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The United States has lost its war prestige

After the war against Japan it seems like the wars we enter usually dont solve much. The Korean War is still heated and going on. We may have lost the Vietnam War and it seems like the war in Iraq hasnt done much for thepeople. Has the United States lost that prestigious title of the "stongest nation"?

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Firstly there is no prestige in war. War is shameless, mutual destruction, and there is no respect or prestige in that. As for the US' previous conduct in war, there is not much respect to be mustered there either.

In the past the US has consistently sunk to the standards of our enemies, employing total war against civilian populations and utilizing mass and chemical weapons, the effects of which are still being felt to this day. I don't know whether this is an indictment against the slippery slope that is war, or against the overall moral depravity the US has shown in it's conduct of foreign affairs, either way both are seriously lacking prestige.

Places where US victory has been contested, places like Vietnam, and Iraq, there is no doubt that those were all lost wars because the conditions of victory for them were simply unattainable. There would have been literally no way for the US to extinguish the Vietcong or popular Vietnamesse independence groups entirely. And we couldn't retaliate against a force (Iraq) that had never attacked us (9/11). Nor could we have found and dismantled WMD's where there were none.

Let's be clear though. The US was and always has been the military victor. The US would sooner bring the whole world down with it than be dethroned as the major military might. We may have lost in Vietnam but the real losers were the Vietnames people whose population we devastated with our far superior tactics, technology and numbers. Like so many others before have said there are no real victors in war, only losers.

Side: Agree

when america enters war you usaully has to do with freedom our current wars are nation building those can`t be couinted as wars we won them in a few years but when we commit all out war other countries are Fd

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The US has continued to be an active military force. Typically when you just just don't hear the successful events because those are not newsworthy any more.

Side: Disagree
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Military Strength is measured by the ability to win wars not change nations so no.

Side: Disagree

But people are saying that these wars haveny really been won. What about that factor if I may ask?

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warrior(1854) Disputed
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Vietnam we lost sure ill give you that no nation in history has ever won all its wars but in Iraq and Afghanistan we achieved all military goals. Nation building not so much but our solders are fighting men not nation builders and merical workers. The fact remains our military is still the finest ass kicking machine the world has ever seen.

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Those situations were kinda sticky. We are still a major military power and I think our title just got a little dusty. No biggie.

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we'll fuck over anyone anytime

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