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SO it depends on which terrorist you talk about? Bush?Obama?Clinton?Sarkozy?Big Corporations?Blair?There is a very very very long list with people who are terrorist and wear a suit and sleep the night in 6 star hotel and which are among us.
So lets define terrorist from wiki -Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, often violent, especially as a means of coercion.-
Who said they where terrorist? Who said Talibans where terrorists? Who knows anything about ousama ben laden, if not what the media is telling you?
Do you think that your media is telling the truth?
Do you know that USA is bombarding my country somalia with drones, and killing innocent people?!!! You never heard that on tv! While the US is not in war with somalia how can they bomb countries?!The only moment you can go in War is when you defend your self.Is this act not considering America as a terrorist?!(Of course no media is telling me there are terrorist like in iraq) Let me ask you how many countries did America and other western nation bombarded middle east nations or Asian?
I guess we are arguing over what the term terrorists means. So I'll make it clear. Who ever was involved (directly or indirectly) with the destruction of the World Trade Center..., is a terrorist. Whoever, launches rockets at Israel..., is a terrorist. Whoever is considered a Somalian Pirate (I threw that last in there just for you ;)..., is a terrorist.
Ok let me tell you that your own people destroyed the WTC , and I tell you this also, did you know that 1 day before of 9/11, 2.3 trillion dollar where missing of pentagon?Well these money is being lost, vanish, Au revoir 2.3 trillion dollars.And I want have you seen any architecture , claiming that the WTC could collapse because a plane straight down?Have they showed you any picture of the plane crashing the pentagon?
Let me ask you, who told you that Osama Ben laden was the head of al qaida?I guess Fox News
Israel the nation which did not sign the non proliferation treaty who has got many nuclear weapons ready to launch, but no one cares, instead every one cares of Iran!! What a brainwashing society!
I Condemn every Zionist to be a terrorist, they should be jailed!They think its their nation since 2000 years ago..They are committing murdering Genocide,ethinc cleansing, breaking international laws, chasing from their house, etc (there is a very long list which one can condemn Israel as terrorist nation)
Zionist always use the excuse that the Arab Riots 1929 where 133 Jews where killed by Arabs and 110 Arabs where killed by Jews, Indeed this brutal act of Arabs is a shame on all the Arab names, I denounce it clearly as a terrorist act! They should protest in a NON Violent way!
I have also read the Shaw Commission Investigation of 1929-1930. It is clearly saying that one of the reason was The violence occurred due to “racial animosity on the part of the Arabs,upon the disappointment of their political and national aspirations and fear for their economic future.
The Arabs feared economic domination by a group who appeared to the Arabs to have unlimited funding from abroad. The Commission acknowledged the ambiguity of former British statements to both Arabs and Jew.
So clearly Zionist were contriving already a hidden plan,to make the Jews rule over the Arab , and the Arab then done a Riot, which was horrible!
But I dont blame Jews, I blame Zionist!
What do you know about somalia?that all you hear about pirates and hunger?pathetic....
But why won't the other Arab states take in the Palestinian people?
Why don't the Palestinians just forget about ever getting back the land?
Why would our people destroy the WTC? What benefit is there in bombing Afghans?
Yeah..., Israel has the bomb. But you don't hear them talking about whipping a nation off the map. Yeah..., they have many nuclear weapons ready to launch..., but they are not pointing at us. If Iran gets nuclear weapons, they may point those weapons towards us.
Who cares whose land it is. Since the dawn of time, the land belongs to the strongest people in the region. To keep on fighting for a lost cause is suicide.
No one wants a non violent protest. If anyone wanted that, we would have that. But we don't have it. Everyone wants a violent solution so that we can put an end to it. As long as it is non violent, the argument will continue. The argument will end once we have a war and the last man standing wins the argument.
But why won't the other Arab states take in the Palestinian people?
Most of the arab states(government, kings) are scumbags, they pretend to be muslim nation but they dont follow what they should do, they are dogs of America, or little monkeys..So they stay useless..
One of the reason Take controle of the opium its a big buisness
Seconde reason and the main reason, Controle of the Oil not the afghan reserve,but the oil and gas of central Asia. The TAPI pipeline is the third-largest natural gas reserves in the world and Afghanistan is the crucial transit corridor.
Just research about it.
Yeah..., Israel has the bomb. But you don't hear them talking about whipping a nation off the map.
Another facts is that president ahmadinejadNEVER said he would wipe them out off the card. Many people are getting mislead because of that.
ahmadinejad said ”Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad.”
The full quote translated directly to English:
“The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time”.
Word by word translation:
Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).
Yeah..., they have many nuclear weapons ready to launch..., but they are not pointing at us. If Iran gets nuclear weapons, they may point those weapons towards us.
Iran does have the right to have nuclear facilities, it is no where written in any book that they couldn't get one. And who said they get nuclear weapon, THE IAEA no! they never said that. again misleading information
Who cares whose land it is. Since the dawn of time, the land belongs to the strongest people in the region. To keep on fighting for a lost cause is suicide.
No we shouldn't fight! We should resolve these problems in a non violent way! We should learn from history! We are all humans and some how we are all related to each other
OK..., fine..., the Israelis never said, "The Arabs must vanish from the page of time."
Where is it written that Iran has the right to nuclear weapons? If we have the power to prevent them from getting nuclear weapons, then guess what..., they don't get to exercise their perceived right.
Cool. So can you get those guys to stop launching rockets into Israel? ;)
I find it quiet unrespectful how you talk about others, they try to fight for their right! Therfore the only people who act like that are Zionist. I guess you are a Zionist
No, I am not a Zionist. They piss me off too. But what can you do?
I would tell the Palestinians to stop their acts of terror and take whatever Israel has to offer. Just make a state. Anywhere. No matter how small. Then work on your economy, and build an army. When they are strong enough, they can try and kick Israel's ass out of Israel and claim back the land.
That's how it's done. Their tactics have not advanced their cause in decades. After trying and trying the same way for decades, they have nothing to show for it. It is time to try an new strategy. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and again and expecting a different outcome. For decades, their tactics have been the same and for decades the outcome has been the same. It is time they changed their tactics.
But they tried numerous of time where the Palestinian asked to get the independence, but you know its very selective who gets it , while south Sudan, became within 1 week member of the security council in the UN, Palestinian tried since 1948,1967,etc The problem is the western government itself they dont want to see them independent.
But Palestinian where ready to make peace,when Yasser Arafat was there, but the Israel contrived again wicked plans to take over more lands.
Indeed they do same but they are getting abused , chased out of their home. On the other hand you have other nations are staying quiet about this.Its sad
The U.N. is worthless. It has no power. The only real currency on this planet is real power..., fire power. If you ain't got it, you might as well give it up. ;)
Indeed UN is useless, it became big party for imperialistic countries,Whoever of the non permanent member does not behave to the US get himself seen cut of his AID programme, happen already for yemen, during the sanctions of iraq.
Therefor Fire power remain dangerous,we shouldnt use it. Would you like to be killed tomorrow?Just because your nation had some beef , or you seen you family member killed.
We should move to a upper stage of thinking, War is brining everything just worse, and a new totalitarianism system is coming on the daylight
I don't understand why people think dying is such a bad thing. We are all going to die some day. What difference does it make if it's sooner or later? If it's later, you may have to deal with some painful disease or something. Also, based on my conversation with you so far..., life ain't that great. So why bother with non violent solutions when the violent solution is quicker, more action packed (not boring) and has the potential of reaching a real solution once one side has been totally exterminated? But that's just me ;)
Indeed we will one day disappear from this world, But the question is what have you achieved before you die? What is your purpose of life?Killing each other wont help us.
If we take all borders of the nations, and all the nationalities out,religion,parties what do we have got left?Human kind. We should care each other as human kind , even if we have different nations, religion,we need to go beyond of the old human mentality. We need to be the best of our self,the modest,the simple,the non cheater, the non profit,we need to be what we where created for.
Indeed life is not great at the moment, so You need to work on it, to make the difference, we are the future, for the next generation on the world, and not the politicians,or dictators! But WE.
That's my point. Most people don't achieve much before they die.
If you want to live a simple life, you will have to kill the government. They are the ones that start wars and send people off to war. But if you kill the governments, people would create new governments.
But I ask you again, why does a peace loving person such as yourself own an AK 47?
Indeed, we need to abolish this government in non violent way. They went in War even if most of american citizan were against it, many big corporation are getting tons of money if America goes in war.
Willian cohen in 1999 the secretary of defense US declared that the US is committed to Unilateral use of military power to defend vital interest, which some of them are ensuring in unrestrained access to key markets,energy supplies, and strategic resources
But I ask you again, why does a peace loving person such as yourself own an AK 47?
I'm really curious
LoL
As I told you that, if in my home nation, I would be attacked by Imperialistic Nation who drops Bombs,kills civilians, family members, I would grab my AK 47 and defend my right, as they are not at all ready to deal in a non violent Way, and that they are breaking International Laws
Your AK 47 is useless against American Fire Power. Look at how we fight wars. We use unmanned drones to attack key targets. We have stealth planes and the best air force on the planet. Our soldiers are highly trained. In an all out war, we would not be doing nation building like we did in Iraq. We would kill anyone threatening our vital interests.
Al qaeda almost controls Pakistan right now. They can bride officials into office, we see it happening now. Pakistan is also considered Nuclear. And yes Pakistan does have a surplus of nuclear warheads. Over 80 nuclear warheads in their arsenal. Enough for France, UK, Israel, and America.
If Al qaeda get controls of Pakistan. Well...BOOM!
I believe the artist is Pawel Kuczynski, I once got frowned at in a mathematics lesson for looking at his artwork.
Back to the debate, I do agree that Terrorists™ keep getting better weapons, maybe we should stop giving them weapons and then they won't have weapons.
Who are these terroriste you talk about cuz as I know there are terroristes in the pentagone, in the white house, in Paris, terrorism has been practiced by political organizations for furthering their objectives. Many of the coup d etat like in IRAN.
So people should stop thinking that the terrorist is the man with the beard in the middle east, because let me tell you this that since western invaded Afghanistan, the opium production jumped to a high record, the CIA it self is selling drugs to your own people
I think you should watch this video and learn and research about it cuz you wont hear this on the CCA(THE COMMUNICATION CORPORATION OF AMERICA) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUlQ7vElqqo
So if you government is looting your own country, do you really think they dont do the same overseas?!
I want tell all to you people that these so called "terrorist with the turban" have the right to blow up your American soldiers,and French,and Britain, and specially they should give death sentence to these government who ordered these attacks!
Let me ask you if the US wouldn't bomb day and night over the middle east and conducting military operations, wouldn't kill civilians of any segment(include children!)Their live being destroyed!DO they not have the right to get enraged!!!To chase them out?To do a riot against US ambassador?The right to fight back?While the Imperialistic countries think they have the right to bomb countries and declare them terrorists!
What would you people do if you get invaded from all the sides and getting declared as terrorists,being discriminated, bombarded?
Until the Western countries dont call their armies back and drones withdraw all their base they dont have the right to condemn any brutality that may fallow against their own people!
But you military wanted to be there, the only way they can manage that is to create a fear. The fear of terror, so who can fight against that fear? America. Which fear is it against? The middle east! You remember was the same for iraq, where they killied millions of children,many of them have now no education anymore, they have got nothing left then anger.
Why would our military want to be in Afghanistan? I mean..., really? Really!!!
Our military killed millions of children... really? Really!!! How about Al Qaeda? They didn't blow anything up and kill innocent Iraqis? Are there any more bombs going off in Iraq? Is that from our military as well?
It really doesn't matter. Let's just have an all out war. Winner takes all ;)
Let me rectify it Half of million, And 1 death of a child its already to much! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PgpbQfxgo (look at this 0.23sec trailer where she get questioned)
If my child would die tomorrow because of a western soldier for the oil control, trust me, i would take my AK 47 and shot them death
Al Qaeda? Its the American and Britain who massacred civilians , not al qaeda.
They destroyed the hole land dude! Iraq before it has been invaded it was the country in the middle east which had the best living standard and education, every child Had to go in shool. Look at it now..western countries destroyed it, desperate. people blow them self uP. Have you tought about their mental state?
Dude War its not fun! It a hole life getting vanished! how can you be happy about war ?! Can you not see during all the decade, human kind is still brutal as this noble man describes our human mind
I understand that the death of your child would traumatize you. I get that. But life is really not that valuable. Gold is valuable. There not much gold on this planet and we cannot make more gold..., but there are lots and lots of people and we can always make more. And except for very few people, most of them don't matter much to the rest of the world. Oh sure, they matter to their friends and relatives..., but not to the rest of the world. Tell me..., did you really care about the people who died on 9/11?
Does you life not have a value?You are the first person I ever heard saying that lol.You are human being, the way you body works , its immunity system so complex,the architecture of your body, the mechanism, and on top of that you have a mind!and that soul in you!Thats so amazing!You cant value this, it has no price and you cant compare it with GOLD omg lol
Therefore everyone ,every soul, is something that you cant value, its beyond it.
And human kind brought value on the gold.Because its limited.But Human lost his mind when he seen a profit on the paper money, to create money out of thin air.
Indeed we cant reach every human being in the world, but the engagement starts in your community.
Of course I cared, of everyone who died in there, it could be me, as yourself. But pentagon,US government,cia,fbi they need to take accountability for what they did, the people in the WTC that they killed and overseas. These people are the main problem.
The value my soul has is not on this planet. The value is on the next life.
If life is so valuable, why do suicide bombers throw their life away? Did the suicide bombers of 9/11 make life better for the Arabs? Did it make it worse for Americans? Is Allah so weak that He needs suicide bombers to defend His name? If Allah is so great and mighty, why doesn't He deal with the Americans Himself? Why doesn't He make life better for His people? The Christian God, and the Jewish God, have taken care of their people.
I don't believe in wild conspiracy theories that are too convoluted to implement flawlessly.
Did Osama deny responsibility for 9/11? Did Al Qaeda deny responsibility for 9/11?
Do you also believe that the Holocaust never happened? That the Holocaust forgery is the best kept secret on the planet? That Americans never went to the moon? Is everything an American conspiracy? Are Arabs guilt free?
I blame everyone for the state of the world (including myself). Because the world is a product of all of our choices. I don't sympathize with the Americans. I don't sympathize with the Zionist (I met one in college and I wasn't impressed). I don't sympathize with the Jews, the Christians nor the Pope. And I especially don't sympathize with Arabs nor Islam.
As far back in history as you can possibly go, humans have been fighting. I have no hope that humans will ever come together and live in peace. The best I can hope for is for one giant war to end all wars. A war that leaves only one group. But even if that happens..., the group will start fighting among themselves. I base my belief on human history since the beginning of time. If it hasn't gotten any better by now, what makes you think it will? And if life is not going to get any better, what makes it so valuable?
But hey..., I'm just a troll on this site. I made lots of points telling jokes and not being serious..., so what do I know ;)
haha, well,I mean by that for self defence, attacking a country will never solve problem, people will just hate each other, but if war starts despite negotiation, people who are getting attacked can take their ak 47 to defend themself.
Did you know that the Arab spring was a plot of the Americans?
I want to tell you one advice is to never never believe what the news tells you,do your own research about it of every angle of view. They were always lying to us, and they keep doing it, because they have their own interest
Why is it that your news sources never lie to you but my news sources always do?
Why is it that when your news sources tell you that it is all an American plot, then it is true but if my news sources tell me it's an Arab plot then it's a lie?
I dont blame all your sources as I dont know everything you hear at. Me I watch press TV, and Russian today, and some different to compare the news, then I look up in internet for sources.
But I use to be like you and believe what ever the news tells me of every source, cuz why would they lie to me?
The broadcast company is owned by someone, these person want to show people whatever the CEO wants to be shown, then there are lobbyist..etc
I.e As they want to show Iran as a terrorist, basically they are sharing propaganda.
But everything every source, even my own words are propaganda, I tell you my believes in which I could lie, or tell the truth.
The use of propaganda is a powerful knowledge, Hitler used it even in his strategy in attempting to weaken the opinions and attitudes of his victims to his own purposes.
One important quote of Hitler was even The greater the lie, the more effective it is as a weapon So by this he means if you tell a lie, dont tell a small lie, but instead tell the biggest lie, which gives you more power in return!
History is repeating itself, we are already in a WW3, Western nations are getting more control over middle east and north Africa resources, it is like a new way of colonisation of the resources..They use excuses as Arab spring, in which western nation are contriving hidden plans.If you research you can find facts and lies which media are telling you.
Do you believe that America is moving into a totalitarianism nation?
If this country goes bankrupt or starts heading in that direction, there's a chance of totalitarianism. But I would expect a major war before that.
As far as news/propaganda. I try to only get the facts. Is Iran enriching Uranium? Yes. Do they need enriched Uranium for electricity? No. Are they building a bomb? They would be stupid not to. Will they use it? Who knows? Do I have any power over the situation? No. Should I care? Why? There's nothing I can do about it.
