Will you follow the rules?
With you 100%.
No one can now plead ignorance about the type of behaviour which was destroying the site.
I have two other accounts but do not know how to delete them.
All I can do is log out and hope that will suffice.
Good luck with the site and thanks for providing the facility.
Thank you for trying to clean up this site, and thank you for trying to keep it open even at a cost to you. When I first came on it was actually a pretty fantastic place and I hope it can become one again. Have you thought about having moderators to help remove the debates where it is an obvious personal attack against someone?
Andy, you are just unbelievable. You will never clean this site up because you don't understand who is making it dirty. The only people you have left here are the trolls and bullies who have somehow managed to con you into believing they are victims.
Just see, for example, Antrim's implication that he is an honest debater who welcomes such rules. Then cross reference that with these comments:-
As clear as water is wet, Antrim is the dictionary definition of a troll.
Indeed, see the very top comment for a typical example of MathFan's relentless attacks. This is a person who, for the last three months, has been quite literally unable to see one of my comments without attacking me. In fact, I challenge you to actually find a single thread created by me in the last month in which I am not either insulted or provoked at least once by this vicious and thoroughly lamentable human cockroach. You will struggle. And, if you do find any, then it is only because I probably had the foresight to remember to ban him.
MathFan has quite literally scoured my entire posting history looking for things he can distort and take out of context, such is his dedication to trolling me.
Finally, consider Dermot, who is unequivocally the most overtly offensive member on the entire site. At least xMathFanx and Antrim occasionally make some effort to hide their malicious intent, whereas Dermot makes precisely none.
I said it yesterday and I'll say it again today. You are an idiot. Either that, or you have a genuine soft spot for lying racist bastards. You had absolutely no reason to single me out for a ban other than perhaps because you disagree with me ideologically.
Whatever the case, and I mean this sincerely, fuck you and the haven you have created for nasty neo-Nazi scumbags.
Andy knows this is yet another of your accounts Nom / Q / Rusticus etc, etc ,
You’re banned off every debating forum online except this for trolling ,
Here you are in action spewing your hate .......
Rusticus(877) 1 point
Checking back and see that as I already knew there would be no IP address which of course (as many very well knew) proves that you are a liar.
You're a sick little pathological lying Nazi.
You're a disgrace.
You were not “ singled out “ you hang yourself every time like on this thread where you support your “ position “ with your multiple accounts and no doubt will downvote every one who disagrees with you , giving more proof of how devious you truly are
Thanks for the support Dermot, it hasn't gone unnoticed.
It beggars belief that those who are responsible for the haranguing and personal insults are continuing to do so and they don't even realise it.
I CAN SEE HIM/THEM JUMPING UP AND DOWN IN THEIR CHAIR(S) SEETHING AT THE RESULTS OF THEIR OWN CHILDISHNESS.
@ krugenford - I'm with you for the most part. I can't understand how the worst trolls on this site have managed
to convince Andy that they're the victims. It's a very sad situation.
If Antrim's hate speech and the insanity of his henchmen is going to be allowed to continue I can't stay.
I wonder if Andy really understands what a troll is and doesn't recognize them for what they are. They've continually
provoked, poked, needled and jabed (TROLLED) in order to get the response they need in order to allow them to play
Andy, you've been played. If you haven't done so already, please take a look at Antrim's waterfall. You won't have to look far to find one racist tirade after another. Is that to be allowed? Will swastikas and confederate battle flag avatars be allowed?
If they are, this site will eventually be full of proudly out in the open neo-nazi's.
I'd really like an answer and if the answer is 'Yes' - I'm gone.
A lot of the comments for this post are personal attacks, puppet accounts and trolls.
Are you going to be implementing any changes to the coding of the site to deal with the trolls, or do you plan on doing it all manually, because doing it manually seems like an impossible task, as is evident by the comments in this thread. Also, is the underline bug ever going to be fixed? If you send me the code you use for the underline feature, I can fix it for you.
See you never, once again the main argument I’ve made for free speech is that not everyone has grown up in the same environment with the same influences, it’s not for anyone to make up rules for language, because the English language is a constantly evolving entity. Some say that the flexibility that is inherent in English and it’s tendency to adapt other languages words and phrases, makes it one of the most useful and pervasive languages ever. As soon as someone makes a determination as to what is, and what isn’t acceptable, it becomes impossible for some, possibly unprivileged persons to be disregarded. The real reason Christian countries still have such disorder and chaos is because of the disconnect from a childlike reality, once people have broken a law that is suspect of divine punishment, their subconscious causes a predictable reaction, disconnection.
Thank you. I will do my best to be a good citizen playing by the rules. I think the hardest part for me will be the no personal attacks clause but only because some of us have so much history in our clashes it’s hard to not reference that. If someone smears me as a progressive and I reply that they’re a gun nut, or holy roller, or conservative lap dog, does that count as a personal attack?
In keeping with my rejection to associate myself with the multiple account holders I refuse to respond to their continuing schoolboy goading, other than to reaffirm my commitment to adhere to the new rules.
My advice to all is to take heed that the site has an improved and modified format and to cooperate by adapting to the new
There are certain member who feel like I singled them out.
Yes , that is always the case in these situations
Clearly by their reaction I must have been right...but I am willing to have all come back.
The new rules are great and not hard to abide by so hopefully it all works out .... Good stuff Andy 👌
I know it is disappointing (and onerous) to do this, but I appreciate your efforts and willingness to work for the advancement of the free exchange of ideas. I am sure we agree that it would be nicer if people's commitment to good manners were enough without the rules.
I also am grateful that you pay the expense in support of free speech.
Andy I am trying your site out for my students but my students are complaining about personal attacks on them. I teach a argumentation and debate class and was hoping to give them some practice. I hope the standards of this site can be followed other wise I will look for a different site. Thanks.
Dear spchtchr, The membership here can be over zealous at times. I have asked them to stay off of debates that are clearly education based debates. I think the best opportunity for you would be to create you own public community. It is free of charge and while anyone can join, most people don't look at the other communities. Here is a link to setup your own. It takes less than one minute. Then you can post your debates safely there. If any of our members join, you (or I) can ban them from your community.
Under education select get started and on the next screen choose the free option.
Then provide your students with the link to your very own community and let them debate!
Let me know if you have any questions via the messaging system.
You are a ing joke for not enforcing the rules. You ban me for standing up to Atrag, do nothing about rampant eugenics and rape culture, and everyone kisses your so the can bully each other into an ip ban. You could prove me wrong, but I wont hold my breath. I will be on debate.org the * away from you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!