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Be proud of democratic freedom Spurn socialist enslavement.
Debate Score:48
Arguments:44
Total Votes:68
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The Western Nations need to reinvent themselves and regain their self-respect.

Why is it, in the west acceptable to publicly wear a Maoist tee-shirt but, for instance, unacceptable, if not downright dangerous to wear a Donald Trump hat?
Mao Zedong's 'Great Leap Forward' which lasted from 1958 to 1962 cost the lives of 45 million Chinese people.
Mao was the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century, including Hitler and Stalin, yet the liberal lefties stomp through our towns and cities proudly emblazoned in their mass murderer Maoist tee shirts with complete immunity.
Wear a pro President Trump illustrated garment in public in America and you'll probably be refused service in many establishments at best, or beaten up by the lonny leftist thugs. 
There is something terribly wrong with the way western society has been let drift.

Be proud of democratic freedom

Side Score: 26
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Spurn socialist enslavement.

Side Score: 22

Be proud of democratic freedom

Democracy is grounded in the premise that you won't lie or misrepresent the facts in order to con people into subscribing to your brutal ideology.

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
Saltal(196) Disputed
1 point

As an argument that leftist claptrap went out with Nelson's eye.

Go to your nearest outpost and buy yourself one of them thar newfangled player apps, your old vinyl record is all played out.

Side: Spurn socialist enslavement.
2 points

Be Proud of democratic freedom.

Protesting and fighting against those who support a totalitarian regime …. to regain their self respect … is what those anti-Trump people are doing! A Trump hat may be a "Freedom of Speech" item …. as was a swastika in Germany! We don't need to "reinvent the U.S." we need to SAVE it from the white supremacists who call themselves "conservatives" today! There is nothing "conservative" about them …. other than being conservative with things that protect "the people", "the Earth", fresh water and air and the "freedom of speech" against what our relatives fled Europe to get away from! CONTROL … by the CHURCH and the "KING"! Our "SELF RESPECT" is showing, around the world as CONSIDERABLY LESS than it was 4 years ago! The "Brown Shirts" were defeated, the "Red Hats" NEED to be … to "regain our self respect"! :-)

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
Saltal(196) Disputed
1 point

Hi Alf, I'm advocating freedom of political, religious and gender expression for everyone.

Whether you or I, or anyone else likes it Donald Trump was voted into office by America's democratic process.

Democracy must be respected and PRESIDENT Trump should be extended the regard his office requires.

The lefties have rejected democracy through their violent opposition to anyone demonstratively supporting the duly elected President and savagely attack any individual or group that expresses their right wing political ideology.

This behaviour is significantly more akin to the Nazi tactics of silencing political opposition than anything carried out by the supporters of Donald Trump.

Pay some attention to what's happening in Hong Kong and the Xinjiang re-education camps!!!, or brain washing facilities to you and I.

Side: Spurn socialist enslavement.
1 point

Donald Trump was elected to office by the manipulation of districts with the intent of controlling the Electoral College, NOT really, the democratic process. He was soundly REJECTED BY 3,000,000 American voters, over and above those who voted FOR "it"! IF the U.S. gets the chance to see that this doesn't happen again we can get back to that "democratic process".

I cannot "respect" a leader who masquerades AS a President and follows ONLY the democratic processes that suit HIM at any given moment! The brown shirts that symbolized radicals supporting Hitler are little different to the red hats that symbolize support for THIS would-be dictator who supports our biggest (at the moment) enemy OF "democratic process", Putin! (While denigrating any ally who cautions against, or rejects, his policies). I've lived under 13 Presidents and this one is the only one I didn't have SOME respect for. He's NOT brainwashing ME, nor is anyone else. All politicians MAKE mistakes, this one IS a mistake, respectfully speaking! ;-)

I can't respect this level of LIAR!

Side: Spurn socialist enslavement.
1 point

For too long the loony leftists have been permitted to promote their doctrine of hate and anarchy without any serious challenge.

They deny freedom of expression of any political belief which is incompatible with their extreme left wing views with violent demonstrations and destruction of property.

The universities of the west have been appropriated by Marxist/Leninist/Maoist subversives who openly deny platform to any moderate proponent of right wing political ideology.

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
Kodiak(30) Disputed
2 points

You are saying the far left shouldn't be allowed to even express their views, while whining that the left won't let you express your views. That's pretty stupid.

Side: Spurn socialist enslavement.
Saltal(196) Disputed
0 points

Total nonsense.

Only the twisted mind of a regular loony leftist could feign such an interpretation from my clear message of ''freedom of political expression for all'' and expect to get away with it.

The thrust of my thread is clearly that everyone should have the freedom and access to the means to publicly express their political views.

The loony lefties 'deny platform' to all political leanings which do not further their own outdated and redundant ideology.

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
1 point

As much as I am NOT a Trump supporter, I disagree with people being attacked simply because they wear a Trump hat. They have every right to express themselves and have their own political opinion and the fact that people would resort to violence because someone else is wearing something to support...what is admittedly a very polarizing President.... is not in the spirit of what this country should be.

That being said, someone wearing the swastika...well, I think I'm more inclined to worry that the fanaticism of people may act violently before checking to see if someone is wearing it as a symbol of white power or if someone is wearing it as a religious icon created before it was bastardized by the Nazi's.

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
BurritoLunch(2386) Clarified
1 point

or if someone is wearing it as a religious icon created before it was bastardized by the Nazi's.

What do you suppose the chances of that are?

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
Mint_tea(4136) Clarified
1 point

Highly likely the chances are slim. However there have been talks of people trying to reclaim that symbol for what it was meant for. My worry would be people wearing it as a way to do so and others not taking the time to make sure.

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Chinaman(1972) Clarified
1 point

You dumb ass Democrat tell me all about the Swastikas being worn by Republicans.

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
1 point

Oh so you're admitting swastikas are being worn by Republicans? And here I thought they were worn by white supremacists only.

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
0 points

The methed out, depraved radicals of the left have been doing their level best to silence anyone promoting sanity, freedom and meritocracy and I think it is time they had a taste of their own medicine. It is in no way contrary to freedom of speech to de-platform the act of de-platforming itself, or to silence the voice that screeches incessantly over everyone else's just to drown out opinions it doesn't want to hear.

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
3 points

The methed out, depraved radicals of the left have been doing their level best to silence anyone promoting sanity, freedom and meritocracy

As per usual, whatever the truth happens to be, you turn it upside down and then try to sell it back to the public. It is just so far beyond laughable that you would try to convince anybody the far right is about "freedom". Why don't you try telling that to the Auschwitz survivors you thoroughly corrupt little establishment toad?

Side: Spurn socialist enslavement.
Decade(24) Disputed
1 point

What do Auschwitz survivors who were almost murdered by socialists have to do with the libertarian right being authoritarian?

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
1 point

The great evil of extreme left wing socialism needs to be confronted and exposed for the 5th columnists they are and the high risk they pose to the freedoms of our democratic way of life.

These left wing subversives started infesting our universities as far back as the 1960s and have now achieved total dominance over the political affiliations of their lecturers and the content of their tutorials.

Time to get organized and start the long fight to get our country back

Side: Spurn socialist enslavement.
2 points

The great evil of extreme left wing socialism needs to be confronted and exposed for the 5th columnists they are and the high risk they pose to the freedoms of our democratic way of life.

Don't you ever shut up you boring, corrupt shill? Your corporate fascist ideology killed 70 million people and it was the "extreme left wing socialists" who stepped up and put a fucking end to you.

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
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Saltal(196) Clarified
1 point

One of the standard left wing tactics being demonstrated here with them denying you equal platform by down voting your opinion into oblivion with their army of alts.

This is a classic example of left wing intolerance and contrivance.

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
Kodiak(30) Disputed
0 points

denying you equal platform

You're saying this to a man who literally bans everyone who has ever disagreed with him in more than a mild way.

Side: Be proud of democratic freedom
FromWithin(8234) Clarified
-2 points