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Talk: DanaForYeshua and Chuz-Life
Guys we have witness you two nearly hating each other everytime you come into contact. Do you guys ever talk about other things than abortion? I mean if you are pro-life or pro-choice thats fine. That shouldn't stop you to from having a bad time here. I feel like Chuz is being pressed into the dirt because he is passionate about the life of a fetus and Dana is holding a firm belief that woman need this right for multiple reasons. Both of you seem to value life. Both of you seem to value rights for all. Is there anyway DanaForYeshua and Chuz-Life could ever get along? I mean I feel so bad for Chuz because it seems like a lot of people hate him or something. I don't want him to feel that way.
Well I think people are just mean sometimes. Ya know? Like they call him a troll for no reason and he is treated like shit so yeah something needs to happen.
All I see you chuz getting down voted and made fun of because of his passion. I feel like he isnt being treated fairly. Dana has the most conflict with him.
I totally agree with you too. I feel so bad for the guy because he gets down voted because of his beliefs. Sometimes he even has a good solid argument.
I have done nothing wrong. She is a backstabber. She is not the innocent little thing that she pretends to be. She will smile in your face and as soon as your turn around, there is a knife in your back. KMA.
Wow. And you are the one to talk. She has done nothing wrong. Prove your self then. If not shut the hell up. Because she is the sweetest thing on earth. You are the one who got snappy with her because you thought she was picking a fucking side when all she does is try to bring care to someone who is being falsly acused but your dumb ass would not pay any attention to her so shut the fuck up. Azra ignore this ignorant piece of shit she doesnt even have the values to claim respect.
So now I have to be associated with her too? Oh great. Give me a break. I hate both of them. At least say me and Azra or something at least that would make more sense. Let me guess you assume I am not a real person. Do I have to post an actual picture of myself standing with Azra to prove you guys wrong or something or how does this work?
Leave me alone. I have proven myself. I have done nothing wrong. I do not falsely accuse anyone. I am the victim of slander. Chuz falsely accused me of supporting child molestation. Leave me alone. I do not have the time for your shit or theirs.
Havent you called him names or something though? Do me and Azra have you confused or something? We are basing this off of Lizzie's arguments so is she wrong?
That was made by Dana and I picked a side to support, obviously my side, but that's debating. I have no personal issues with Chuz and I'd like to see everyone be more civil to not just him, but to everyone.
As I stated before I dont take sides but misinterpretation of ones beliefs and choices is questionable in this situation. I feel bad for him because he is always downvoted and mocked. That isnt a nice thing to do. I just want him to enjoy this site for the sake of debating and increasing his rebuttal and argumentation skills. Thats it. I have not chosen a side.
Babe, I am working on not banning people unless I need to. I did ban Prodigee for saying that my father should rape me. One of my enemies is still posting on one of my debates.
This is the one that sparked it. He gives you an answer to your debate, you ban him. I tell you that it was unjust that you did so, you ban me. Jesus christ if you don't like people with different opinions to you, why join a debating site? And I don't know why you called me babe, maybe an attempt at lulling me in to some fake motherly like comfort, but patronisation doesn't work on me. ( Yes I made up the word patronisation.)
You did not need to ban me then, nor did you need to ban me/countless of other people from your debates on other occasions. I can't stand it, honestly. Ban people if they're harassing you, yes. But otherwise, stop being so uptight.
Actually I look and the were either references, definitions, actual arguments, and some that made zero sense. The funny thing is that others did the exact same thing so what is the point of calling him a spammer or troll if he is simply doing what others are doing? I call literally list the names of people that posted "non topic arguments". People do ot all the time such as Me, you, Dana, Hellno, etc. Almost everybody did what he did but you guys simply hate him because everybody else does and since he is outcasted you guys called him a troll. I dont see how he has trolled. If so please post an actual quote and tell me if you, me, Dana or someone else hasnt done the same thing.
You are a backstabbing bitch. I hate you more than I have ever hated anyone. You case has not been proven. I do not say the same fucking thing over and over again. I see right through you Little Miss Innocent act. Get the Hell off of my friends list if you are going to talk shit about me.
Okay. If I show you and link all the times you have said the same thing then what? Because I never did anything against you. I wish this was an act because I have tried to toughen up but I cant. I cannot hate you nor will I. I will not dislike you nor will I think about it. It isnt worth it because truly I stated something I have proof for and I never did anything against you.
You are so fake. Do not even bother trying to be my friend. You took Chuz's side when he slandered me and falsely accused me of supporting child molestation and you stabbed me in the back saying horrible things about me. I am done with your fake ass. I did not go around talking shit about you, but I will now.
I will not argue with you but you seriously post my body my right my choice on any topic that involves rights. Healthcare debates and Abortion debates.
Their whole deal is that they are butthurt because I can support my claims with factual references and they can't.
They aren't so much mad at me... I think it's clear that they actually have some hatred for themselves and they (Issy and Curoac) are projecting their hate for themselves onto others.
They do this to divert attention away from themselves so they don't have to consider the fact that they might be wrong on the issues and the fact that they are even wrong about themselves.
I understand. And as for the random down votes you just recieved for no apparent reason I am sorry. I have no clue who does them but they continue to do so.
I'm not here for the numbers, percentages or anything like that.
I noticed that the debates here were pretty much dominated by the pro-aborts.... so I jumped into the fray.
I'm used to the heat and I don't care if I'm the only one fighting for the rights of children in the womb. It's better than no-one fighting for them at all.
Why do you keep saying "Pro-abortion"? There's no such group. Its called pro-choice. Just because you have an animocity towards a certain freedom doesnt mean you can unjustly label it out of anger.
But abortion is already legal. Pro choice is fighting to maintain that and keep it an option for those who want it. Pro choice people may not even like abortion but respect a woman's right to choose for her self and not be told what to do.
Also, people fighting for drug legalization are only focused on getting that drug legal because it isn't now.
People fighting gun laws are solely focused on abolishing the gun laws and that's it.
And people who lobby for gay marriage rights are solely focused on the gays getting marriage rights.
Pro choice on the other hand is different than these. It is for one fighting to maintain something that already exists.
And it also is not solely focused on the abortion abortion abortion. Every thing you listed above is named for its sole purpose. Pro choice is the same. The focus of pro choice is not on abortion, it's on CHOICE of which abortion is a part of.
Pro abortion people would be focused solely on either maintaining abortion or promoting it 100% with NO choice to keep the baby.
This is absurd and nothing like what pro choice is about. Pro choice. Focused on choice. Pro abortion, a nonexistent figment of your deluded mind. Two different things
Pro choice is fighting to maintain that and keep it an option for those who want it. Pro choice people may not even like abortion but respect a woman's right to choose for her self and not be told what to do.
When one side takes an anti-abortion stance, their opponents are rightfully called pro-abortion whether they like the label or not. The dictionaries have it right.
But you're not anti-abortion, your pro-life and by extension, anti-choice. You want to remove the ability to choose abortion or life. We want to maintain that choice. Simple. All you're trying to do here is make the pro choice side seem evil. I may hate the fuck out of abortion just like you. As many do. I may think its evil, wrong, ect. But I am pro choice? Why? Because I RESPECT a woman's right to choose whatever they want. Because my opinion doesn't matter when it comes to another persons life and decisions. In this case I am not pro abortion. I hate it, but I am pro choice. Your argument is flawed in that you make the assumption that all pro choice people LIKE abortion. That's actually really not the case alot of the time.
Also how did your argument come from a dictionary? You didn't define any words, just flipped the names so they oppose.
Nope changed my mind. One of them's a pretentious imbecile who refuses to listen to logic, and the other (in my opinion, based on what *she did to me) is an annoying lying mistrustful bitch who does everything she can to piss me off. Chuz won't shut up about his fucking abortion opinions and Ismaila ( aka DanaForYeshua) likes to ban people for no reason what so ever. She comes up with some bullcrap about " you didn't do what the debate title says, banned." When the person I was defending gave a well presented argument. She banned him because apparently he banned her on another debate. Childish much?? I don't like either of them, and I damned well hope they don't like me. I could say more things to piss them off, but I won't.
I snapped, I've had enough of them, I tolerated them for a short while, still disliking them openly, but never really complaining. Fuck that, unappreciative imbeciles.
Yar, I feel that people who want to get an abortion with no medical reason are very selfish, but this is "my opinion". So quit being so damn stern in your opinion! I feel very strong about abortions and I feel that you are wrong, you feel like your right and everyone who disagrees is wrong! So do I, but I don't hate people for it! Most of the time at least....
But that directly contradicts equal treatment. You can't put yourself first if you also claim that everyone is equal no matter what. This is part of the danger of always believing in absolute equality (I strive for near equality instead since, well, let's face it: humans are stupid and imperfect and can only create flawed systems. Even if it's a tiny flaw).
Also, I think I've stated my objective views on the abstract concept of a 'right'.
I don't care. Ima do what is right for me and if you do not like it, to fucking bad. I cannot love my neighbor as myself per Yeshua's command if I do not love myself first.
Your using scripture on me??? You??? HAHAHAHA!!!! WohooHAHA!! oh my... HA!! Yarharharhar!!!!! You.. you... are halarious!!! Good one! Well played! Oh, I don't hate liberals I dislike liberals who act like YOU. It's really weird, like a reverse role sort of thing. You act VERY selfrightous in my opinion, I am not rightous at all really.
Honestly despite the excessive question marks and whatnot, you do have a point. A point that Dana fails to see, of course. Or maybe she does and she's like me in that she doesn't really give a fuck.
I never said I was, I was laughing at how someone like you used the bible. Your the bigot in this argument! Sure, I can be a little bit of a bigot, but I prefer the term asshole or even beter Jacob. Your so self rightous about woman's choice, that you forget about the child. Chuz disagreed with you and you hated im' for it. You hate im' for thinking differently then you, BIGOT.
