why do blacks want to mingle with whites whom they apparently despise?

Segregation works two ways.

Could, or would a white man go out for a social evening with his wife in deepest Harlem/The Bronx in safety?

Why cannot whites and other ethnic groups, such as Asians, live harmoniously together in black free districts and blacks live in their own black only zones where they could prosper and live in peaceful accord without the interference of racist white policing procedures?

Once again this tragic episode has confirmed that ONLY PAINTERS CAN MIX BLACK AND WHITE SUCCESSFULLY

Until Americans wake up to this self-evident truth the violence, racial hatred and civil unrest will continue for the foreseeable future.

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Amarel(5669) Clarified
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Well, for a start the accused officer's three colleagues who looked on passively as the black suspect was being slowly asphyxiated.

You can't assume that those involved would attempt to defend their actions. Also, Floyd didn't die from asphyxiation.

As the politicians have failed totally to resolve the black question and are unlikely to do so

What's the black question?

The unpleasant, but nevertheless undeniable truth is that blacks have a predisposition to violent crime, a congenital aversion to formal education along with a lack of executive ability to organise effective administrations and efficient business management.

That's baseless. First, you cannot look at a person's skin and ascertain any of the qualities you allege about black people more broadly. Second, crime rates are higher in the black community, but those crimes are committed by the minority within that population. When you see a black man, it is highly unlikely that they have ever murdered anyone, despite murder rates being disproportionately high in that demographic. Third, your other race based suppositions typically apply to white people who are raised in the conditions that are more prevalent in black communities, which tells you it's not inherent to pigmentation.

They of course blame the white man for their own shortcomings and use this feigned belief to justify their idleness and disproportionate criminality.

They? You mean white college professors, white media pundits, white social workers, and white HR managers? There are a whole host of experts of various races who seek to explain circumstances on white racism.

The greater onus to help resolve the black problem is on the blacks themselves and they must be made to recognize the facts.

I don't know what you believe the "black problem" is, people are always better off when they seize responsibility for their own circumstances in order to change them.

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The 3 other officers who did nothing to stop it.

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Amarel(5669) Disputed
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It can't be assumed that the people involved thought they were right and would defend their actions.

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JustIgnoreMe(4290) Clarified
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There's a bit of an ambiguity with language happening.

for example: I pay taxes which end up going to policies that I am against - so it could be said that I supported policies that I don't support.

Not stopping the restraint and protecting it from onlookers, even if they felt it was wrong, still furthered its continuance.

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