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 Tell me how questioning a person's origin of birth is a racial attack. (49)

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Tell me how questioning a person's origin of birth is a racial attack.

I think if the GOP candidate for President questioned Obama's favorite basketball team, the race baters in the Democrat party would call him a racist.

Questioning a person's origin of birth has nothing to do with being a racist!

Can you people be any more pathetic? Hillary is losing this election because you are such pathetic race baters and Americans are seeing riots in the streets once more because of it.

How traitorous is it to create dissention between Americans purely to garner Black votes? We now have an entire women's basketball teams refusing to stand for the national anthem and their coach supported it!
IT'S SICKENING!

This PC extremist Democrat party has become like those who will not stand for the national anthem. They seemingly hate America with all the dissention they create between Blacks, women, Muslims, LGBT people, etc. etc.
It seems their goal is to tear America apart so they can take more control of the people.

For Democrats, it is divide and conqueor to win elections. They don't care how many cops die, how many cities are turned into war zones, as long as they win the election.

Those who will STILL vote for Hillary are the very people I am speaking to. They either want tax payers to support them, or they are closet socialist ideologs.
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Yeah, saying that our fist African American president is a Kenyan Muslim can't possibly have anything to do with race. Posting pictures of him in "traditional African garb" can't possibly have anything to do with race.

Ignorant little fuck.

3 points

He grew up in a Muslim household, in a Muslim country and has said the most beautiful sound in the world is the Islamic call to prayer in the morning; there are many videos covering this, just go to youtube. The African garb pic was posted by Hillary n Team. And last, but not least, Obama's bio for the Harvard law review states he was Kenyan born. It was Obama, himself, who sowed the seeds of the birther movement and Hillary who brought it to the public. You can Google and youtube all of this.

Furthermore, it has nothing to do with race, racebaiter.

6 points

He grew up in a Muslim household,

I grew up in a Catholic household, it didn't make me Catholic.

in a Muslim country

I grew up in a Christian country, it didn't make me Christian.

and has said the most beautiful sound in the world is the Islamic call to prayer in the morning

He actually said it is "one of the prettiest". Additionally, the most beautiful building I have ever seen was a Catholic Cathedral. Doesn't make me Catholic.

The African garb pic was posted by Hillary n Team.

Ha, you are so obsessed with deflection that you didn't even bother to think this through. It doesn't matter if it was from "Hillary n Team" (who apparently ran the Tea Party now?) or not, it is still a racial attack.

And last, but not least, Obama's bio for the Harvard law review states he was Kenyan born.

And the editor of it already claimed responsibility for that error. Oh, did Breitbart not mention that part?

It was Obama, himself, who sowed the seeds of the birther movement and Hillary who brought it to the public.

Repeating that ad nauseum doesn't make it true. Not only was Obama not responsible for that last part that you are attributing to the beginning of the movement, but, as has been demonstrated time and time again, Hillary's Campaign had nothing to do with the origins of the birther movement. Someone who was friends with her (but not a member of her campaign) suggested using it as an attack, but Hillary's Campaign (and this is already documented) rejected it, only for it to be taken up by the right (largely Trump) and perpetuated. This "but they started it mom" excuse is juvenile and pathetic.

Furthermore, it has nothing to do with race, racebaiter.

Again, repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.

2 points

Well firstly he isn't the ''fist' African American President.

The ''first'' African President, yes, but not the fist one.

The well publicized Irish roots of president John F. Kennedy and his Roman Catholic faith was never interpreted as racism or any other ''ism'' by anyone.

Only the acrimonious Bongos can find insult in such innocent statements.

Should Obama be ashamed of his Kenyan background and strong Muslim associations?

If so, why?

If not, what's the problem?

DON'T FORGET;- FIRST, NOT FIST, AND SPARTACUS, NOT SPARTICUS.

Do try to keep up old bean.

3 points

Oh you're so clever, you caught a typo. I wish I was as clever as you. Can you teach me how to be that clever? Do I have to memorize Mein Kampf first?

The well publicized Irish roots of president John F. Kennedy and his Roman Catholic faith was never interpreted as racism or any other ''ism'' by anyone.

Attacks on his Roman Catholic faith didn't actually have anything to do with his race, so why would it be interpreted as racism?

Only the acrimonious Bongos can find insult in such innocent statements.

Ha, I always love when white supremacists try to tell people what is or is not racist.

Should Obama be ashamed of his Kenyan background and strong Muslim associations?

Who says he is, exactly?

If so, why?

If not, what's the problem?

The problem is when ignorant fucks tried to use it to attack him by playing on racial fears.

DON'T FORGET;- FIRST, NOT FIST, AND SPARTACUS, NOT SPARTICUS.

I still love having a litmus test for a user name. It's always the most pathetic people who think they are clever by correcting it, despite the fact that I have already mentioned that it was an intentional misspelling based upon a joke.

But don't let that get in your way. That or, you know, an ever increasing degree of racial diversity which is inevitably overthrowing your perception of white superiority.

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I think if the GOP candidate for President questioned Obama's favorite basketball team, the race baters in the Democrat party would call him a racist.

Well, 8 years ago he wasn't a GOP candidate for president, was he?

Questioning a person's origin of birth has nothing to do with being a racist!

Every other candidate with a white mother born in the United States doesn't get questioned. So, yeah it does.

Can you people be any more pathetic?

Yeah, ask for the birth certificate of the thing on Trump's head.

Hillary is losing this election because you are such pathetic race baters and Americans are seeing riots in the streets once more because of it.

Hillary isn't losing, America is losing.

How traitorous is it to create dissention between Americans purely to garner Black votes?

10% as bad as creating dissention to garner the white vote.

We now have an entire women's basketball teams refusing to stand for the national anthem and their coach supported it!

IT'S SICKENING!

And that has what to do with Hillary?

This PC extremist Democrat party has become like those who will not stand for the national anthem.

Well, duh.

They seemingly hate America

You admittedly hate America.

with all the dissention they create between Blacks, women, Muslims, LGBT people, etc. etc.

That's like me pretending I am not on the same debate website as you.

It seems their goal is to tear America apart so they can take more control of the people.

Good thing you are wrong about everything.

For Democrats, it is divide and conqueor to win elections. They don't care how many cops die, how many cities are turned into war zones, as long as they win the election.

Cute

Those who will STILL vote for Hillary are the very people I am speaking to.

Actually, you are speaking to Republicans. You only ever talk to people who think like you. That's why you are so fucking dumb.

They either want tax payers to support them, or they are closet socialist ideologs.

Hey, you finally figured out that taxpayers paying for stuff isn't socialism. I am sure you will screw that up again in the future.

It has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with trying to silence the critics of Obama. It is meritless, it is baseless and is a desperate attempt by the left to shoot the messenger rather than addressing the message.

That was easy.

PS - You're welcome.

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It specifically has to do with his race. Like objectively, it has to do with race. Whether it is an attack or not is the question.

As for attempting to silence critics of Obama, that doesn't make any sense. Anyone who isn't perpetuating this birther claim isn't being criticized for it. If this was about what you were claiming, then they would be.

That was easy.

2 points

Being black isn't all doom and gloom. It's better than being gay. At least you don't have to worry about breaking the news to your parents.

2 points

It does NOT have anything to do with race. Once again, race baiting by a race baiter does not racism make.

The race card is used by the left to silence ALL criticism of Obama. It is played early, it is played often and without merit. Its sole purpose is to attack the critic in an effort to silence them so as to avoid addressing the issue raised.

I win. I must be the greatest!

2 points

Questioning a person's origin of birth has nothing to do with being a racist!

The action of questioning the origin of birth is not necessarily racist.

The question is why did we suddenly decide to question Obama’s origin of birth?

Of course, it is a requirement to be born in the US when running for president. Why weren’t the previous presidents’ origin of birth asked? *

We cannot deny that Obama was asked that question because his name suggests that he is of African descent. The reason the action was considered racist (in the whole Obama situation) is that clearly his African decent led him to be treated differently and not pleasantly.

How traitorous is it to create dissention between Americans purely to garner Black votes? We now have an entire women's basketball teams refusing to stand for the national anthem and their coach supported it!

I agree with you. It is sickening. It is politics.

However, it is important to note that dissention is easily created in a group of people that wasn’t very united in the first place. It is not like our country contains a very unified group of people. It is actually individualistic and self-centered.

This PC extremist Democrat party has become like those who will not stand for the national anthem. They seemingly hate America with all the dissention they create between Blacks, women, Muslims, LGBT people, etc. etc.

The whole American system encourages dissension. It always has. Survival of the fittest. Everyone fends for themselves. We've always have our rich white people, our black people, our white girls, Hispanic girls, Asian groups… Nothing was created. It has existed since the beginning of the United States. Politics today definitely isn't encouraging union. I am not even sure you want union. Do you really know that entails?

For Democrats, it is divide and conqueor to win elections. They don't care how many cops die, how many cities are turned into war zones, as long as they win the election.

You seem to truly believe that the American people were originally united but this presidential campaign is separating us. Did I misunderstand?

I am not denying that race and gender is grossly used by Hilary in order to gain votes. Ideally, I would have preferred a candidate that expresses a stronger desire to make education more accessible and health more universal. I would have preferred candidate that expresses the deep flaws in the American system, a candidate that will tell us the truth. Unfortunately, politics these days is reduced to childish tits and tats. It might even be naïve to hope the existence of such a political candidate because a good demagogue appeals to the majority.

I don’t understand why fingers are being pointed at the Democrats though. Do you believe that Republican don’t do the same?

Those who will STILL vote for Hillary are the very people I am speaking to. They either want tax payers to support them, or they are closet socialist ideologs.

I am voting against Trump because his impulsive nature is dangerous.

The idea that made our country great is “equal opportunity”. People aren’t born with equal opportunities. However, if certain basic survival tools were provided to them (education and health), people can have equal chances. All they have to do is work. This is what I believe in. Want to label it as socialist? Go ahead. It is all we ever do in my country anyway: label and categorize on bases of general criteria.

Now, you may ask why do I vote? I vote because it is my duty as an American citizen.

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The blacks look for an insult and if they cannot find an obvious one they invent one.

The poor ''badly done by'' blacks cannot accept that they are from the lower order of the species and as such will never be anything other than life's natural losers.

If they were capable of reasoned and rational thought they would have realized by now that they are nature's second class citizens in any country in which whites are dominant.

When this fact is pointed out to them they shout, racist, supremacist and other meaningless words in a forlorn attempt to console themselves and create a reason for their failure in life.

All they have to do is accept this indisputable and obvious truth and assume their subservient role in society. Once they have been able to face reality they will be much happier and less resentful.

Alternatively, the American and European blacks could all return to African countries such as Liberia and help to add to the great success of these wholly black nations.

Libria was formed by the liberated black slaves, ( thus the name) and if you check it out you'll find that with their great work ethic, innovation and intelligence have turned it into one of the richest nations on earth. Much like the Jews did in Israel.

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The last thing we need on this website is another Stormfront troll.

Gypsee(347) Disputed
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I find this argument to be void of any substance, backed up by faulty generalizations and therefore lacking logical soundness.

Your capacities for producing reasonable and rational thoughts should be seriously questioned.

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Is this person obsessed with FromWithin?

They keep posting things FromWithin wrote.

IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
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That's because FromWithin has most of us regulars on pre-ban, so Cuaroc copies FromWithin's debates (and attributes them to him) without banning anyone as a sort of "free-speech zone" protest.

pirateelfdog(2654) Clarified
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Also, along with what IAmSparticus does, Cuaroc does this because it makes FromWithin really really mad, and it's somewhat amusing to observe.

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It is a racial attack. It definitely has to do with race.

The thing is, you aren't just innocently questioning his birth, you are using it as a pathetic excuse.

In the end, you were wrong anyways.

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Of course, what else could it be? They must be "speaking in code", right? lol

IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
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No, it's all quite explicit.

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Do we need ANY more proof that "Stupidity comes FromWithin"??