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The Hypocrisy of Mr Angry ( Burrito ) as he accuses everyone of racism
Let’s have a look at what his hero’s champagne Socialists had to say about blacks and Jews ......
Marx’s racism was not limited to Jews. His contempt for other races is made clear in his enthusiasm for the work of the racist French ethnologist Pierre Tremaux.
Marx wrote to Engels that Tremaux had “proved that the common Negro type is the degenerate form of a much higher one” and that this was “a significant advance over Darwin”.
A further example can be found in Marx’s correspondence with Engels in 1862, saying that his rival “the Jewish Nigger Lasalle” was leaving Britain to return to Germany:
“It is now absolutely clear to me that, as both the shape of his head and his hair texture shows – he descends from the Negroes who joined Moses’ flight from Egypt (unless his mother or grandmother on the paternal side hybridized with a nigger.) Now this combination of Germanness and Jewishness with a primarily negro substance necessarily creates a strange product. The pushiness of the fellow is also nigger-like.”
We can all take history out of context if we want to, you sick Nazi paedophile.
Lincoln didn’t believe black people should have the same rights as white people.
His views became clear during an 1858 series of debates with his opponent in the Illinois race for U.S. Senate, Stephen Douglas, who had accused him of supporting “negro equality.”
In their fourth debate, at Charleston, Illinois, on September 18, 1858, Lincoln made his position clear. “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races,” he began, going on to say that he opposed blacks having the right to vote, to serve on juries, to hold office and to intermarry with whites.
while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.
I have never seen, to my knowledge, a man, woman or child who was in favor of producing a perfect equality, social and political, between negroes and white men.
The last quote is of course particularly interesting because it illustrates that society in general was racist during that period in history, and that what our fascist friend Dermot is doing is deliberately misleading people. He is taking people of his choosing out of that period and scrutinising them from the perspective of a society several centuries into the future.
Because he's a Nazi. And misleading people is what Nazis do.
Marx died in the 19th century. We are now living in the 21st century. I understand that you're stupid, but surely even you can understand the 19th century is not the same century as the 21st century.
Right so the segregation of blacks even going back to the 1960’s was just fine using your logic ?
Oh, sure buddy, that makes perfect sense. So you're saying we should just let adults have sex with children without there being legal consequences? What kind of sick bastard even thinks something like that?
Oh, sure buddy, that makes perfect sense. So you're saying we should just let adults have sex with children without there being legal consequences? What kind of sick bastard even thinks something like that?
But that’s exactly what you’re saying you said it’s fine to be racist once it’s in the past
“We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
I noted how you like to spend all day attacking Jews like you did just yesterday with Marx. You were accusing him of rape and a litany of other crimes.
Then you come back the very next day and accuse other people of hating Jews.
I guess you can take the Nazi out of Germany, but you can't take Germany out of the Nazi, right bud?
I noted how you like to spend all day attacking Jews like you did just yesterday with Marx. You were accusing him of rape and a litany of other crimes.
I didn’t ‘attack ‘ Marx for being a Jew I pointed out he was a rapist , a hypocrite who invested in the stock market and a man who despised the working classes ,he refused to offer Engels sympathy when Engels ‘bit on the side ‘ died , Marx believed her common and lowly as she worked as a maid
Then you come back the very next day and accuse other people of hating Jews.
See that I criticise Marx for what he was and never one mentioned his Jewishness you have spent 6 years harrassing a Jew on here and everyone else is the Nazi Bwaaaaaaahahahahahaha
I guess you can take the Nazi out of Germany, but you can't take Germany out of the Nazi, right bud?
Well I guess you know best as you daily attack a Jew on here it’s like a red rag to a Bull for you .......Maybe you’re Jewish why not get a DNA test to confirm it ?
Spare us your lies, you obnoxious Jew-hating cretin. You claimed Marx was a rapist for no other reason than because he was Jewish. Nobody believes a word that you say because you are a Nazi and Nazis do not have the best track record with the truth.
Ha ha, Says a Jew-hating Nazi who has no evidence Marx ever raped anybody and wants desperately to deflect away from his own Jew-hating Nazi propaganda now that it has been exposed.
Ha ha, I’m a Jew-hating Nazi who has evidence Marx raped his maid I’m desperately attempting to deflect away from my own Jewishness which DNA has confirmed as I embrace Nazi propaganda and time machines
Bwaaaaaaahahahahahaha comrade Burritos defence is Marx’s racism is fine as there is a context for it ........Thats Socialism for ya ......
Marx on blacks , who he called ‘niggers ‘ ........
“It is now absolutely clear to me that, as both the shape of his head and his hair texture shows – he descends from the Negroes who joined Moses’ flight from Egypt (unless his mother or grandmother on the paternal side hybridized with a nigger.) Now this combination of Germanness and Jewishness with a primarily negro substance necessarily creates a strange product. The pushiness of the fellow is also nigger-like.”
As you can see it has an "extreme far right bias".
One can also see that you haven't told anybody where your quotes are from, presumably because you are also aware of the laughable lack of credibility which the source has.
One can also see that you haven't told anybody where your quotes are from, presumably because you are also aware of the laughable lack of credibility which the source has.
Right , so the correspondence between Marx and Engels which you haven’t read ( or wisely ignored ) doesn’t exist .....got ya
Right , so the correspondence between Marx and Engels
That isn't what you posted you laughably dishonest Nazi imbecile. The very first sentence of what you posted accuses Marx of being racist against his own race. You're literally a stupid Nazi liar.
You dumb Ox even the dumbest Socialist knows of Marx’s antisemitism tell me dummy can you point out one comment from Marx where he admits and takes pride in his Jewishness .......what’s that ....No ......well who would have thought ...
Marx on Jews in a famous essay you’ve once again never read .....
The second part of Marx's essay is frequently cited as evidence of Marx's antisemitism:
Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.[...] The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish manner, not only because he has acquired financial power, but also because, through him and also apart from him, money has become a world power and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations. The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews. [...] In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism.
Yeah, socialists are too busy smoking joints and getting laid to work. It's such a tough life...
I know how did I miss this every hot chick loves a bearded unemployed wretch with a cloth cap and a copy of Das Kapital as a fantasy fuck ........put the joint down it’s playing havoc with your imagination
I busted you for that lie 6 months ago when I pointed out that you write in American English. The place where you claim to be from (i.e. Ireland) writes in British English.
The thing I've noticed that everybody on the far right appears to have in common is that they are all really massive fucking liars. Any idea why that might be?
Marx on Jews in a famous essay you’ve once again never read
You are very repetitive. I've already illustrated that you are committing a fallacy. You are taking people out of the times in which they lived and judging them by today's standards, which is a common fallacy the right likes to use when appealing to emotion and myth. Unfortunately, the right never seems to realise that it can be done right back to them. They are stupid like that:-
Lincoln with additional reasons why the Negroes should be colonized. Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people, he declared; as long as the Negroes continued to live with the whites they would constitute a threat to the national life. Family life might also collapse and the increase of "the mixed breed bastards," might some day challenge the supremacy of the white man.
I've already illustrated that you are committing a fallacy. You are taking people out of the times in which they lived and judging them by today's standard
But you’re doing it with Lincoln you dummy WTF?????
So everyone in Marx’s time was a raging racist like him ?
If you open any history book in the entire world it will tell you that Hitler banned socialism, imprisoned the socialists and dedicated his entire life to exterminating Marxism.
"In the years 1913 and 1914 I expressed my opinion for the first time in various circles, some of which are now members of the National Socialist Movement, that the problem of how the future of the German nation can be secured is the problem of how Marxism can be exterminated."[108]
During the 1920s, Hitler urged disparate Nazi factions to unite in opposition to Jewish Bolshevism.[266] Hitler asserted that the "three vices" of "Jewish Marxism" were democracy, pacifism and internationalism.[267] The Communist movement, the trade unions, the Social Democratic Party and the left-wing press were all considered to be Jewish-controlled and part of the "international Jewish conspiracy" to weaken the German nation by promoting internal disunity through class struggle.[57]
I mean, it isn't as if I don't have respect for the extremity of the deception. Using Nazi propaganda from the 1930s to promote the idea that the enemies of the Nazis are the "real Nazis". But it is wearing thin now. Everybody who has had an education understands what you are doing, and since it is as nauseating as it is dishonest, you're going to repulse just as many voters as you gain from it.
Suck it up son Hitler acknowledged his debt to Marx and said he was putting what Marx theorised about into action as in doing away with the Capitalist class who were mostly Jews .......Open a History book son .......
In statement after statement, Hitler could not be clearer about his socialist commitments. He said, for example, in a 1927 speech, “We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
Suck it up son Hitler acknowledged his debt to Marx
Lol. Hitler dedicated his entire adult life to exterminating Marxism you absurd child. He despised it just like you despise it, and told lies about it just like you are telling lies about it.
What you twats on the extreme far right never understand is that, contrary to your words, the facts of what physically happened expose your bullshit for what it is.
and said he was putting what Marx theorised about into action
Ahahahaha!!! He declared war against class conflict you ridiculous imbecile. Explain how making socialism illegal in Germany and imprisoning the socialists in concentration camps was "putting what Marx theorised about into action"!!!
You are stupid beyond the point of complete absurdity.
Nonsense, Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist “exploitation” by capitalists , particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their programs called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. Yet a popular myth persists that the Nazis themselves were right-wing extremists. This insidious lie biases the entire political landscape today.
Nonsense, Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist “exploitation” by capitalists , particularly Jewish capitalists, of course.
The Nazis claimed that communism was dangerous to the well-being of nations because of its intention to dissolve private property, its support of class conflict, its aggression against the middle class, its hostility towards small business and its atheism.[261]
You keep telling the lies. I'll keep showing everybody that you are a liar. If that is entertaining for you (as it clearly appears to be), then awesome.
Hitler on Socialism 1927 ..... , “We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism.
Oh, cool. But if Hitler was anti-capitalist, as you seem to be suggesting, can you explain how and why capital in Germany managed to outperform capital in the United States during the same period?
Hitler on Socialism 1927 ..... , “We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism.
In statement after statement, Hitler could not be clearer about his socialist commitments.
Please source this claim, because it clearly is not true, as evidence from the time illustrates:-
"Why," I asked Hitler, "do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party programme is the very antithesis of that commonly accredited to socialism?" (Interview with Adolf Hitler, George Sylvester Viereck, 1923).
So, as early as 1923, the world was already aware that Hitler was not a socialist. But apparently in 2020 the right knows less than the world did in 1923. You have to credit that level of absurd stupidity with a whistle. You actually know less than people living a full century earlier than you. Concrete evidence that the American far right is actually devolving rather than evolving.
Text book Socialism ...... Letter (16 September 1919), quoted in Eberhard Jäckel, Hitler's World View: A Blueprint for Power (Harvard University Press, 1981), p. 48
Our fight is with money. Work alone will help us, not money. We must smash interest slavery. Our fight is with the races that represent money.
“The Nazi 25-point Programme,” Hitler’s speech on party's program (February 24, 1920) in Munich, Germany. Nazi Ideology Before 1933: A Documentation, Barbara Miller Lane, Leila J. Rupp, introduction and translation, Manchester University Press (1978) p. 43.
Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism.
So you are openly using Adolf Hitler's own propaganda. Why would anybody take you seriously after you apparently expect us to put our faith in the claims of Adolf Hitler? Adolf Hitler claimed he wouldn't annex Czechoslovakia too, but guess what?
As I have explained to your stupid Nazi ass once already, capital in Nazi Germany outperformed capital in America during the same period, so clearly Hitler was lying when he said he was fighting against money.
You’re seriously quoting from a commie mag called Jack off bin ....Bwaaaaaaahahahahahaha
Read it and weep son .......
Hitler on Socialism 1927 ..... , “We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism.
Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist “exploitation” by capitalists , particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their programs called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. Yet a popular myth persists that the Nazis themselves were right-wing extremists. This insidious lie biases the entire political landscape today.
In statement after statement, Hitler could not be clearer about his socialist commitments. He said, for example, in a 1927 speech, “We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
Hitler preached anything which would win him votes you retarded fuck. Stop getting your information from Adolf Hitler if you want to convince any random idiot that you are something other than a fascist.
“We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
Hitler again? Interesting. Explain more to us about the intellectual credibility of Hitler. You've quoted him four times in the last thirty minutes and seem to be extremely familiar with the things he said. I personally do not know what Hitler said because alas, I am not a Nazi and have learned enough about Hitler to know he was a pathological liar.
Ahhh you’re resorting to your “ no true Scotsman “ ‘defence ‘ .......
You still cannot give an example of a Socialist state or indeed a Socialist
Funny Marx who invested in the stock market was a ‘real’ Socialist his buddy Engels the millionaire who mixed with lords and ladies and paid his staff minimun wage was a ‘real Socialist’ ....Hitler who overthrew the capitalist classes and sized power as Marx recommended was not a Socialist .......interesting .....l
Hitler........
“We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
You truly need to get something through your head. You cannot win if you are factually incorrect.
You refuse to ever scrutinise the claims of Adolf Hitler (the most notorious liar in 20th century political history) because you love and cherish him as your fuhrer and believe he would never lie to you. Is that not true?
Ahhh right Hitler did as Marx proposed Marx did the opposite but Hitler is the liar got ya ....
You still cannot give an example of a Socialist state or indeed a Socialist, why’s that ?
Funny Marx who invested in the stock market was a ‘real’ Socialist his buddy Engels the millionaire who mixed with lords and ladies and paid his staff minimun wage was a ‘real Socialist’ ....Hitler who overthrew the capitalist classes and sized power as Marx recommended was not a Socialist .......interesting .....
Hitler did as Marx proposed Marx did the opposite but Hitler is the liar got ya ....
You still cannot give an example of a Socialist state or indeed a Socialist, why’s that ? No response from Mr Angry
Funny Marx who invested in the stock market was a ‘real’ Socialist his buddy Engels the millionaire who mixed with lords and ladies and paid his staff minimun wage was a ‘real Socialist’ ....Hitler who overthrew the capitalist classes and sized power as Marx recommended was not a Socialist .......interesting .....
I see you are now editing your own posts too because you are too stupid to get them right the first time. Let's have a look at these "simple questions".
You still cannot give an example of a Socialist state or indeed a Socialist, why’s that ?
That's a false claim on both counts, so ignored.
Funny Marx who invested in the stock market was a ‘real’ Socialist his buddy Engels the millionaire who mixed with lords and ladies and paid his staff minimun wage was a ‘real Socialist’ ....Hitler who overthrew the capitalist classes and sized power as Marx recommended was not a Socialist .......interesting .....
Hitler invented his own form of extreme far right fascism (essentially state capitalism, since that is what the Nazi regime was) and called it National Socialism.
If I invent a game where we punch each other in the face until one of us falls over and I call that game "aggressive football", is it football?
“We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
1) Jews are not a race. There is no historical or scientific evidence to suggest that Jews are a race. The assertion that Jews are a race is a religious belief. It is a claim made in the Christian Bible and the Jewish Torah.
2) If Jews are a race then Marx was Jewish. His mother was Jewish.
Afraid Science and History is against your there Holocaust denier ......
For populations of the Jewish diaspora, the genetic composition of Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jewish populations show significant amounts of shared Middle Eastern ancestry. According to Behar and colleagues (2010), this is "consistent with a historical formulation of the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelites of the Levant" and "the dispersion of the people of ancient Israel throughout the Old World".
Afraid Science and History is against your there Holocaust denier
On the contrary, in keeping with every single claim you ever make, this is the exact opposite of true:-
The Invention of the Jewish People is a study of the historiography of the Jewish people by Shlomo Sand, Professor of History at Tel Aviv University.
Sand began his work by looking for research studies about forcible exile of Jews from the area now bordered by modern Israel, and its surrounding regions. He was astonished that he could find no such literature, he says, given that the expulsion of Jews from the region is viewed as a constitutive event in Jewish history. The conclusion he came to from his subsequent investigation is that the expulsion simply did not happen, that no one exiled the Jewish people from the region, and that the Jewish diaspora is essentially a modern invention. He accounts for the appearance of millions of Jews around the Mediterranean and elsewhere as something that came about primarily through the religious conversion of local people, saying that Judaism, contrary to popular opinion, was very much a "converting religion" in former times. He holds that mass conversions were first brought about by the Hasmoneans under the influence of Hellenism, and continued until Christianity rose to dominance in the fourth century CE.[18]
Afraid Science and History is against your there Holocaust denier ......
For populations of the Jewish diaspora, the genetic composition of Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jewish populations show significant amounts of shared Middle Eastern ancestry. According to Behar and colleagues (2010), this is "consistent with a historical formulation of the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelites of the Levant" and "the dispersion of the people of ancient Israel throughout the Old World".
Just as Nom is irrationally prepossessed with Bronto it would appear that whatever the depth of his psychosis may be or the state of his declared morality, he sure has you caught up in the tangled web of his runaway insanity.
I feel it would be best if the regular members of this site abandoned the false premise of debating and concentrated exclusively on calling each other nasty names just like a bunch of kids from junior school.
I don’t nor ever have backed down to bullies this viper has never even attempted debate , Andy last year promised he would rid the site of scum like this creature but backed down.
When I first joined here there were some terrific debaters and the site was regarded as a very good site for such . People like this scum bag deserved to be called out on their BS pity it cannot be face to face as the matter would be settled in 10 seconds with Burrito waking up with a crowd around him
Well, that's fine, continue to give him a good thrashing.
Whilst he is a thicko of the 1st order, he has a lot of animal cunning and is a past master at introducing 'red herrings/straw-man arguments' into any discussion and has his opponent defensively contesting a subject of his choice that usually has nothing to do with the original thread.
Well, that's fine, continue to give him a good thrashing.
You know the old saying “ if you put your hand out it’s going to be slapped”
He is incredibly thick one would think being a long term unemployed’ Socialist ‘ he might profit from attempting to get an elementary education but I guess that would eat into his sleep time and looting activities
Let me know if you ever see him attempt to debate without him going into a rage , it of course would be a notable first
You know the old saying “ if you put your hand out it’s going to be slapped”
Do you know the old saying, "I'm insane so I use my own alt accounts as tools to perform unprovoked group attacks against anybody I believe isn't digging my Nazi politics"?