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It was a just cause. Shame on all Americans.
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Tens of thousands of Americans funded terrorism.

For decades Americans, through an organization called Noraid funded the I.R.A, who killed and maimed many 1000s of innocent civilians and members of the security forces. The American funded I.R.A, bombed factories causing mass unemployment, murdered the directors of both international and local businesses, destroyed public transport, planted roadside bombs and shot members of the security in the back. The upshot was/is that this terrorist organization, similar to I.S., made the lives of ordinary Irish people an absolute misery. Yet when America suffers atrocities from I.S, and is under constant threat from Islamic terrorist filth the Yanks, quite rightly condemn the psychopathic murdering criminals. Even senior American political figures such as the kennedys and Tip O'Neil lent their support for this vile I.R.A. organization. Surely there is no difference between Islamic terrorist filth and Irish terrorist filth, or do Americans decide which terrorist groups should be deemed acceptable? 

It was a just cause.

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Shame on all Americans.

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Not all Americans fund terrorism. England is no angel either. .

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I can see truth to that. I guess it would also depend on what someone calls terrorism.

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GenericName(3430) Clarified
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I think it's safe to safe that planting improvised explosive devices with the intent of killing and harming innocent people for the purposes of influencing political decisions justifies being called terrorism.

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Exactly. I agree. .

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Jace(5050) Clarified
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Some would argue that if they have ever paid taxes then they have.

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It's the classic "Freedom Fighter" paradigm, mixed in with a healthy dose of xenophobia. With the IRA, many Americans saw a bunch of "brave, strapping Anglo men" fighting for their ancestral home. They held a general belief system steeped in Western culture and held religious beliefs similar to most Americans. That caused many Americans to ignore a shocking amount of barbarity and wanton violence. With the I.S., we have the cultural and religious barriers that cause many to see them as the epitome of "the Other". They might be fighting for what they believe to be their home (a bit more laughable in this situation), but they are of a religious group we have demonized for a long period of time (just about the entire length of our country's existence, and for practically the religion's entire existence as far as Europe is concerned) and an ethnic group that we have grown to associate with religious violence and generally backwards traditions. Without shared ethnicity, religion or culture, we have few shared traditions that would cause people to empathize with them, as opposed to the IRA.

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I wouldn't insult your intelligence by trying to patronize you but that was an excellent post. The misguided perception some Americans had of the I'R.A, would have been that of a bunch of brave strapping ''Gaelic men''..... The Anglo's were the ''planted'' English( of whom I'm one) and Scots and the bulk of the security forces. The I.R.A, were trying to achieve their political goals through bloody and barbaric violence, just in the same way as the I.S.

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The misguided perception some Americans had of the I'R.A, would have been that of a bunch of brave strapping ''Gaelic men''..... The Anglo's were the ''planted'' English

I can't believe I made that mistake, considering my family is Irish as well. Did not think that one through.

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Every time I tank up, I'm supporting some terrorists. That will continue to be for all of us until we become energy independent.

Side: Shame on all Americans.