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The ambiguity of Liberal Atheists and sexual immorality
Immoral or not immoral?
-having sex with a donkey -having sex with your brother -having sex with your child -having sex with a balloon -having sex with your grandmother -having sex with a cat -having sex with someone of your own sex
When asked if having sex with your daughter was wrong, I had 3 atheists skate around the topic, unable to answer the question. 1 finally was worn down and simply said,"it is wrong" but then either couldn't or refused to answer why it was wrong.
Yeah but it was ok because God said so. The only reason morality even matters is because God says so. Without God there is no reason christians wouldn't rape monkeys and murder everyone they see.
I don't hate jews, jews have been gone from the world for hundreds of years. You are a caucasian with tiny traces of Hebrew blood who's ancestors raped and murdered Jews and got raped and murdered by them in turn. Do I need to explain again how the Hebrews traveled the middle east and europe mixing with different cultures until their bloodline became spread so thin that people calling themselves jews have very little jew in them if any?
I'm not a science denier, you just don't understand. I don't deny the DNA test, what I deny is that a modern jew is the same as a true Hebrew. You probably have more viking DNA then Hebrew DNA even though you are an ashkenazi jew, because ashkenazi jews are europeans with tiny traces of hebrew blood.
Oh come off it you incessant bag of wanks. The problem is that you don't understand what the word "jew" means. You are associating yourself with a religion that is associated with a tribe that is long extinct. Since judaism is the religion your ancestors chose to practice despite the fact that there are plenty others that could be associated with their ancestry your ethnic group is classified as "jew" but that is distinctly different from a Hebrew. A real Hebrew would have never heard of the Talmud and wouldn't consider a white person like you one of God's chosen people.
Holy Jesus fuck you really are mentally challenged. Look at your DNA test results, most of your DNA is from eastern europe yet you think you're a Hebrew Israelite and the Torah is talking about you when it says "God's chosen people". Modern Jews are not Hebrews and Hebrews where "God's chosen people." You are an eastern european white atheist, fuck face. The word "jew" is meaningless. Science is telling you that you are for the most part of eastern european decent. Ashkenazi jew refers to an ethnic group with mostly european DNA that was created due to europeans converting to judaism and marrying jews. By the time that ethnic group came into existence the actual Hebrew blood was spread so thin it became negligible. Ashkenazi Jews are europeans claiming a religious and ethnic identity that has nothing to do with 99.99% of their ancestry.
Last - sex with ANY HUMAN is not wrong as long as that human is OLD ENOUGH to consent and MENTALLY COMPETENT.
>>now, the age of consent is a GRAY AREA. Some say 18 some say 16, etc. I think the AGE DIFFERENCE is very important- I mean if 2 10 year olds have sex I don’t feel it’s a crime.
My philosophy on the subject is that if it's between informed and consenting adults of otherwise sound and sober mind, and no one else is getting hurt, then it's nobody else's business. This rules out bestiality, as animals cannot give consent. The one caveat I add to the argument of incest is that since it carries the risk of reproduction, and since the risk of the child being mentally or physically disabled is so high, all precautions must be taken to ensure that doesn't happen I.E. sterilization, whether voluntary or forced. Aside from that, whether or not I find the idea of screwing your brother/grandmother/other relative repulsive is irrelevant.
Donkey or cat: They can't consent, I'd say it's animal cruelty. Wrong.
Brother or grandmother: If consensual and so long as some messed up child isn't produced I don't see anything morally wrong with it. (Not hurting anyone) Pretty weird though. Not wrong.
Someone of same sex: Again, don't see anything wrong with it (not hurting anyone), so I say not wrong.
Balloon: Again, not hurting anyone, I say not wrong.
Child: If underage, can't consent, you could screw them up for life, so you're hurting them, it's wrong. If your child is an adult, same as brother/grandmother scenario.
Well, here is an atheist that won't skate around it (and you would find many more if you wished to!). All are morally wrong ... with the exception, maybe, of the balloon ;-)... ! I actually don't think you actually found 3 because it's so easy to find conservatives who lie ... like the one in the Waste House. Bad try.
The reason it is wrong is something that is called "common sense", backed up by science. Oh, and that thing about "same sex" ... I don't know of any science against that.
Penis vs vagina goes against that. What part of science are you referencing on screwing your barren daughter? Why is screwing your daughter with protection wrong, but doing your neighbor Jim up the butt right?
With that, you have totally walked away from that "common sense" thingy I mentioned. Not much can be done with that kind of mentality .... byeeeee. ( watch your butt .... and your neighbor Jim....)
I was smarter than you when I was five. I easily discern that a penis makes one male. You on the other hand are bewildered and confused by a penis. That's why you need 71 genders to make sense of it all...
Your personal perception of your own mental superiority does little more than explain why you are a Trump supporter. The fact that you ARE actually brings into question that "mental superiority". Enjoy your not-so-obvious mentality .... and your penis ...by yourself.
I only know of two genders but I know there are some creatures in this world considered "combined" male and female. Scientific evidence shows that some of this "combining" happens in humans. Some "humans" can't grasp this theory, mostly because they feel they have higher intelligence than those who study the theory daily, or just an "all-knowing" religious mantra that comes from ancient beliefs. I'm happy that you are a legend-in-your-own-mind and believe so strongly in your penis. Enjoy. ;-)
If you're a liberal, you don't understand gender, much less know how many there are. It's why most married people are Conservatives. They understand the whole penis and vagina thing.
Were any of your lovers animals or men? Democrats said in another thread that having sex with someone of puberty age, even if 12, and having sex with your mom or animals wasn't objectively wrong. So did you do it? Did you have sex with your kids or pets?
Your personal perception of your own mental superiority
I was playing piano at age 3 and was the Valedictorian of my highschool, which was in the biggest class. You on the otherhand were trying to figure out a way to marry your pets and get government perks from it.
does little more than explain why you are a Trump supporter.
Probably because the Democrat candidate you shitted out was a demon goblin.
No. I "on the other hand" are more into listening to scientists and doctors, most of whom were, likely, smarter than you when they were five. I've never felt "bewildered" by a penis OR a vagina. I admit I've been "confused" by a few "carriers" of a vagina, but, not of a penis …. present company excepted. YOU are both a bewildering AND confusing penis, and I can't make sense of THAT all!
By the way, what happened AFTER you was five … obviously something bewildering and confusing. Maybe you found your penis???:-)
According to science …. you know, that bunch of women and men that have, at least Doctorate Degrees and VERY likely WERE smarter than even YOU at 5, say a penis does NOT necessarily make you a man. I imagine YOUR super mentality is FAR ahead of those, because, like the old alchemists, you get your unquestionable knowledge out of ancient manuscripts …. put together by … who knows??
I can't argue about how intelligent you were at 5. But, what happened AFTER 5? Obviously something "bewildering and confusing" …. maybe you found your penis??? How about a vagina? have you ever met, intellectually, with one?? Now, THERE'S something that confuses MANY men. But then, some of us handle them well. WE don't get confused and bewildered like, apparently, YOU did after 5, because your intellectual capability seems to have stopped at 5, and you can't make sense of it all...……….. a shame.
you know, that bunch of women and men that have, at least Doctorate Degrees and VERY likely WERE smarter than even YOU at 5, say a penis does NOT necessarily make you a man.
So provide me a scientific article that is peer reviewed.
I imagine YOUR super mentality is FAR ahead of those, because, like the old alchemists, you get your unquestionable knowledge out of ancient manuscripts …. put together by … who knows??
Come on Al. We need an answer on this one. Why is it fine for a man to have sex with a man but not fine to have sex with your daughter while using protection?
Several men are having sex with my daughters …. with my blessing. My youngest is 47. Since they were 21 it has been entirely up to them who they had sex with. Actually, even earlier than that because they were taking care of themselves before then.
When men have consensual sex with each other I don't give a damn! It's NONE of my business. Personally, I never tried it, I liked my women too much, but, to each his own as far as I am concerned. I REALLY don't see what others do in bed is any of YOURS, as long as it's consensual.
What is wrong is having someone with your sick mind on the internet. They all have different husbands, and, if you haven't noticed, even the Bible allows them to have sex …. and with my blessing. After all, they've "blessed me" with several grandsons …. all of which seem FAR more intelligent than you … even at 5 yrs.
Okay. So having sex with your daughter is obviously "sick", but being a man and having sex with a man is not sick, despite the only way to have sex being up the butt. And brontoraptor is sick for pointing out the "sickness".
THE ANSWER IS … to quote a now deceased (mostly conservative) journalist, it IS fine for a man to have sex with my daughter IF he is married to her, OR, if she is of age and consensual. HER business, not YOURS. With a MAN, HIS business, not yours! With BOTH, protection is optional! I hope THAT is the answer you need. I would expect any 5 year old to understand that. Again, I will make an exception with present company since there seems to be a problem with understanding the English language after grade 5. :-(
No. The question is if you screwed your daughter, would it be wrong? You can't answer because one, you think saying no will make you look bad, and two, you know that if you say it's wrong, the same logic of wrongness applies to homosexuality.
