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Terminators Predators
Debate Score:12
Arguments:13
Total Votes:12
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Terminators vs. Predators

Hypothetically, would the terminators win in a war, or the predators?

Terminators

Side Score: 4
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Predators

Side Score: 8
1 point

I didn't follow the movies too much, but aren't terminators pretty much indestructible? I think I saw one scene where one was trapped under a massive nuclear bunker door, and survived. The predators were killed with jungle traps.

Side: Terminators
Nick91983(269) Disputed
1 point

although it is true that the predator in the first movie was killed by a tree branch trap, we are talking about a war between the synthetic Terminator species a.k.a. Skynet and the Predator species. I think it is important to realize that the predator species is ancient and vastly advanced. We need to think about productive capacity of the species as a whole, the advantages of techonologies and population - this is why i side with the predators. The terminators are very difficult to destroy with conventional weapons (guns and explosives), but the predator has plasma canons and I dont even think the movies even began to demonstrate their tech as far as their ship's weapons are concerned. Honestly, I wouldnt be surprised if the Predators had a weapon that could disintigrate an entire planet - their arm sleeve armor is a small nuke after all.

Side: Predators
1 point

Terminators win. Terminators would include T-800, T-1000, and all future models. The ability to use different vision modes render the Predator's cloaking technology useless. Predators may be able to skewer human flesh easily, but reinforced metal exoskeleton isnt so. The ability to shapeshift and mimic sounds and voices allows later Terminator models to infiltrate Predator's HQ.

Side: Terminators
Nick91983(269) Disputed
1 point

Strong points, however you dont know the extent of predators reactive camo, it could be a cloak that bends light around it such that the Terminator would be incapable of detection no matter what vision mode is used. And also, the predator has the plasma canon (I think that is what we call it) which could easily eliminate a T-800 and rapidly downsize the T-1000 insofar as reducing the mass of the liquid metal. Also, the T-1000 probably doesnt have the ability to avoid all of the Predator's detection tech insofar as we dont know the basis of how their tech really works - it generally detects everything if in the proper mode - liquid metal might be readily detected such that the T-1000's shapeshifting and mimicry would be ineffective.

Also insofar as we are talking about a war between the factions, the predators have spaceships and potentially better weapons, greater numbers, and greater productive capacity (theoretically - based on the fact that their species is old and has probably colonized the galaxy to a great extent). The terminators are Earth bound and they can only produce as much as a single planet could possibly put out, and this is only if the predators allow the Terminators to leave the planet. Terminators have never navigated space and woudl thus be at a significant disadvantage insofar as effectively operating in space.

I am definitely on the Predator's side.

Side: Predators

Apparently, humans are superior to Terminators and Predators because we have beat both, but Predators have insane advanced weaponry and agility.

Side: Predators
2NE6(29) Disputed
1 point

Not true. It took about 5 special OPs trained human's deaths before the 6th took down 1 Predator; the Predator wins in this battle. In Predator 2 there were like what, 20 human deaths before the Predator got killed by a human? Except for the first movie, humans never won against the Terminator without the assistance of another Terminator. John Connor would have died 10 times without the T-800 in T2 and probably 20 times in T3.

Side: Terminators
1 point

Actually, humans do defeat a Terminator without the assistance of another Terminator. It was Terminator 1.

Side: Predators
1 point

Since the Terminators have no reactive camo, and as far as we know, do not operate in space, the Predators have the advantage, especially insofar as the Predator species has likely colonized other planets and thus has greater numbers and productive capacity. I like the predators more than the Terminators because they are Daseinian whereas the Terminators are merely computer programs (or at least predicated as such). It would be interesting to see how the Terminators would develop if they were to come into conflict with the Predators - space ships and all. However, is there any reason why Skynet would start a war with the predators or the predators with Skynet? The Terminator movies were based on the idea that Skynet perceived the humans as their greatest threat and thus used our strategic nuclear infrastructure to eliminate us. In some ways Skynet's perpetual fight with us doesnt make much sense, humans stopped being a threat once judgement day knocked us on our ass. In realistic terms, after judgement day the humans would stand no chance against the machines - all significant infrastructure and the ability to maintain effective resistance would be wiped out.

Also, with regard to the Terminators and the Predators - the predators could probably just bombard the planet with high energy weapons and/or EMPs to eliminate the Terminators. If you think about it, the Terminators, although formidable conceptually since they are robots and are built to kill, are really crappy if they cant wipe the humans out within a few weeks after judgement day. We are very fragile organisms and without a major advantage in numbers and weapons we would stand no real chance against them. The way the creators got around the human disadvantages was to artificially limit the Terminators such that their systems were vulnerable in specific ways - The predators are not quite as artificially limited in this way.

Side: Predators

I like them both but this one a little more.

Side: Predators