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Debate Score:45
Arguments:27
Total Votes:50
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THBT it is unethical to eat meat.

Why is it unethical to eat meat? Why is it that the consumption of meat unethical? This requires both sides to actively argue and PROVE their stand :D

YES

Side Score: 8
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NO

Side Score: 37

Where do you get meat from? Animals. The poor little ducks, chickens, pigs, fish, cows and all sorts of animals now play another role in satisfying your hunger. That is immoral, because basically life is precious.

Side: Sanctity of Life
TheHallow1(78) Disputed
3 points

"That is immoral"

Yeah, to YOU.

"because basically life is precious."

Says who? If it was so precious, then it wouldn't be so common.

Side: No
Irreversible(16) Disputed
1 point

Since to you, life is common, and it isn't going to be considered as precious. But I hereby ask you: If you die, will you spring back to life? No, definitely. Similarly animals have only one life, it is therefore important that life is upheld as sacred.

And if you still think life isn't precious, you might as well die now - since life isn't worth it in your opinion.

Side: yes
ricedaragh(2494) Disputed
2 points

That is immoral, because basically life is precious.

What would you have people eat. If life is precious then eating plants is Immoral, for plants are alive. The thing is, most hard-nosed vegetarians that think that life is too precious to be killed for consumption by another life, don't think about the fact that in nature most life consumes other life in order to gain sustenance. Unless you are a chemoautotroph or a photoautotroph then its other life forms that contain the vital elements and nutrients that you need to survive.

Have you ever stopped to think about what would happen if in the morning the world stopped eating meat. Where would all the animals go? Certainly not into the wild being that domesticated animals are unable to live in the wild because of years upon years of artificial selection. Domesticated animals are not equipped with the tools to survive on their own, would you rather the mass extinction of thousands of species containing billions of individual animals, animals who live a far more humane and easy life than their wild cousins.

Side: No
Warlin(1212) Disputed
2 points

Go bitch at tigers and lions or something. We're animals; why is it so horrible to act like them?

Side: No
Conro(767) Disputed
1 point

"That is immoral, because basically life is precious."

So then you don't support vegetarianism either, right? Because last time I checked, plants are also alive.

Side: No
protazoa(427) Disputed
0 points

I entirely agree with the fact that meat comes from animals.

it is called a food chain.

although, really, the food chain is circular.

the poor little plants get eaten by the poor little insects

that get eaten by the poor little fishies

that get eaten by the poor little ducks

that get eaten by the big mean humans

that get eaten by the poor little decomposing bacteria

that get absorbed by the poor little plants in the soil

so really, humans play a role in satisfying the ducks, chickens, pigs, fish, cows, and all sorts of animals (not only through animal husbandry, but through the aforementioned cycle)

Side: No

And I must say that though plants are alive, they can't think! But animals can! They have feelings: they fear being slaughtered - c'mon!

Side: yes
TheHallow1(78) Disputed
1 point

"But animals can"

Not as we do.

"They have feelings"

Physical, not emotional.

"they fear being slaughtered"

That usually stops right after the first bullet.

Side: No
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

And I must say that though plants are alive, they can't think! But animals can! They have feelings: they fear being slaughtered - c'mon!

Plants have feelings.

Side: No
Irreversible(16) Disputed
2 points

So you are saying that your roses would feel hurt if you cut it and give it to your loved ones? Are you saying that your vegetables would cry if you ate them? HEY, WAKE UP. THIS IS WHAT'S IN YOUR IMAGINARY WORLD.

Side: yes
4 points

It isn't "unethical" to eat meat. Killing other creatures and consuming the tasty parts happens in nature and is perfectly.....natural (obviously). The strong animal kills the weaker one and eats it. That's the natural order and humans are no exception. We just do it in a way that's a little more...."humane". Think of it this way: Not eating meat is a choice. Eating meat is an instinct.

Side: No

If eating meat was an instinct, you would have eaten up your classmates and colleagues.

Side: yes
TheHallow1(78) Disputed
3 points

"you would have eaten up your classmates and colleagues."

What are you stupid? Cannibalism isn't instinctive among humans.

Side: No
zombee(1026) Disputed
3 points

Normal predation and cannibalism are different. Many species of animals subsist purely on meat, and it is in their instinct to hunt and consume it, however cannibalism is not the norm among them.

Side: NO
2 points

I up voted your down vote on the otherside, though I disagree. It's not worthy of a down vote I think.

While I understand the theory of all life being precious, there are a couple factors:

1. Even if one judges how ethical an act is based on some thing's level of self-awareness, they would have to agree even the dumbest human has a far greater right to life than an animal. We need meat, or at least the protein most readily available in meat, to live. We in Westernized countries have the luxury of choosing to be vegetarian for whatever reason, but there are millions around the world who do not have that choice, and who would starve without meat.

Maybe you can argue, given the choice not eating meat is more ethical. You cannot argue though, that all of humanity should give up meat and hold a moral high-ground considering the number of humans who would die as a result.

2. As already stated here, animals eat eachother. We are an animal.

Side: No
2 points

Meat is delicious. If we weren't intended to eat meant it wouldn't taste so good.

Side: No
1 point

Also, if we werent intended to eat meat we would not have incisors.

Side: No
2 points

Isn't the burden of proof upon the side making the controversial claim, anyway? Doesn't it fall on vegans to prove that meat is an unethical food source?

Side: No
1 point

It's cruel and arguably unethical, but we should eat meat anyway.

We're nowhere near the technological level where we can survive and live comfortably without constantly killing other living beings (whether animals or plants or microscopic organisms). It's either we keep killing, or we commit mass suicide. And even the mass suicide of humanity wouldn't solve the problem because non-human living creatures will keep killing each other for food! :P

Singling out animals to be saved, while eating other living beings like plants, seems a bit nonsensical to me. Either you kill for food or you don't; if you're going to kill, why not give yourself a varied and healthy diet by adding in some meat?

What we can do is take reasonable steps to minimise the suffering of the living beings that we kill, and not kill living beings unless we have a good reason to. (Legal forms of deliberate animal cruelty for entertainment are repulsive to me, like hunting.)

Side: No
0 points

The only reason anybody eats meat is because it tastes good. Not for survival for an individual or a nation, not for its nutrients which can be acquired from many other sources, not for any reason apart from my own selfishness. I am a spoilt cunt and I do what I like not what it's right to do. I want to eat meat, not need to. So fuck all you tissue munchers, because you can't ever win this argument.

Side: No
1 point

Why you downvote me you fucking blowjob.

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Side: No
Irreversible(16) Disputed
1 point

damn what's with your profanity. it is not really appropriate to use such uncivilized language

Side: yes