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It is moral to exact revenge It is immoral to exact revenge
Debate Score:16
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 It is moral to exact revenge (7)
 
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The Morality of Revenge

This is a debate designed for a classroom to explore the views of those around the world as well as expressing their own views on morality within the sphere of vengeance. In many texts, especially those based on tragedy, we see revenge exacted. This constantly questions the reader on whether or not it is moral to exact revenge. My class would like to discuss this idea as well as hearing the ideas of others? Please keep the language clean as students will be reading and responding to this. 

It is moral to exact revenge

Side Score: 12
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It is immoral to exact revenge

Side Score: 4

Revenge is not only justified but is essential. As '' Bomber Harris'' stated whilst the R.A.F, and the U.S.A.A.F, were bombing the major cities of Germany, you have sown the wind, now you are reaping the whirlwind. If an aggressive act, of whatever description is left unpunished then the aggressor will invariably repeat the offence, usually with greater intensity that before. It would be highly immoral and cowardly to permit acts of aggression left unpunished.

Side: It is moral to exact revenge
2 points

I'll add an argument for both sides. When one looks deeper, one can see that the fact we even "want" to exact revenge in the first place indicates we humans have sense of "justice". If I was wronged, something should be done to correct/balance the wrongdoing (ie, punishment/compensation). If we were not moral, we wouldn't care about revenge. If you look at most animals, they do not exhibit revenge/vengeance. They are almost robot-like in how they treat a wrongdoing to them. They just walk away and continue on life as if nothing happened lol.

But to humans, we have a sense of morality, right and wrong, good and evil. And when someone brings us pain, we feel the need to return the favor because it only seems fair or just to balance the transaction.

Likewise, when someone does something nice for you, you feel obligated to return the favor. That's why the technique of those blind panhandlers that give you a free gift on the subway or bus, and then come back 1 minute later to collect a donation from you, almost always get a donation back. If you don't, you feel ashamed that someone gave you a gift and you were cheap not to return a kindness back. It's the human need to be consistent because we have morality or a sense of justice.

Side: It is moral to exact revenge

I think it teaches the other side a lesson. If they engage in unacceptable, harmful behavior towards others, there are consequences. The problem is, what is considered an offense worthy of pay back? It can be very subjective. There is legal revenge, ie, the court system and there is frontier justice- hang em high. Some people are petty and take offense at the slightest things, others would probably let the same things roll off their shoulders. The call is yours.

Side: It is moral to exact revenge
1 point

1) Revenge is an example where using the label "revenge" brings condemnation but performing the action of revenge itself under a different label is accepted or applauded. An eye for an eye is ugly revenge and rejected. But a punitive fine by the government is acceptable. A discipline of a misbehaving child by a parent is just a corrective action. A spouse sleeping around after their own spouse cheated is just an open marriage. A baseball team making a bad trade to get rid of a troublesome player is just conducting business.

2) Morality arguments usually have their basis in religion and the Judeo Christian branch of religions generally threaten eternal revenge on your soul (hell) unless you comply and say the right things now while you're living. It's hypocritical.

3) During wars, one or even both sides conduct many examples of revenge on the other side. And Christian philosophers even have a Just Theory of War where given circumstances can lead up to going to war and still being righteous.

4) Even going back to the traditional eye for an eye argument - if your attempt to take someone's eye out is related to self defense, meaning they just half blinded you and now you're doing the same to them to try to survive the attack, then most people would grant you're allowed to defend yourself. You can even perform eye for an eye and have morality on your side.

5) Finally, when society imposes punishments on criminals it's partly to demonstrate consequences to those who also may consider committing crimes. Deterrence. And whether or not you believe deterrence works, from an ethical standpoint it is a legitimate rationale for thinking some form of revenge is justified.

Side: It is moral to exact revenge

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Side: It is moral to exact revenge
1 point

There are definitely two sides to this debate, and both have their merits. "Let the punishment fit the crime" is definitely a legitimate statement to consider here. The tragedy of 9/11 REQUIRED revenge, it would have been immoral to "turn THAT other cheek"! Too bad the "revenge" cost 3 times as many (American) lives as the act, but, that's stupidity for you. In many cases revenge is NOT immoral, overdoing it is. That is exactly why I want to continue Obama's direction on the result of that screwed up revenge. Let others do it for U.S., and themselves. Trumps "scorched Earth" policies would cost the lives of MORE Americans, and innocents! Let's get our revenge, but not be stupid AGAIN!

Side: It is moral to exact revenge

revenge is mine!

sayeth the Lord.

for you and me, it depends. it may or may not be justified. if it is in accordance to God's Will than it is OK and not a sin. for example, I was just imprisoned like the early martyrs of the gospels, just for doing God's will. that's why every day in jail was fine and I was actually smiling the whole time!!! those who mocked me got a harsh lesson. you might call that revenge but it wasn't since they were mocking God when they mocked me since i am His Warrior.

I read the bible every day in jail for 83 days. I followed the "read bible in one year" plan in the back but since I read more than they suggested each day i managed to read it all twice during my time. it changed my theology somewhat, and I now know more of it is true than I thought before. i am looking forward to talking about theology and the bible here on cd.

Side: It is moral to exact revenge
2 points

The immorality/morality of revenge would no doubt have to be determined depending on the events. I believe there's two types of revenge that one could achieve, partial revenge and absolute revenge. (I'm not sure if there's an actual term for these and I'm far too lazy to google it)

An example of absolute revenge could be: That man killed my son, so I killed his son. (More so an eye for an eye situation)

An example of partial revenge could be: OJ Simpson losing his civil court case and having to pay 25,000,000$ in damages.

While most would like to enact absolute revenge, I feel as though it would leave one with a lacking feeling and in my opinion, taking the higher ground, and proving yourself to be the better person is often more afflicting to the character of the instigator than enacting absolute revenge.

This is all purely philosophical and I have absolutely zero evidence to back my claim.

Side: It is immoral to exact revenge
1 point

Simply, two wrongs don't make a right. If someone wronged you by doing something illegal to/against you, while our emotional selves tell us it's 100% justified to commit a crime back, it's still immoral.

It's harder said than done, but if someone killed your dog, you'd want to kill their dog in return....but it's wrong...doesn't mean I still wouldn't do it, but it's definitely wrong to kill.

I can see special circumstances or cases where it would be completely moral but then the question is, whose standard of morality are we using?

Side: It is immoral to exact revenge
1 point

If we look at the dictionary one of the meaning of moral that in and of itself illustrate what good moral character should be.

Moral:

holding or manifesting high principles for proper conduct:

If we accept the Judeo-Christian perspective of morals then it is clear their faith says that vengeance should take a backseat to morality.

Matthew 5:44

English Standard Version

But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

One of the hardest things in life to do is being moral simply because we have created a world that seems to focus and worships the self.

Side: It is immoral to exact revenge