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Debate Score:78
Arguments:50
Total Votes:102
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The Bible- A Disgrace to the Human Imagination, Reality, Infinity and Existence?

It's not worthy to be the book of the universe is all I'm saying, it should be seen as a fantastic archeological connection between people of the past and the present and not some "ulimate infinite thing" when it's words don't match the infinite awesomeness it should have.

Yes

Side Score: 40
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No

Side Score: 38
4 points

It is a disgrace because of the place it has in our global civilization. if it were some random book on the shelf it might be sort of interesting in the same way the odessy is but I dont think it is a good book.

Side: Yes
3 points

It's not worthy to be the book of the universe is all I'm saying, it should be seen as a fantastic archeological connection between people of the past and the present and not some "ulimate infinite thing" when it's words don't match the infinite awesomeness it should have.

Side: Yes
AntiUncleC(12) Disputed
1 point

You know i dont get why people dont like say things like that about the koran or the torah but no just the bible gets slagged off constantly as they know that the christians dont gert stupidly mad and start killing people and burning things because of this...

Side: No
BenWalters(1513) Disputed
3 points

You know i dont get why people dont like say things like that about the koran

Are you fucking serious? No one disrespects the Qu'ran? How long ago was it that the US government, someone who's meant to encourage friendliness Islam & provide a fair treatment to all, burnt Qu'ran's en masse? How many sites are their debunking the Qu'ran's claims of science? How many on its morality? What about people's opinions, Islamaphobia is a huge problem, all over the Western world. You're both self absorbed and ignorant to the extreme if you cannot see that people are against Islam.

the bible gets slagged off constantly as they know that the christians dont gert stupidly mad and start killing people and burning things because of this...

Not only is that hugely offensive, it's wrong. As I've previously mentioned, there have been (many) instances of Qu'ran burning, as well as book burnings of other sorts. There's many instances of 'Christian terrorists' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism , so that statement is lacking in fact.

And I'm not even going to bother to attack the insulting way in which you present your argument, pretty sure you're not bothered. Hardly Christian, but that doesn't affect me.

Side: Yes
AntiUncleC(12) Disputed
0 points

Not a fantasy. That is not fiar, and we dont say other holy books are fiction. Christians don;t call books on the Big bang or evolution fiction.

Side: No
Dremorius(861) Disputed
3 points

The books on evolution and the big bang aren't made by God- but the bible is claimed to be written by God even if there are verses like "He who curses their parents must be put to death."

And God is supposed to be perfect and Moral beyond bounds.

Side: Yes
Dremorius(861) Disputed
2 points

Quit down voting without leaving a reply- it is a cowardly and dishonorable act.

Side: Yes
2 points

I'm sure anybody who has read my arguments in the past will be surprised to find me on this side, but here I am.

Were I God, the Bible would look a lot different. I'm not saying it isn't how it should be, just not how I'd have had it. In all honesty, I find plenty of it to be boring, only the books such as the Kings and Judges and Revelation do I find truly fascinating. The Epic of Gilgamesh is more to my liking for what could almost be termed "prehistoric literature", were one to accept the Greeks and Egyptians as being the originators of historiography. As a solipsist, much of the philosophy in the Bible I'd have written differently; still, it is an okay book.

Side: Yes

In all honesty, you're up there pretty high on my 'theists I respect for their beliefs' list. You know your stuff, don't try and assert yourself over anyone else, and have no problem being highly critical of Christianity at the same time. Also, I can't help but agree with most of what you say on the subject, which probably helps a lot.

Side: Yes
1 point

Too true. I dont belive its boring exept the lists of dead people who didn't do anything intresting. that is very boring. but I agree it has done nothing to be a disgrace.

Side: Yes
Dremorius(861) Disputed
1 point

God invented writing, how could he have failed so bad in his literature skills? Isn't he a being of infinite perfection and infinite everything?

Only a human can write a boring piece of writing.

And God is supposed to give infinite inspiration had he ever written anything.

The bible doesn't deserve to claim that it was written or composed of the influence of God, because only a human can have that kind of literature skill found in the bible.

Side: No
1 point

I'm sure anybody who has read my arguments in the past will be surprised to find me on this side, but here I am.

I agree; you rarely ever hold logical positions.

Side: Yes
1 point

you rarely ever hold logical positions.

I take it both because you supported my argument and because of the lauding I received from Ben that you are being sarcastic in this statement.

Side: Yes
2 points

The bible deficates on human intelligance due to the fact that the storys are put in there to establish morals to people who should figure out their own set of morals rather than having rules and ethics pounded into your head.

Side: Yes
1 point

I believe the bible is a beautiful piece of work. But is is also tooken of context do to peoples lack of reading and understanding of old english. The words of God should be folloed by those who believe and the stories that were written should be in reference to your own self experience.

Side: Yes
1 point

If it were taken as a fictional storybook it'd be great, but unfortunately its not...

Side: Yes
1 point

God made people in the 18th century unintelligent, less creative, and brain dead boring. There was the reprecussion of science. If we didn't have "God" or the Bible we could've actually been more advanced. Anyone who questioned god could die, imagination was restricted because you could die too for making a invention that is "unholy", really the bible helps us in no way, infinity? yes, existence because of all the things above that I wrote.

Side: Yes
3 points

The bible is 3000 year old philosophy and poetry. I wouldn't say that it's a disgrace.

If we took the epic poems of Greek or Roman literature literally, we would see similar issues that we see with the Bible. However, i feel that there wouldn't be so much hostility towards what the bible says if there was no religion surrounding it.

it seems that anti-theists give in to their emotions as well. The bible is beautiful.

Side: No
Dremorius(861) Clarified
3 points

Quote from debate description.

it should be seen as a fantastic archeological connection between people of the past and the present and not some "ulimate infinite thing" when it's words don't match the infinite awesomeness it should have.

I am saying the bible is not suitable to be the book of existence and everything.

Side: Yes
3 points

I think the old testament is pretty entertaining actually.

Side: No
3 points

Is the Bible a word from the god? or just was writ from the normal pepole?

Side: No
2 points

Its actually done a lot of good things for society...a lot of bad things too though...

Side: No
Dremorius(861) Clarified
5 points

It doesn't really matter what the bible has done to human society.

The meaning of this debate is whether the bible is worthy enough to be an object of infinite awesomeness, as after all, it was made by a being who created infinite awesomeness (God.)

Side: Yes
1 point

He created waterfalls, rainbows, cacao pods to make chocolate, water, the sun, love he cerated LOVE, Hummingbrids, he created people like Joe Brooks (look him up on youtube if you don;t know who he is), and others!!!!!!!

Side: No
1 point

Then yes, I think it is worthy...I don't believe in it...but its a good religion that motivates people to be good people...and its just as valid as all other (good) religions and ideas.

Side: No
AntiUncleC(12) Disputed
1 point

Explain. I am sick of people not putting arguments but vauge comments and expected to be applauded and offered points. The bad stuff is called HUMAN REACTION. not the bible. If I wrote a good book and someone went round killing people because of it it would NOT BE MY FAULT unless I purposefully chose to make it that way. You cannot prove the authors did taht. Besides, how does that make it a disgrace to Imagination?!

Side: No
1 point

No one on this debate saying 'yes' has a good argument with EVIDENCE. I mean, people who are broken have been healed by the bible HOW IS IT A DISGRACE?!?!

Side: No
Liber(1730) Clarified
2 points

Some people who were whole were broken by the Bible.

Side: Yes
Apollo(1608) Disputed
2 points

Where is your evidence? The bible is full of god killing…massacring innocent children, murdering innocents, feeding his ego, etc.

Side: Yes
1 point

the caption is correct but the title is wrong. .

Side: No
Dremorius(861) Clarified
1 point

Understand existence, understand infinity and understand the boundless imagination of humanity, and then understand how the bible limits these things, and then you will understand why it is a disgrace.

Side: Yes
1 point

The bible is not a disgrace. It is an individual's choice wheather they want to read i or not. This is like saying fairytales are a disgrace because they explain fantasy and non-realistic things to children.

Side: No

The Bible was written during a time when plenty of people were not literate. One has to remember the times when the Bible was written and then form an opinion.

Side: No
0 points

How is the bible a disgrace when it has given people a reason to live, it helps some people stop smoking. What has it done to be a disgrace? That is extremelly disrespectful to people who would've commited suicide if God hadn't have told them they were special. How has it stopped imagination? Joe Brooks is an imaginative writer of songs and HE IS CHRISTIAN. How, when it describes teh start of creation so vividly, how can god have no imagination to create a universe like this?

Side: No