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Terrorism to one is Patriotism to another

Examples would include: The Taliban, al-Qaeda, the IRA, Lemumba, Che Guevera, the Sons of Liberty, and many other revolutionary forces or guerilla fighters.

Also, as Bohemian pointed out, Nationalism may be a better substitute for Patriotism

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This is true.

Just how one man's trash is another man's treasure.

Even in this country, we have different definitions of Patriotism. Liberals believe that they're patriots for wanting to change things for the better. Conservatives believe that they're patriots for preserving the traditions of the country and going after enemies who threaten it.

This doesn't really excuse others for bombing our buildings and flying planes into them. If you're going to attack us, of course we're going to kick your ass, no matter how you try to justify your actions.

Side: Semantics
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I wouldn't think of this statement as an attempt to justify any action, but merely to make one look at an event from both perspectives.

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This is an interesting debate. However I think there is a distinction to be made between nationalism and patriotism.

"George Orwell wrote that nationalism was one of the worst enemies of peace. He defined nationalism as the feeling that your way of life, country, or ethnic group were superior to others. These types of feelings lead a group to attempt to impose their morality on any given situation. When those standards were not met, more often then not, war would result.

In contrast he stated that patriotism was the feeling of admiration for a way of life etc. and the willingness to defend it against attack. The obvious difference between the two is that while patriotism is a passive attitude, nationalism is aggressive by nature."

Source: http://blogcritics.org/culture/article/nationalism-vs-patriotism/#ixzz1LzeDgQRT

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This is a good distinction, but besides providing such, you failed to actually address the validity of the prompt (using either patriotism or nationalism).

Side: Semantics
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So to answer your question, I think nationalism can contribute to terrorism (IRA and Hamas for example).

Side: Semantics

If you think killing innocent people who have done no wrong is a patriotic thing to do, then you're a despicable peice of shit, no matter what country you are from. This is why hippies were against the Vietnam War so aggressively as to practically encite violence: because some, SOME, of our troops found it acceptable to rape and murder and pillage Vietnamese civilians while offshores.

I.E. Just because the Japanese bombed our airbase doesn't make it right that we murdered the innocent, oppressed people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Believe it or not, countries like Nazi Germany have innocent people in them.

Side: Semantics
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This topic needs a little more thought put into it. Perhaps next time you could try to use a dictionary?

Side: Semantics
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Alright, do you have a problem with me? I am not trying to be hostile (honestly), but you just went through and downvoted 90% of my arguments in the Westborow Baptist debate, without providing a single rebuttal. And now you say that this debate is not thought out well? You realize it's a debate about philosophy....To some, the IRA were terrorists, and to others they were patriots. You do see the grey area, no?

Side: Semantics