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I Admit It Deny Everything
Debate Score:25
Arguments:19
Total Votes:28
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The Notion That People Are (Or Ever Can Be) Free Under Capitalism Is Ludicrous

It's just absolutely absurd. People are imprisoned by the economy. By the very system itself.

Most of us are forced into menial labour (while the few who escape this fate are used as propaganda to persuade the rest) which means contributing to the actual problem, even if only as someone willing to turn a blind eye to it.

Want to exist? Try doing it without co-operating with a bank.

You are forced to live a certain life by the pressure the system puts on you to that effect.

Unless you want to be the guy living in a tent out in the woods you are never going to free. That's the reality of capitalism for 99 percent of people.

 

I Admit It

Side Score: 10
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Deny Everything

Side Score: 15
1 point

I feel that maybe, just maybe, there could be some merit in your assertion.

Before however I make a definite decision on your rabble rousing attestation I would like you to address the following;-

1) Define freedom.

2) With what globally viable economic/commercial system would replace capitalism to ensure that all the citizens of the world would enjoy your interpretation of freedom?.

If and when you answer the above points to my total satisfaction I will become a convert to your new world order.

Remember old bean, your alternative structure for equality of opportunity and EQUALITY OF OUTCOME must be fully explained with every detail considered and how you intend to iron out the intrinsic problems which the introduction of any new radical system will inevitably harbour.

Any fool can bellache about the flaws in the prevailing global system of economic and commerce strategy but it takes a very clever man to explain his plans for replacing the old order*.

Side: I Admit It
2 points

The Notion That People Are (Or Ever Can Be) Free Under Capitalism Is Ludicrous

So we give a more corrupt, greedier group of people with a military everything, and abracadabra. God you're a naive idiot with the mind of a 6 year old.

Side: Deny Everything
1 point

ROTFFLMMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The IDIOT typed this - The Notion That People Are (Or Ever Can Be) Free Under Capitalism Is Ludicrous

STUPID have you talked with Bill Gates , Jeff Bezos , Tom Steyer , Jeff Zucker and Barack O'Bozo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Deny Everything
Nom_Chomsky(846) Disputed
2 points

STUPID have you talked with Bill Gates , Jeff Bezos , Tom Steyer , Jeff Zucker and Barack O'Bozo !

I'm referring to people generally you moron. There are 7.5 billion other names on the planet you capitalists always tend to exclude while you're promoting your silly pyramid scheme.

Granted, the people named are free (in the economic sense), but it is precisely the existence of those people which prevents others from having the same level of success. When resources are finite, there are obviously only so many pockets they can go into.

Side: I Admit It
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Avram are you avoiding that LEFTIST profit from CAPITALISM ??????????

Side: Deny Everything
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

DUMMY have you missed this ?????????????? LMMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

According to Forbes, Queen Elizabeth II had an estimated net worth of $530 million as of 2016. Forbes also reports the British monarchy "contributes nearly £1.8 billion to the UK economy" annually, including £550 million in tourism.May 6, 2019

Side: Deny Everything
1 point

LIMEY did i read this right ??????????????

United Kingdom (UK): Largest export commodities 2018

This ranges from machinery and material manufactures, chemicals, fuels, food and crude materials. Fuel was the most valuable commodity with exports being worth 165.7 million British pounds.

So you LIMEY'S do not depend on CAPITALISM ????????????????????????

Side: Deny Everything
1 point

Capitalism is a PROBLEM for you LIMEY'S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFFLMMFAO !!!!!!!

LIMEY you are IGNORANT but if don't like the UK then move to VENEZUELA or CUBA where you would feel more comfortable !

The following export product groups represent the highest dollar value in UK global shipments during 2018. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of overall exports from United Kingdom.

Machinery including computers: US$72.5 billion (15% of total exports)

Vehicles: $55.4 billion (11.4%)

Gems, precious metals: $47.5 billion (9.8%)

Mineral fuels including oil: $45.1 billion (9.3%)

Pharmaceuticals: $30.1 billion (6.2%)

Electrical machinery, equipment: $29.4 billion (6.1%)

Aircraft, spacecraft: $19.7 billion (4.1%)

Optical, technical, medical apparatus: $19.2 billion (4%)

Plastics, plastic articles: $12.8 billion (2.6%)

Organic chemicals: $12.4 billion (2.6%)

Side: Deny Everything
1 point

Capitalism must be failing with UK pubs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since 2000, the number of pubs in the UK has fallen by 17%, or 10,500 pubs, according to the British Beer & Pub Association (BBPA).Mar 27, 2018

What the problem is there LIMEY ???????????????

Side: Deny Everything
seanB(950) Disputed
1 point

The smoking ban; the increase in beer prices; the stagnation of wages; and the rise in business rental and rates. It means shrinking profit margins for pub owners.

Those are (other than the smoking ban), problems caused by capitalism. It is cheaper to buy a six pack and drink at home.

Side: I Admit It